How many consecutive years can you tag the same player?

Plankton

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No there isn't any max times a player can be tagged. It doesn't make financial sense to keep doing it but there is no limit on the number of years a player can be tagged. The percentage of increase in money keeps going up each year, but there is no limit on how many times a player can be tagged. No player has been tagged more than twice but it can be more without any limit.
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Walter Jones was tagged three times by the Seahawks.
 

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I can definitely say we are not tagging him next year,either we give him a contract or he will be a FA.
 

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You guys just really have no concept of the time value of money and why Dak is getting the short end of the stick the way he is doing it.

Dollars in March are not the same as dollars 17 weeks throughout the season. The dollars are the same value and the interest you could have earned on that signing bonus is completely lost.

Dak costing himself money EVERY day!
It’s the same thing as pay him what he wants it’s inflated dollars down the road. I agree with what you’re saying
 

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He already lost at least 23m by not getting a deal done last year. He isn't making that up. BY signing a deal this year he could have easily got 90m guaranteed and provides protection against injury. How much is too much?
 

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Walter Jones was tagged three times by the Seahawks.


Yes that is correct. My bad saying no player had been tagged only twice. Technically he was tagged a 3rd time but just like Lawrence signing his deal days after being tagged a 2nd time Jones signed a long term deal after signing that 3rd tag offer.
 

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I'm starting to look at the negotiations a little differently..

Sure, there's an impasse, but assuming they play in 2020 and assuming (again) a long term deal isn't done, Dallas can tag Dak again in 2021, meaning around 68 mil in two years. Not necessarily a sign that the FO is willing to move on from Dak. And as for Dak, not a bad chunk of change for a couple of seasons for someone "without a contract".

I'm willing to see how this plays out. Heck, if there's no 2020 season, than Dallas looks *real* smart because (a) the salary cap will plunge and (b) they can franchise him in '21 and '22 instead of '20 and '21.

Back to my original question...can he be franchised again for a 3rd straight year? Dak will be pushing 30 by then: we'll know how expendable he is (...or not).

If they Franchise Dak for 3 straight seasons:
31M
37M
54M

Average 40M

It would be a good deal for the team considering that there is no guaranteed money. It's a year to year deal.
 

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Washington tagged Cousins 2 years in a row. He made tons of money and more than he would had he signed their deal they had offered him. It worked out for him perfectly. Year 2 will be much more than year 1 and year 3 would just be stupid money.

It was always in Dak's best interest to play for the tag this year.
Am I missing something here? The Cowboys offered 35 mil per year and what was the guarantee, 100 mil?
So instead of 35m with guaranteed more, he settled for 31 on the tag! Dak's going in reverse.
 
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He already lost at least 23m by not getting a deal done last year. He isn't making that up. BY signing a deal this year he could have easily got 90m guaranteed and provides protection against injury. How much is too much?

He keeps passing up opportunities and losing money every time.
 

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He already lost at least 23m by not getting a deal done last year. He isn't making that up. BY signing a deal this year he could have easily got 90m guaranteed and provides protection against injury. How much is too much?

he didn’t lose it, he deferred it. And offset it with a fully guaranteed 1 yr deal in which he gets everything he’s owed up front.

Am I missing something here? The Cowboys offered 35 mil per year and what was the guarantee, 100 mil?
So instead of 35m with guaranteed more, he settled for 31 on the tag! Dak's going in reverse.

the only way it backfires is of he doesn’t get even a reasonable long term deal after this.

110 gtd over 4 years is 27.5 a yr. he’s getting 31 this yr, and since the next tag is 37 he’ll either get that too or will likely be the floor for long term negotiations.
 

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he didn’t lose it, he deferred it. And offset it with a fully guaranteed 1 yr deal in which he gets everything he’s owed up front.

the only way it backfires is of he doesn’t get even a reasonable long term deal after this.

110 gtd over 4 years is 27.5 a yr. he’s getting 31 this yr, and since the next tag is 37 he’ll either get that too or will likely be the floor for long term negotiations.

The guaranteed amount is not all he would've made if he stayed 4 years. 4 yrs X 35 is 140 mil.!!
And if he gets badly injured, he'll get 31 mil and that's all. Not smart. I'd say that's an additional "backfire".
 

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The guaranteed amount is not all he would've made if he stayed 4 years. 4 yrs X 35 is 140 mil.!!
And if he gets badly injured, he'll get 31 mil and that's all. Not smart. I'd say that's an additional "backfire".


“If he stayed 4 years” is really no different than saying “If he gets a long term deal”. The odds are pretty great that he’ll exceed a 35m deal when (if) he does sign.
 

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“If he stayed 4 years” is really no different than saying “If he gets a long term deal”. The odds are pretty great that he’ll exceed a 35m deal when (if) he does sign.

Yes perhaps, but he's losing money now! He's been losing money ever since he refused to sign the Cowboy's long term offer! Apparently he hopes to make so much more eventually so as to make up for all the money he's losing now by refusing to sign long term with the Cowboys.
But until then, he's losing a lot of money he could've been making by signing the Cowboy's long term offer. Doesn't make sense. Somebody needs to buy this kid a calculator.
 

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He already lost at least 23m by not getting a deal done last year. He isn't making that up. BY signing a deal this year he could have easily got 90m guaranteed and provides protection against injury. How much is too much?

I agree with your point and the risk he is taking by not taking all that guaranteed money to play on a tag. I'm just not sure where he lost 23 million?
 

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I can definitely say we are not tagging him next year,either we give him a contract or he will be a FA.

No chance they do not tag him next year. Not a single chance. The team is going to do too well to be in position to grab the two good QBs from next years draft (at least 1 of whom will be a bust), which means you are grabbing a late teens first round QB which is even more likely to be a bust.

Basically Dak will sign an extension or get tagged. They will not tag him for the 3rd year as that number is very hard to manage (though if next year is back to normal not completely impossible).
 

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NO ONE WILL GET TAGGED 3 times in a row..Dak should have been tagged Non excusive to put a lot of this to bed this season but i digress..

typically two if you like the player and hope for a LTD, Dak will get the Non exclusive tag next off season so Dallas , Dak, and France can truly see what their market worth would be,

many great players have fetched two firsts, well if daks that Great and a team just one believes he is, 2 firsts will be offered, if not realty will hit and both party's can resolve this and most likely will..we do get to factor in 2020 Play from dak as well if he just flat kills it, not stats wise, but just has an obvious step up in his game and as a leader who can carry a team, hes signed the first day hes eligible after the season..

a lot of testosterone, Egos, and butthurt feelings has held things up so far.. that will end soon but why all the fuss Daks got big money to pay this year, we have a starting qb, and we can have another shot at a resolution next year..
 

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Now tell me the things you whiffed on lol. We've all had em. My best timing investment was bitcoin but I'm pissed I didn't invest more. made a ton of $$ tho.

But are you riding this chainlink wave?
 
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