Be glad that Dak has to stay on edge

cern · Jul 19, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
I'm sorry maybe we just don't see the same thing when we watch games but Moore looked exactly like what it was, the NFL game was way to fast for him and it showed with his interceptions. Making quick decisions to fire a pass doesn't make it the right decision, when you throw 6 int's in 2.5 games that's not a good trend. For real you cant be serious

Kellen simply lacked the arm strength for yhe nfl game.

Kaiser · Jul 19, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
So what would YOU have said if you wanted the job. Any job?

McCarthy had his pick of any job he wanted. When he came to Dallas to interview the Giants were begging him to come back for a second interview.

Hadenough · Jul 19, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
Again i agree there needs to be accountability across the board every year, so what does Dak getting better this year look like to you? I'm pretty sure his completion % was among the tops.... i'm not saying he is perfect but you guys hold on to a small percent of bad throws and use to dig subway tunnels in every thread. so in other words in your opinion how much higher does his completion % need to be than the next guy in the league for you to say man that's an accurate QB?

That's a good question. When you look at Dak the stats aren't as important as what he shows on the field. We know he can throttle bad teams but it's his consistency that worries me. He is not performing as well as he should against the better teams. I really thought he face planted against the Bills and Chicago after a scripted opening drive to start strong. After that nothing worked for 2.5 quarters. Yes he will have some bad games but the sign of a truly good player is finding a way to win when your not playing your best.

CowboyFrog · Jul 19, 2020

Hadenough said:
That's a good question. When you look at Dak the stats aren't as important as what he shows on the field. We know he can throttle bad teams but it's his consistency that worries me. He is not performing as well as he should against the better teams. I really thought he face planted against the Bills and Chicago after a scripted opening drive to start strong. After that nothing worked for 2.5 quarters. Yes he will have some bad games but the sign of a truly good player is finding a way to win when your not playing your best.

But when you look at the league QB rating against those good teams isn't he among the tops? if we go of winning of course the obvious answer is those teams are WINNING TEAMS because they are beating the other teams they play. I'm not trying to excuse Dak in those games as much as I'm saying our team unperformed on a whole based upon what the talent said, Dak isn't absolved of this either, I do believe out of all the players on the team he is one of my least concerns to be better with better coaching. Our receivers and our linebackers completely disappeared against good teams last year and that should be watched closely this year.

CowboyFrog · Jul 19, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
But when you look at the league QB rating against those good teams isn't he among the tops? if we go of winning of course the obvious answer is those teams are WINNING TEAMS because they are beating the other teams they play. I'm not trying to excuse Dak in those games as much as I'm saying our team unperformed on a whole based upon what the talent said, Dak isn't absolved of this either, I do believe out of all the players on the team he is one of my least concerns to be better with better coaching. Our receivers and our linebackers completely disappeared against good teams last year and that should be watched closely this year.

I also don't know how to measure how bad it is 90% of this team seemed to un engage on the coaches halfway through the season, i'm still saying no matter who's fault that is as a GM you need to fire Garrett much earlier in the season and get those players attention because it was shameful to watch them be disinterested in games....that's on the players and their heart no matter how much Garrett is at fault.

Ranched · Jul 19, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
Correct Moore was always a coach on the field smart football guy and that showed once he was allowed to call plays...problem is he made Garrett look bad and ole red couldn't have that.

What happened at the Egals game in Philly when the division/playoffs were on the line & Moore decided to SIT our two star WR's on 4th & goal. Don't even get me started on that guy. The list is endless of misleading calls.

CowboyFrog · Jul 19, 2020

daboyzruleperiod said:
What happened at the Egals game in Philly when the division/playoffs were on the line & Moore decided to SIT our two star WR's on 4th & goal. Don't even get me started on that guy. The list is endless of misleading calls.

I will agree as long as it was him who made that call, again the coaching as a whole was so bad last season it got in the players heads i believe. You will get your chance on judging Moore's play calling this season as the head coach is much better i believe, he has the players lets see the results.

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jul 19, 2020

PJTHEDOORS said:
So Dak has to play defense, special teams, take all the RB snaps instead of Zeke/Pollard, play WR, TE, block for himself on the OL, and coach too? What are the other players and coaches getting paid for? Teams win SB's.

You missed the point. BYE!

Whirlwin · Jul 19, 2020

leeblair said:
This really isn't a Dak thread. It's more about the Cowboys finally getting set up right.
It wasn't fair to McCarthy to be saddled with a quarterback longterm that would be impossible to put on the bench if he wasn't cutting it.

You don’t think head coaches understand diversity. Changes. Please stop it

leeblair · Jul 19, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
I'm sorry maybe we just don't see the same thing when we watch games but Moore looked exactly like what it was, the NFL game was way to fast for him and it showed with his interceptions. Making quick decisions to fire a pass doesn't make it the right decision, when you throw 6 int's in 2.5 games that's not a good trend. For real you cant be serious

You have to remember that he was just in his first NFL game ever, and the Cowboys were playing for a draft pick by the time he came in. But the coaches even noticed that the players were more ready to play when he started taking over.
They blew it with Moore. He's the real deal. He'll be a great coach, but he could've had a great career as the Cowboys quarterback, first.

Hadenough · Jul 19, 2020

CowboyFrog said:
But when you look at the league QB rating against those good teams isn't he among the tops? if we go of winning of course the obvious answer is those teams are WINNING TEAMS because they are beating the other teams they play. I'm not trying to excuse Dak in those games as much as I'm saying our team unperformed on a whole based upon what the talent said, Dak isn't absolved of this either, I do believe out of all the players on the team he is one of my least concerns to be better with better coaching. Our receivers and our linebackers completely disappeared against good teams last year and that should be watched closely this year.

Yes the other players came up short too. But considering the kind of money he wants he needs to inspire the other players with his play. The saints and eagles game the defense showed up but the offense was MIA. There is just too much talent on the offense to be held to 0 TDs.

TheMarathonContinues · Jul 19, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
LOL......Dak a "perk". Look I like Dak...I am not a hater. But you actually think Dak was a crucial selling point? To Steal MM away from whatever he was up to before?

Good grief!

Look you can dislike the guy if you want but if you had the choice of Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield, Whoever was the qb for the Panthers and Haskins? It was clear Dak was the best or the bunch.

buybuydandavis · Jul 19, 2020

leeblair said:
With a one year deal, Dak cannot become set in his ways. He will be more receptive to Mike McCarthy's instructions, and will once again be in training- albeit, being paid very well to do so, under the tag.
His contract demands showed he believed that he had reached a pinnacle, and was at the top of the league as far as talent. But he wasn't.
Though he racked up huge numbers in the passing game, he was not able to give the Cowboys a boost against teams that they needed to beat to transcend to the next level.
Under Garrett, Dak was in danger of believing that what he had done was enough; he was coddled and never made to improve. His demands for a new contract show this clearly.
Now we actually have a new team. McCarthy isn't saddled with a guy he's never worked with that will eat up a huge chunk of the salary cap, and can run the team as he sees fit.
If Dak is the man, this year will bear that out. If not, we'll see what's next.

Bidness decisions coming soon to a QB near you.

Having Dak as Dead QB Walking is not good for the team.

Why would Dak sign long term next year guaranteed at 38mil, and only 1 year away from free agency? Didn't this year at 31mil and 2 years. Didn't last year at 2mil and 3 years.

PJTHEDOORS · Jul 19, 2020

Cowboysheelsreds053 said:
You missed the point. BYE!

So I missed that Dak plays 1 position & Teams win SB's? Awesome.

TheMarathonContinues · Jul 19, 2020

Dak is the least of my concern.

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jul 19, 2020

PJTHEDOORS said:
So I missed that Dak plays 1 position & Teams win SB's? Awesome.

Lol, yes not tennis or golf, so knew football was a team game. It is we not I in football. Was just saying to the poster if 41M a year would be the starting point for a contract, the boys better win the SB, too have a leg to stand on if the jones boys topped out a 35M this year.

PAPPYDOG · Jul 19, 2020

leeblair said:
With a one year deal, Dak cannot become set in his ways. He will be more receptive to Mike McCarthy's instructions, and will once again be in training- albeit, being paid very well to do so, under the tag.
His contract demands showed he believed that he had reached a pinnacle, and was at the top of the league as far as talent. But he wasn't.
Though he racked up huge numbers in the passing game, he was not able to give the Cowboys a boost against teams that they needed to beat to transcend to the next level.
Under Garrett, Dak was in danger of believing that what he had done was enough; he was coddled and never made to improve. His demands for a new contract show this clearly.
Now we actually have a new team. McCarthy isn't saddled with a guy he's never worked with that will eat up a huge chunk of the salary cap, and can run the team as he sees fit.
If Dak is the man, this year will bear that out. If not, we'll see what's next.

No way Dak survives Big Mike who has been spoiled with Farve and Rodgers.
Its gonna go south for Dak starting in training camp and will consummate at some point during the season when he is benched due to his inabilities to score against good teams.
Ask yourself what was Big Mike first piece of business bringing in Dalton?
BINGO!!!
Dak is on the ledge and never having any edge as I doubt his football IQ allows for this.
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Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jul 19, 2020

PAPPYDOG said:
No way Dak survives Big Mike who has been spoiled with Farve and Rodgers.
Its gonna go south for Dak starting in training camp and will consummate at some point during the season when he is benched due to his inabilities to score against good teams.
Ask yourself what was Big Mike first piece of business bringing in Dalton?
BINGO!!!
Dak is on the ledge and never having any edge as I doubt his football IQ allows for this.
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2 of the 4horsemen, Arn Anderson the Enforcer responding to the Natural Boy.

D4KADON · Jul 19, 2020

leeblair said:
With a one year deal, Dak cannot become set in his ways. He will be more receptive to Mike McCarthy's instructions, and will once again be in training- albeit, being paid very well to do so, under the tag.
His contract demands showed he believed that he had reached a pinnacle, and was at the top of the league as far as talent. But he wasn't.
Though he racked up huge numbers in the passing game, he was not able to give the Cowboys a boost against teams that they needed to beat to transcend to the next level.
Under Garrett, Dak was in danger of believing that what he had done was enough; he was coddled and never made to improve. His demands for a new contract show this clearly.
Now we actually have a new team. McCarthy isn't saddled with a guy he's never worked with that will eat up a huge chunk of the salary cap, and can run the team as he sees fit.
If Dak is the man, this year will bear that out. If not, we'll see what's next.

Personally, i would rather have a calmer Prescott like his rookie year and two years ago. This past year, especially at the tail end, I found him erratic

PJTHEDOORS · Jul 19, 2020

PAPPYDOG said:
No way Dak survives Big Mike who has been spoiled with Farve and Rodgers.
Its gonna go south for Dak starting in training camp and will consummate at some point during the season when he is benched due to his inabilities to score against good teams.
Ask yourself what was Big Mike first piece of business bringing in Dalton?
BINGO!!!
Dak is on the ledge and never having any edge as I doubt his football IQ allows for this.

What about Zeke vs those good teams and the non existent run game? Does he too get benched, because he didn't show up in the majority of those losses.

Be glad that Dak has to stay on edge

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