Video: Jerry Jones will fire Dak Prescott if he has to pay Mahomes money

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Totally agree on RB and Coop (who he should of signed at the time of trade rather than leave it until he was indispensable), and any agent will push Jones until he capitulates.....what a time to grow a pair.

As I keep saying (and signature supports), I want Dak long term but can also see the potential issues of CAP resources in the short term (even after restructuring).

I think MM doesnt want his hands tied, he wants at least some CAP money to spend....signing Dak short term doesnt allow the Jones to give a contract like DLaw, Coops, Zeke, which has upfront bonuses, but flexibility at the latter end.

Just an negotiation breakdown - no give and take, both sides to blame.
Agreed, nice post.
 

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So zeke was the no show and Dak carried the team on his back with heroic performances? Such as...what?

So we have teams telling us "Stop Zeke stop the cowboys"....but you are going to hold on to your Dak saved us thing? Wow....dak derangement syndrome.

Look...I don't hate dak. He did pretty well driving a Lamborghini. Not just anyone can do that. Not just any QB has 3-4 #1 draft picks crouching next to him. Then go out and get a legit #1 WR for yet ANOTHER #1 pick. Let's just TRY to keep it real. Don;t let your zeke hatred cloud your mind.
which teams said stop zeke, stop cowboys? how many teams? where are your sources?

and tell me which super hero, cape wearing QB has no weapons and does it all by himself. lets list them if you will.
 

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how exactly do you propose We do that when Dalton is signed for only one year? He’s certainly not taking 3 mil to be the starter.
he will take 20M to lead us to a first round playoff loss, where he just chokes away the game...and the Dalton supporters, dak haters will rejoice that we saved 11M on the cap.
 

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agree but


I acknowledged most rate him between 8 and 13...elite is top 3 to 5 max....he’s not elite....
I don't disagree with that, but with that said, only 3-5, which leaves 28-25 teams without elite QBs.....and their QBs are getting paid whether we the fans like it or not. its the NFL. its the NFL market. most often has nothing to do with where a QB ranks among other QBs in anybody's mind....
 

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Bad time to extort during a pandemic,, Mahomes deal was the perfect storm.
Man succeeded and got a ring, got 500m, and still allowed KC to sign several other team mates like Chris Jones, with team friendly term and structure.
That is one well run organization in KC.
his contract really doesn't kick in until after this year, so this year's salary is still relatively low....they are banking on the fact that in 3 or 4 years, the cap will jump significantly, so they took a risk. the length and guarantees of the contract allowed them to pay him, perhaps less as compared to if they would have done two or three contracts over the next 12 years....beneficial for both. Dak may have agreed to similar deal if given a 10 year deal, lets say 10 years, $400M. but would we want that?
 

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So if the general consensus is that Dalton isnt a starter and he's already (I think) the highest paid back up QB, he'd be willing for an extensions of around $3m (+ incentives).

1) We don't need elite with this offense.....just a stop gap.
2) We have to set up contingencies in the eventuality Dak leaves.
we are not going to win anything with Dalton, regardless of what he is surrounded with. teams that have won with very average QBs have had elite defenses. elite, dominant defenses. we are nothing close to that....Baltimore did it twice, with average QB and elite defenses. SF last year had average QB, but elite defense. they came close. teams that win offensively have to have the QB play and surround him with lots of talent, regardless of who is the QB. rarely do we see an elite QB without elite talent and great defense win anything...perhaps once.....
 

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So, Flacco and Eli were Mahomes level QBs? Your logic is severely flawed. The Super Bowl isn’t always won by the team with the NFLs best QB.
Nor is it won by the team with the most expensive QB like Dak wants to be.

And Mahomes became expensive only in 2 years once his rookie deal is over.

So what is the point? Just trying to understand.
 

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We had no ST. I wonder how many missed FGs there was in those losses. How many times we had to start drives on our 10 yard line.
Plus how many times did we shorten the other teams scoring distance by missing the FG at 40 yds + and give the ball up at midfield.?

Way way too often.
 

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we are not going to win anything with Dalton, regardless of what he is surrounded with. teams that have won with very average QBs have had elite defenses. elite, dominant defenses. we are nothing close to that....Baltimore did it twice, with average QB and elite defenses. SF last year had average QB, but elite defense. they came close. teams that win offensively have to have the QB play and surround him with lots of talent, regardless of who is the QB. rarely do we see an elite QB without elite talent and great defense win anything...perhaps once.....

I mean case in point if anyone is willing to concede Dak is better than Dalton than by virtue of what happened to the defense last year, you're certainly not going to win with worse QB play...again i think Dak was the least of our problems last year, and all the information supports that.
 

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He also criticized his teammates.

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/phi...wboys-dak-prescott-carson-wentz-20191017.html

The fact that Cooper essentially bailed his career out is pretty well known to anybody paying attention. This statement is similar to when he was struggling before the team went and got him. He blamed his receivers including TEs, that they need to help him out.



I find it EXTREMELY funny that you chose an article written back in October last year by a Philadelphia sportswriter about the QB of his teams biggest enemy who never spoke directly to Prescott at any time. Just a great source. lol
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I think he will get a similar offer next year. He is set to make 37. Was apparently offered 35 last offer. They seemed to have a agreement on the structure at least. He wants that big signing bonus. Maybe 36 next year. A few more million guaranteed. I am sure Daks agent will stall until watson and or jackson gets paid.. Also depends on how he does this season. Or the team..
I will be drop dead surprised he gets a 2nd tag which then locks in a 3rd tag at like $45mil or something like that.

The crashing cap is going to force the adjustment Dak will not volunteerily make.

Things have a nasty habit of taking unexpected turns these days.
 

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Plus how many times did we shorten the other teams scoring distance by missing the FG at 40 yds + and give the ball up at midfield.?

Way way too often.
Yep. And our Defense couldn’t get off the field. How many 3rd and longs did our Defense give up.
 

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So if the general consensus is that Dalton isnt a starter and he's already (I think) the highest paid back up QB, he'd be willing for an extensions of around $3m (+ incentives).

1) We don't need elite with this offense.....just a stop gap.
2) We have to set up contingencies in the eventuality Dak leaves.
I think he is the 8th highest paid though some of those paid more are backups after losing there job and a guy like hill is not just a backup QB
I think you always want an elite QB but it’s very hard to have one all the time. Part of being elite by definition is there aren’t many
I think you have to be planning right now for Dak to be gine next year. Because it is a possibility and you can for all possibilities
I think Dak is a top 10 QB and having a top 10 QB means at that position you are ahead of 2/3 of the league
The odds of having a top 3-4 QB are slim. Some teams never have and most teams have only had one or two in their history
So you build a TEAM that can win with a top 10 player because that’s still a very good QB
The issues with the cap going forward will effect lots of decisions
I wanted Dak signed and wish we had got it done. But we didn’t and looking forward it’s only gonna get harder
So you have to have a plan to move on
Dalton may be a short term bridge for one more season but to me if you are gonna move on from Dak you have no choice but get in top of next draft and take your shot
That’s gonna be very expensive in terms of picks at a time when the value of picks is higher than ever because of the uncertainty of the draft going forward
 

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I will be drop dead surprised he gets a 2nd tag which then locks in a 3rd tag at like $45mil or something like that.

The crashing cap is going to force the adjustment Dak will not volunteerily make.

Things have a nasty habit of taking unexpected turns these days.
Just have a feeling he may be signed quickily after this season is over unless we make the SB or championship. His agent will stall or start asking for 40 a year. Lol. But hey if he helps us get a SB and gets the MVP then give it to him.
 

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his contract really doesn't kick in until after this year, so this year's salary is still relatively low....they are banking on the fact that in 3 or 4 years, the cap will jump significantly, so they took a risk. the length and guarantees of the contract allowed them to pay him, perhaps less as compared to if they would have done two or three contracts over the next 12 years....beneficial for both. Dak may have agreed to similar deal if given a 10 year deal, lets say 10 years, $400M. but would we want that?
Dak would never sign a 10 year deal.

Nor would we wish to do that.

He is already going into his 5th yr. now.

15 years of Dak?

Why would we do that?
 

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Based on the 37.7 tag next year I’d have to believe the 35 will be outdated.
For one year it definitely would, but if the teams take a big financial hit this year they may not be as willing to pay that much for a longer term deal. Ultimately the market is whatever owners are willing to pay.
 

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Disagree on Dak not being elite. Any offense will struggle to move the chains if the run game is a no show vs a good defense. This is on Kellen Moore to get Pollard more involved if Zeke keeps getting stuffed at the line.

This assumes the open routes in the passing game wasn't there. I don't know what specific game that's being discussed here so I can't speak to what that looked like but if the running game isn't working, then the passing game has to come through and that's on the QB and receivers, just as much, if not more, then it is Moore. I've seen very few games that we didn't have WRs open. We are too good at that position these days.
 

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Dak would never sign a 10 year deal.

Nor would we wish to do that.

He is already going into his 5th yr. now.

15 years of Dak?

Why would we do that?


I think when you look at super long contract (there are not many for sure) you have to read all the clauses for opt out and restructures that they come with, so on the service 10 years but in reality its probably getting re evaluated much much sooner.
 
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