Twitter: "I think people are surprised at how good he is at reading and processing."

HungryLion · Jul 27, 2020

Kaiser said:
Prescott had arguably the best rookie season of any QB in NFL History. That doesn't happen if a player is confused.

I mean there is clear visual evidence of Dak calling audibles and changing routes, which have then been successful and gotten big plays or scored touchdowns. He even did it during his rookie season. I recall one situation to specifically that Jon Gruden pointed out Dak doing it.

How he compares to other QB’s in the league is open to debate. Any insinuation he doesn’t know what he is looking at pre snap, is mind numbingly stupid though, but considering the initial source of that post. I’m not surprised.

Kaiser · Jul 27, 2020

Swagger said:
How many other quarterbacks in the league have played behind two future Hall of Fame offensive lineman and an All Pro (for three of the four years) throughout their entire career?

2016 was the only year that the OL was truly elite. In 2018 Dallas gave up the second most sacks despite Dak being a moble QB, Tyron and Martin are HOF players like you say but both were playing injured and at a fraction of their normal play.

In 2019 Dallas started Looney at C and gave up a ton of sacks at the LG position with Sua-Filo and Williams on his rookie season.

Kaiser · Jul 27, 2020

DakPresgoat said:
How he compares to other QB’s in the league is open to debate. Any insinuation he doesn’t know what he is looking at pre snap, is mind numbingly stupid though, but considering the initial source of that post. I’m not surprised.

Those posts make Michael Jordan cry. NFL DCs will exploit any weakness a team has, QBs that can't read a defense don't start for more than a year or so.

Super_Kazuya · Jul 27, 2020

Kaiser said:
2016 was the only year that the OL was truly elite. In 2018 Dallas gave up the second most sacks despite Dak being a moble QB, Tyron and Martin are HOF players like you say but both were playing injured and at a fraction of their normal play.

In 2019 Dallas started Looney at C and gave up a ton of sacks at the LG position with Sua-Filo and Williams on his rookie season.

LOL... the South Park troll is on a rampage again. He somehow single handedly lowers the IQ of the site with every post.

OmerV · Jul 27, 2020

Kaiser said:
2016 was the only year that the OL was truly elite. In 2018 Dallas gave up the second most sacks despite Dak being a moble QB, Tyron and Martin are HOF players like you say but both were playing injured and at a fraction of their normal play.

In 2019 Dallas started Looney at C and gave up a ton of sacks at the LG position with Sua-Filo and Williams on his rookie season.

In fairness, or at least fairness in my mind, in 2018 some of those sacks were from Dak taking too long to make a decision on either trying to complete a pass or throw the ball away.

TexasBoys2288 · Jul 27, 2020

EGTuna said:
Ain't that the truth. It's like those old-school Miller Lite "Tastes Great! Less Filling!" commercials at this point.

LOL. I never could drink that water called Miller Lite, but here is a few good old Bob Uecker Miller Lite Ads:

CouchCoach · Jul 27, 2020

I don't think it really matters because they do not have another option at QB. Top 7 or 12 is a lot better than what they've done other than having the 1st pick and luck.

And don't bring that Dalton stuff, the guy was in such high demand he signed for 3M to be a backup.

Kaiser · Jul 27, 2020

OmerV said:
In fairness, or at least fairness in my mind, in 2018 some of those sacks were from Dak taking too long to make a decision on either trying to complete a pass or throw the ball away.

Sure, but that cuts both ways. Dak took some sacks by waiting too long (which Russell Wilson does also) but he also avoided sacks with his mobility.

There were also sacks that were 90% on Scott Linehan because of terrible calls or play designs. Bob Sturm did a long four part review of all the sacks from that season after it was over and it was interesting, there were plenty where the blame wasn't easy to assign. He had more on Linehan than Prescott, the main takeaway was that Williams was pushed into starting too early and when he got hurt, Sua-Filo was awful in pass pro as his replacment. I think he had 16 of the sacks allowed on the LG position.

CWR · Jul 27, 2020

Direwolf63 said:
There is almost no point in posting stuff like this anymore.

Minds have been set in concrete one way or the other.

Speak for yourself, I love to hear the good news. Im pro Dak, but don't believe we were wrong for not resigning either. Id have liked to have him long term, but believe he still needs improvement to be the franchise guy we need.

OmerV · Jul 27, 2020

Kaiser said:
Sure, but that cuts both ways. Dak took some sacks by waiting too long (which Russell Wilson does also) but he also avoided sacks with his mobility.

There were also sacks that were 90% on Scott Linehan because of terrible calls or play designs. Bob Sturm did a long four part review of all the sacks from that season after it was over and it was interesting, there were plenty where the blame wasn't easy to assign. He had more on Linehan than Prescott, the main takeaway was that Williams was pushed into starting too early and when he got hurt, Sua-Filo was awful in pass pro as his replacment. I think he had 16 of the sacks allowed on the LG position.

That's true, but I personally felt Dak was making a conscious effort to hang in the pocket longer, and that caused some sacks. Might just be my impression or imagination, but I felt a lot of sacks that season came when there was enough time to make the decision to the throw the ball away. I think that's also why he fumbled so much more in 2018 than in other seasons.

Cowboys22 · Jul 27, 2020

rocyaice said:
I think the importance here is knowing how inflation works. So yes when he signs he will be a top 2 paid guy but if in 2 years that turns into the 7th or 8th highest paid are we still complaining about him wanting "top 2 money"?

There's a second part to how inflation works and that is when a product, in this case Dak, is eventually priced at a level that the buyer, in the case the Dallas Cowboys, decide to hold off purchasing and/or look at other options, such as continuing to rent for a little longer or going with a cheaper model. I wouldn't even say inflation is the way to look at it. Yes salaries are rising but I think it's more of a supply and demand issue. Teams are stuck with no real alternatives except the QB they have under contract or tagged so that QB essentially can ask for top dollar even though they aren't the top QB. Eventually some team will have to break that cycle. Are QBs going to be making $100 million per season in 7 or 8 years?

ondaedg · Jul 27, 2020

Swagger said:
One man's meat is another man's poison.

How many other quarterbacks in the league have played behind two future Hall of Fame offensive lineman and an All Pro (for three of the four years) throughout their entire career?

All these rankings are pointless as there are other quarterbacks in the league that haven't had a prayer to show what they can do due to what is around them.

So I ask myself one simple question did Prescott play like a top 7 QB in the eight losses last season...

Jets - No
Bears - No
Eagles - No
Patriots - No but to be fair neither did (a 42 year old) Tom Brady on the night
Saints - No
Vikings - Yes and arguably his best performance of the season yet the team still lost.
Bills - No
Packers - No

If he's a top 7 QB in the league then by jove the standard must be below par.

Dan Marino had three 8-8 seasons and one 5-7 season. Now apply your formula for determining QB prowess.

Aaron Rodgers had 6-10 and 6-9-1 seasons.

Troy Aikman had 0-11, 7-8 and 4-7 seasons.

Shall I go on?

Cebrin · Jul 27, 2020

BrAinPaiNt said:
Sadly that is true.

There still are some of us out here who are not completely pro or anti and it suck for us to have to wade through all of the tripe that each side spills out.

Exactly where I sit.

khiladi · Jul 27, 2020

Kaiser said:
2016 was the only year that the OL was truly elite. In 2018 Dallas gave up the second most sacks despite Dak being a moble QB, Tyron and Martin are HOF players like you say but both were playing injured and at a fraction of their normal play.

In 2019 Dallas started Looney at C and gave up a ton of sacks at the LG position with Sua-Filo and Williams on his rookie season.

Close to 40% of the sacks to were attributed to Dak.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...rescott-sacks-assigning-blame-offensive-line/

Kaiser · Jul 27, 2020

OmerV said:
That's true, but I personally felt Dak was making a conscious effort to hang in the pocket longer, and that caused some sacks. Might just be my impression or imagination, but I felt a lot of sacks that season came when there was enough time to make the decision to the throw the ball away. I think that's also why he fumbled so much more in 2018 than in other seasons.

Agree, plus its part of the normal development path for young QBs. Most fans forget but one of the big problems Romo had early in his career was he wouldn't stay in the pocket too long, he would scramble to try to make a huge play instead of a checkdown or throwing the ball away. His first couple of years as a starter he would turn plays like that into a 15 yard sack to kill a drive. He learned to throw the ball away, just like Dak.

Kaiser · Jul 27, 2020

BrAinPaiNt said:
There still are some of us out here who are not completely pro or anti and it suck for us to have to wade through all of the tripe that each side spills out.

I resent that, my tripe is split right down the middle!

Vegas_Cowboy · Jul 27, 2020

Direwolf63 said:
There is almost no point in posting stuff like this anymore.

Minds have been set in concrete one way or the other.

Exactly!

It's like trying to change someones political views or religious beliefs at this point. We can post stuff like this all day but it's not going to change anyone's mind. It's been fun watching some folks go in the same circle with each other though.

:popcorn:

OmerV · Jul 27, 2020

Kaiser said:
Agree, plus its part of the normal development path for young QBs. Most fans forget but one of the big problems Romo had early in his career was he wouldn't stay in the pocket too long, he would scramble to try to make a huge play instead of a checkdown or throwing the ball away. His first couple of years as a starter he would turn plays like that into a 15 yard sack to kill a drive. He learned to throw the ball away, just like Dak.

Absolutely. I think it was admirable that he was working on staying in the pocket and not bailing out too soon, but as with most things, he had to find the balance. He may have done that in 2019.

EGTuna · Jul 27, 2020

TexasBoys2288 said:
LOL. I never could drink that water called Miller Lite, but here is a few good old Bob Uecker Miller Lite Ads:

Agreed. The beer is terrible. The commercials were great.

cern · Jul 27, 2020

BrAinPaiNt said:
Sadly that is true.

There still are some of us out here who are not completely pro or anti and it suck for us to have to wade through all of the tripe that each side spills out.

I would think fence straddlers would appreciate other pov's that might help them come to a more complete decision.

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