Video: The Herd-Mike McCarthy does not need Dak Prescott

kskboys · Jul 28, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
Could you explain how the one year was the road block. It doesn't SEEM like a big deal just on the surface. 4 years is still a long time in NFL years.

I never bought that excuse. That excuse screams that there's underlying reasons.

kskboys · Jul 28, 2020

BigD_95 said:
Because the offer was never really something Dak would accept and they knew that.

They offered an guaranteed amount for 5 years that Wentz & Goff got for 4 years. No way Dak would agree to that. They also knew Dak wanted a 4 year deal.

So Dallas makes what seems to be a reasonable offer to save face with the public but knowing all well Dak would never take a guarantee for 5 years that Goff & Wentz got for 4 years.

BS.

The offer was commensurate w/ what QB's are making. You appear to have taken a side and spun the reel to blame anyone but Dak. Dak's side refused to negotiate.

cern · Jul 28, 2020

kskboys said:
BS.

The offer was commensurate w/ what QB's are making. You appear to have taken a side and spun the reel to blame anyone but Dak. Dak's side refused to negotiate.

dak wanted a disproportionate slice of the pie. qb's don't grow on trees, but neither do slices of pie.

BigD_95 · Jul 28, 2020

kskboys said:
BS.

The offer was commensurate w/ what QB's are making. You appear to have taken a side and spun the reel to blame anyone but Dak. Dak's side refused to negotiate.

hold on a second. Lets not misread anything - Im pro Jerry on this completely. I completely blame Dak for this deal not getting done. I think once Dak backed out at the beginning of the season on a handshake deal last year .... Jerry & Co. took a hard line on Dak (which I support).

I'm completely on the side of the organization. I just think at this point Dallas is looking toward the future & with a new HC they want him to look the whole QB position over before they cave on Dak's unreasonable demands.

Dak could have used a different agent or told his agent to get a deal done. This agent is not about working out a fair deal for the player & team but just to get the most money for the player. This has turned into pure greed on Daks part.

Vtwin · Jul 28, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
Could you explain how the one year was the road block. It doesn't SEEM like a big deal just on the surface. 4 years is still a long time in NFL years.

The QB's Dak is comped against signed four year deals which ran concurrent to the remaining years on their current contract. After signing their 4 year deals they were under contract for 5 years which is good for salary cap management purposes. Good for everyone.

Had Dak been offered and signed a 4 year deal like his comps he would have been under contract for the four years of the new contract only which hinders cap management. Good for Dak, bad for management.

OmerV · Jul 28, 2020

cern said:
dak wanted a disproportionate slice of the pie. qb's don't grow on trees, but neither do slices of pie.

Don't I know it. A slice of pecan pie sounds terrific now, but there isn't one to be found in my house

plasticman · Jul 28, 2020

OmerV said:
I don't agree with much of what Cowherd said either. Realistically Garrett no longer needed the money either. He made a nice chunk of change the last 10 years. And I doubt McCarthy considers his legacy complete. A Super Bowl win is a nice part of that, but he still has a lot of years he can coach and I'm sure he isn't just resting on past laurels. I doubt what Cowher is talking about is in McCarthy's mind at all.

But the headline is misleading and I feel people should understand the actual content instead of letting the headline do the talking.

That's a very valid point. I find that it's true far more often these days.

During the preseason the subject matter involves mostly speculation, shoud they do this, will they do that kind of stuff. I know we are all looking forward to the regular season so we can get an answer to all our questions

plasticman · Jul 28, 2020

PJTHEDOORS said:
If defense needs have a higher grade 1st 4 rounds, I go defense.

These days, due to free angeny and salary caps, needs. change rapidly. However, I beleive a team should draft a great value when the opportunity rises regardless of present need.

Perhaps I should word this better. I the Cowboys should have the opportunity to draft a QB that they evaluated as one capable of playing at a high level for a great value then they should do it rehardless of other needs.

The idea of "needs" should never suggest that a particular player satisfies that need. That type of mentality does not recognize the reality of potential failure or injury. The correct approach should be the desire to strengthen a particular unit. That implies that few squads are perfect, that they can't use an upgrade of some degree.

Prioritizing can result in a loss of value or quality and again, we never know where a need is going to appear.

For example, at the beginning of last aeason we thought we had an elite LB squad.

Redball Express · Jul 28, 2020

BigD_95 said:
I truly believe Dalton was brought in for MM to take a good look at and see if he feels he can win with him until another young drafted QB is ready.

I think Dallas didn't want to sign Dak long term unless it was a team friendly contract & that is why Dallas stuck to their guns. They are not sold on Dak for that kind of money.

MM will get a year with Dak & Dalton and can evaluate them both before the organization commits long term. Dallas can always cave to Dak's demands next off-season if MM feels he truly is the guy.

And lets not forget Rodgers will be a free agent in 2 years if not next season. You dont think MM wouldn't want him running his offense for 3 years with the talent he would have around him.

Im just not so sure the organization feels they even need Dak at this point.

Can't envision Rodgers coming to Dallas with McCarthy here.

Their history would seem to preclude that.

Now Dalton and Dak.?

Becuz of the money with Dak..he starts and until Dallas is out of the playoffs mathmatically..

Dalton would be brought in to play and evaluate. Then the team explores its options.

CowboyFrog · Jul 28, 2020

plasticman said:
That's a very valid point. I find that it's true far more often these days.

During the preseason the subject matter involves mostly speculation, shoud they do this, will they do that kind of stuff. I know we are all looking forward to the regular season so we can get an answer to all our questions

i also read a lot of comments here about Dak's

plasticman said:
These days, due to free angeny and salary caps, needs. change rapidly. However, I beleive a team should draft a great value when the opportunity rises regardless of present need.

Perhaps I should word this better. I the Cowboys should have the opportunity to draft a QB that they evaluated as one capable of playing at a high level for a great value then they should do it rehardless of other needs.

The idea of "needs" should never suggest that a particular player satisfies that need. That type of mentality does not recognize the reality of potential failure or injury. The correct approach should be the desire to strengthen a particular unit. That implies that few squads are perfect, that they can't use an upgrade of some degree.

Prioritizing can result in a loss of value or quality and again, we never know where a need is going to appear.

For example, at the beginning of last aeason we thought we had an elite LB squad.

I agree there is something to always looking for the next starter... instead of looking for a specific position an reaching for a player....

ItzKelz · Jul 28, 2020

Redball Express said:
Here..

I have suspected this for sometime.

The fact your new HC does not talk on the phone the week he was hired even to just say how's the weather?

You have to wonder how this relationship is going to work out.

The Herd needs Dak lol

Howboutdemcowboys31 · Jul 28, 2020

DakPresgoat said:
As long as Mike McCarthy makes the decision. I am ok with it.

If he chooses to keep Dak. Great.

if he chooses to draft a QB. As long as he scouts and picks the QB. Then that’s great too.

I just don’t want Jerry or Stephen making the decision. I trust McCarthy.

This!

I strongly prefer we keep Dak, but if McCarthy really isn't feeling him and has a solution cya

Dre11 · Jul 28, 2020

Jipper said:
Mm is a real hc, and a real hc is in charge and decides when and if he is going to reach out to players

He’s not beholden to them and I think he’s going to change the culture In a very positive way here...I suspect this is more a factor of that then not needing dak

Lol, this real HC bs has me cracking up, he's only going to do what the Joneses allow...lol

Dre11 · Jul 28, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
LOL....interesting how fans /posters take these talking heads angles as the truth almighty. This is nothing but pure speculation any one of us could have said. Nothing to see here.......

Colin was just blasted as a noob about a month ago on another take he had, now he's God.

Section446 · Jul 28, 2020

Been saying this for months, if he wanted him, he'd already be signed.

CowboyFrog · Jul 28, 2020

Section446 said:
Been saying this for months, if he wanted him, he'd already be signed.

He is signed, while yes you can draw a conclusion that signing Dak to a long term deal seals his future, its not like they said "play for pennies or get out" they used the highest tag they could on him and tried to sign him longer than he wanted......what in those actions say " we don't want you"?

kskboys · Jul 28, 2020

BigD_95 said:
hold on a second. Lets not misread anything - Im pro Jerry on this completely. I completely blame Dak for this deal not getting done. I think once Dak backed out at the beginning of the season on a handshake deal last year .... Jerry & Co. took a hard line on Dak (which I support).

I'm completely on the side of the organization. I just think at this point Dallas is looking toward the future & with a new HC they want him to look the whole QB position over before they cave on Dak's unreasonable demands.

Dak could have used a different agent or told his agent to get a deal done. This agent is not about working out a fair deal for the player & team but just to get the most money for the player. This has turned into pure greed on Daks part.

IMO the offer was more than fair and Dak simply wouldn't negotiate.

I don't believe this org went in w/ bad faith, but I definitely believe Dak/agent did.

kskboys · Jul 28, 2020

Vtwin said:
The QB's Dak is comped against signed four year deals which ran concurrent to the remaining years on their current contract. After signing their 4 year deals they were under contract for 5 years which is good for salary cap management purposes. Good for everyone.

Had Dak been offered and signed a 4 year deal like his comps he would have been under contract for the four years of the new contract only which hinders cap management. Good for Dak, bad for management.

If Dak is basing his contract demands purely on a couple other guys, he's even dumber and more childish than I thought. I mean, this is some grade school crapp.

TwoDeep3 · Jul 28, 2020

One week Cowherd is a hero, the next he is a simpleton.

Frankly I don't think he could find his butt with a road map and a tour guide.

plasticman · Jul 28, 2020

Dre11 said:
Lol, this real HC bs has me cracking up, he's only going to do what the Joneses allow...lol

And you are backed up by 25 years of proof. I don't get why I'm reading how McC is going to do this, he's going to do that. He wants this guy or he he doesn't want that guy.
Most likely, Either McC was instructed not to contact Dak or there is some type of negotiations protocol that restricted him from doing so. I mean, what is he going to say that can't be used in some way by Dak's agent?

We know he can't say something like, "I'm looking forward to..." or "We really need....". We know he can't do that so what would be the point of any call?

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