Jamal Adams Traded to Seattle

PJTHEDOORS · Jul 26, 2020

StarBoyz83 said:
But but but he was coming here. Sorry fans we will have the normal under average safeties again. No response to sp3nd that much on a safety for dalls right now anyways.

Woods is under average?

AsthmaField · Jul 26, 2020

DandyDon52 said:
2 first round picks is too much, for any player lol. and then a 3rd too lol.
And then having to pay him top pay on top of that lol I dont know what they are doing lol.

And a starting player...

StarBoyz83 · Jul 26, 2020

PJTHEDOORS said:
Woods is under average?

So far at best I'd put him about average. Clinton is below average

Kwyn · Jul 26, 2020

Zordon said:
Some franchises are actually all-in on winning championships, others are content just talking about it.

Anyways, here comes the "they paid too much" crowd.

Same can be said for fanbases

a million excuses around here as to why we should “keep our powder dry” for the next 5 seasons and how our limited late first round picks will all turn into Pat Mahomes and Aaron Donald but only a few of us are willing to root for decisions that could actually result in a title run

granted, this price was very high but we had fans saying they wouldn’t trade our third beat WR for Adams straight up

Cowfan75 · Jul 26, 2020

Zordon said:
Some franchises are actually all-in on winning championships, others are content just talking about it.

Anyways, here comes the "they paid too much" crowd.

Yup. Some teams, like us, will forever refuse to do what it takes to get over the top. Lots of fans think like Jerry...want a Super Bowl, so long as it's cheap.

ErikWilliamsHeadSlap · Jul 26, 2020

aria said:
Not really a fair comparison being that Seattle picked 27th and 29th the last two years. Ask their fans if they would trade Jordyn Brooks and Collier for Adams and you will get a different answer.

People want to make fun of the trade but they’re the ones that keep winning, not us. This isn’t nearly as bad as some people make it.

They don't keep winning. They even lost to the Zeke Cowboys in the playoffs.

ErikWilliamsHeadSlap · Jul 26, 2020

I am not buying the argument that they have done poorly with their 1st rounders as justification for this trade. You do not give up the ability for drafting top talent for a safety. Just because the Lions, Cards, Vikings, Falcons, Jags, Titans, Bills, Bengals, Browns, Texans, Chargers and Panthers haven't won a Superbowl, it doesn't give them a reason to stop trying.

If Wilson goes down those become top 10 picks. Maybe even top 5. Because you can easily make the argument that nobody is more vital to a team's success than Wilson is to Seattle.

Or using the Steelers as an example of a team who generally draft late like the Seahawks do, Seattle just traded for Jamal Adams and gave up the potential for TJ Watt, Emmanuel Sanders, one more capable starter and Minkah Fitzpatrick who is just as good as Adams. And then have to re-set the market at the position. And hope that Adams lives up to his potential and stays healthy himself. All while dealing with whatever fallout there is from Covid-19 going forward.

It was a ludicrous decision from Seattle. And all the spin in the world will not change it.

Hadenough · Jul 26, 2020

The Seahawks over paid because they think Adams could be enough to help them dethrone the best team in the NFC the 49ers. Their running game combined with Kittle are hard to deal with.

Cowboyny · Jul 26, 2020

I wrote a post this summer that the only way the Jets would trade Adams was if someone offered them a deal they simply couldn't refuse. Seattle made such an offer and in my opinion grossly overpaid to land him.

The significance of dealing three premium draft picks and resigning a market setting contract at some point has disaster written all over it. Draft picks, especially day 1-2 one's are gold in this league. It allows teams to land quality starters and control them at affordable rates. The only way Seattle can improve their team now only comes from fa and the trade market, which is the most expensive route to improve their roster. Look what happened with the Rams this off-season, they had to gut their roster after making the Ramsey trade.

We can debated all we want about how good Jamal Adams is or isn't, but he simply doesn't play at a premium position. Unless you are trading for an QB, WR, LT, Pass Rusher or Corner, this trade makes zero sense.

tunahelper · Jul 26, 2020

IAmLegend said:
Oh well. They gave up the farm to get him. Kinda glad we didn’t do that tbh.

Perfect fit in Seattle on and off the field.

Cowboyny · Jul 26, 2020

rocyaice said:
Signing him won't be a issue. I mean they traded for him...they have to have the intent to sign him.

The price was steep. But like I said they are drafting busts in the 1st round and letting them go. I'd rather have Jamal Adams than draft 2 busts. Cowboys are far better in the 1st so I'd be pissed if they did that.

Draft picks are not just about landing quality starters, but also controlling them at low rates.

Cowboyny · Jul 26, 2020

fivetwos said:
Here I was writing yesterday that the price may have gone down after what he pulled yesterday....then tdd hey get way more than anyone would have ever thought.

I'm just stunned.

Adams is a good player, great in fact, and you folks that didnt believe will see that much closer now...but my goodness....that's like quarterback in his prime type of a haul.

You were the biggest supporter of making an Adams trade, but would agree this way too much to acquire him. If the Cowboys gave up this package, we would be calling for the Jones Family to step down.

aria · Jul 26, 2020

AsthmaField said:
They used a first round pick on a RB just about 3 years ago that was an abject failure from the moment he stepped on the field in Seattle... and was widely looked at as a reach when they took him. Using their drafting of RB as an example of how to do it isn’t good.

The point is that their drafting has been poor, despite hitting on some here and there.

Put Garrett in Seattle and Carroll in Dallas over that period of time and I’d wager it’d be different.

There is a difference between saying that they haven’t done well in the draft while Dallas has... and saying that Dallas is a better and more winning franchise. One is true and one isn’t.

Much of their franchise is very well run. Their drafting hasn’t been one of them.

Exactly, so if they typically pick at the end of of the first, if at all, and aren’t good at it then why is this such a bad deal?

If you took are two last draft picks that most closely resembles theirs, we have a guy we cut and a receiver who doesn’t show up in half the games and we only got him for two years before we had to pay him. I would have given up both of those for Adams and if I were Seattle it would be a no brainer.

aria · Jul 26, 2020

ErikWilliamsHeadSlap said:
They don't keep winning. They even lost to the Zeke Cowboys in the playoffs.

How far back to you want to go and please spare me the quarter century mark. In the past ten years they’ve been to two Super Bowls, won one of them and lost the other due to a horrible coaching call. IIRC, they’ve been to the playoffs 7 out of the past 10 years. In the past 5 years they’ve won 50 games, we’ve won 41. They did all of this with no first round pick for 4 out of the ten years and busts with late 1st round picks in the other.

I think most people would take their more recent record over ours.

phildadon86 · Jul 26, 2020

Hadenough said:
The Seahawks over paid because they think Adams could be enough to help them dethrone the best team in the NFC the 49ers. Their running game combined with Kittle are hard to deal with.

Mostert is gone. ( or is going to be) and they have jimmy g at QB, and traded Buckner. They still the best in the NFC?

The Quest for Six · Jul 26, 2020

And people on this forum were stating Williams and a third round pick should be enough to get Adams from the Jets. bahahaha

Dre11 · Jul 26, 2020

BigD_95 said:
that has more to do with having a real HC and not to mention one of the best QB

they have good football players and the best qb

Flamma · Jul 26, 2020

aria said:
Exactly, so if they typically pick at the end of of the first, if at all, and aren’t good at it then why is this such a bad deal?

If you took are two last draft picks that most closely resembles theirs, we have a guy we cut and a receiver who doesn’t show up in half the games and we only got him for two years before we had to pay him. I would have given up both of those for Adams and if I were Seattle it would be a no brainer.

On the surface the trade looks terrible. But when you consider they will most likely be two late first rounders and a 3rd round pick. No guarantee you're getting a player like that.

The Quest for Six · Jul 26, 2020

WillieBeamen said:
Would you trade Vander Esch, Gallup, & Lamb for Adams

HEEEEELLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOO!

Bullflop · Jul 26, 2020

I'm compelled to say I'm delighted Seattle is the team to get the shaft instead of our 'Boys. The Jets were obviously dead set upon gleaning as much as they possibly could to ravage the first sucker to submit to their greedy demands. Let's be duly relieved we wisely dodged that bullet.

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