Twitter: NFLPA player reps approve the NFL’s proposal

fivetwos · Jul 25, 2020

DakPresgoat said:
It feels like it’s going to force them to sign a long term deal with Dak or let him walk.

if the cap is really 175. If they resign him they can structure it so the first year is a low cap hit.

But finding space for 37 mil is gonna be tough.

With a ton of restructuring they could probably make it work, but that would mean they still havent gotten anything done after Jan 3 but before the start of the league year in March.

I feel like they will get something done within that time frame, but if they still havent, and endure the consequences of a second tag, its probably time to face facts and move on anyway.

Move on to exactly what, that people arent expecting will also be overpaid, I have no idea.

In other words, they have 2.5 months to get a deal done after the regular season, get it done one way or the other!

Hoofbite · Jul 25, 2020

The salary cap remains the same for 2020 at $198.2 million per team, and there is a cap floor of $175 million in 2021 with the possibility of it being higher based on revenue streams.

The loss of any potential revenue will be spread out over the next four years, through 2024.

This seems like the obvious route. Can't have teams taking a massive cap hit in a single year. Just wouldn't work.

maryquality · Jul 25, 2020

Typhus · Jul 25, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
This is a mistake. Proven RBs on their rookie deals should opt out as a matter of course if they're still going to get their accrued season. One less year of damage to their bodies when they negotiate their first free agent contract.

Maybe other positions will do this too. Think of guys in their contract years. They can teleport to free agency.

Yes, I had already copied and prepared to post the same until I read your post, this....
NFL players considered high risk to COVID-19 can earn $350,000 and an accrued NFL season if they choose to opt out of the 2020 season. Players without risk can earn $150,000 for opting out.
This is very vague, and what is considered "without risk"?

joseephuss · Jul 25, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
This is a mistake. Proven RBs on their rookie deals should opt out as a matter of course if they're still going to get their accrued season. One less year of damage to their bodies when they negotiate their first free agent contract.

Maybe other positions will do this too. Think of guys in their contract years. They can teleport to free agency.

In order to do so a player would have be prove they are at high risk. It isn't clear what high risk means, but I'm sure that is in the fine print. If a player who isn't considered at high risk opts out, then they don't get an accrued season. It will be interesting seeing which players opt out and what they provide to prove they are high risk.

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Williamsboys · Jul 25, 2020

Yippeeeeeee.

buybuydandavis · Jul 25, 2020

Typhus said:
Yes, I had already copied and prepared to post the same until I read your post, this....
NFL players considered high risk to COVID-19 can earn $350,000 and an accrued NFL season if they choose to opt out of the 2020 season. Players without risk can earn $150,000 for opting out.
This is very vague, and what is considered "without risk"?

Almost certainly they have not specified "high risk" in quantifiable medical terms. All it's gonna take is for a player to find some elevated "risk factor". So everyone will be high risk if they wanna.

I don't think they touched on forcing players out because of exposure, and therefore being high risk *to other players*. That will be a mess.

buybuydandavis · Jul 25, 2020

joseephuss said:
In order to do so a player would have be prove they are at high risk. It isn't clear what high risk means, but I'm sure that is in the fine print. If a player who isn't considered at high risk opts out, then they don't get an accrued season. It will be interesting seeing which players opt out and what they provide to prove they are high risk.

I'm sure it's *not* in the fine print. It's a medical judgment call based on our growing knowledge. The NFL is *not* going to get into the business of specifying what is and is not a personal medical risk factor for Voldemort. If a doctor says a player is high risk, he's high risk. Hence any player who wants out will find a doctor who asserts that he is high risk.

joseephuss · Jul 28, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
I'm sure it's *not* in the fine print. It's a medical judgment call based on our growing knowledge. The NFL is *not* going to get into the business of specifying what is and is not a personal medical risk factor for Voldemort. If a doctor says a player is high risk, he's high risk. Hence any player who wants out will find a doctor who asserts that he is high risk.

The memo found in this link provides the definition of what constitutes high risk. Specific in some respects, but not ultra-specific.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/te...lines-COVID-19-amendments-to-CBA-15435633.php

buybuydandavis · Jul 28, 2020

joseephuss said:
The memo found in this link provides the definition of what constitutes high risk. Specific in some respects, but not ultra-specific.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/te...lines-COVID-19-amendments-to-CBA-15435633.php

Thank you.

Clears up some things I had wrong.

Voluntary opt-outs do *not* accrue a season.
High risk opt-outs do.
The high risk cohabitant seems like a huge can of worms, and they haven't spelled it out.
A real can of worms comes at the end, with "Discipline for Covid High Risk Content".

Also, at the end they say they'll put out a more detailed document when all terms have been worked out. This nine pages is just a summary of plans now. What a mess.

joseephuss · Jul 28, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
Thank you.

Clears up some things I had wrong.

Voluntary opt-outs do *not* accrue a season.
High risk opt-outs do.
The high risk cohabitant seems like a huge can of worms, and they haven't spelled it out.
A real can of worms comes at the end, with "Discipline for Covid High Risk Content".

Also, at the end they say they'll put out a more detailed document when all terms have been worked out. This nine pages is just a summary of plans now. What a mess.

It is definitely seems very messy. I can't imagine there not being a few lawsuits being brought by some players at some point.

Jfconrow · Jul 29, 2020

buybuydandavis said:
This is a mistake. Proven RBs on their rookie deals should opt out as a matter of course if they're still going to get their accrued season. One less year of damage to their bodies when they negotiate their first free agent contract.

Maybe other positions will do this too. Think of guys in their contract years. They can teleport to free agency.

Thats kind of cool if you’re playing for the minimum or on the rookie contract you can opt out. Also It looks like Dak would get his guaranteed money even if the season is cancelled.

buybuydandavis · Jul 29, 2020

Jfconrow said:
Thats kind of cool if you’re playing for the minimum or on the rookie contract you can opt out. Also It looks like Dak would get his guaranteed money even if the season is cancelled.

I had some bad info.

High Risk opt outs accrue a season.
Other voluntary opt outs don't.

Someone posted a page press release on the agreement.

Crazy if players get their guaranteed money even if the season is cancelled. I don't know how the teams could possibly afford that.

Jfconrow · Jul 29, 2020

What happens if Dak gets the virus, does he get all his 30M? Or maybe he has to try and come back after a month or so

CowboyRoy · Jul 29, 2020

ShortRound131 said:

The season will never get completed if at all.

HungryLion · Jul 29, 2020

Jfconrow said:
What happens if Dak gets the virus, does he get all his 30M? Or maybe he has to try and come back after a month or so

He gets his pay. It’s like any other player on IR. I believe the Covid IR is only 3 weeks though

Adreme · Jul 29, 2020

Hoofbite said:
This seems like the obvious route. Can't have teams taking a massive cap hit in a single year. Just wouldn't work.

The owners certainly did not want to be in a situation where after losing money this year they were then going to have write a bunch of big checks to players, because they only way to maneuver the salary cap would be restructures and as such that would mean paying a lot of players most of their next years salary in advance and spreading out the cap hit.

It would work to normalize the cap situation (and a lot that still likely will happen next year) but now it will not be half the roster.

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