Twitter: Since 2016 feeding Zeke has 0 correlation to winning

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Zeke did not run against many stacked boxes. He was actually middle of the pack in that category. NEXT!

"Stacked boxes"...doesn't mean they don't game plan for zeke.

Philly said "stop zeke stop the cowboys".

It's been said we "start slow". This could be a good reason for it.

I'd like to go look at first qtr passing stats...in fact qtr by qtr. Stand by.
 

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"Stacked boxes"...doesn't mean they don't game plan for zeke.

Philly said "stop zeke stop the cowboys".

It's been said we "start slow". This could be a good reason for it.

I'd like to go look at first qtr passing stats...in fact qtr by qtr. Stand by.
They can gameplan all they want but if hes not running against additional defenders its just their guys being better than ours
 

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They can gameplan all they want but if hes not running against additional defenders its just their guys being better than ours
"Additional defenders"...are ONLY the ones officially "in the box"?
I get it...that's where they would usually be....but I think you could game plan to "stop zeke"...with extra resources not necessarily obviously in 'the box".

And if zeke wasn't "effective"...did we burn them with passing game? I'm not sure just asking.

It seems to me coaches share this allegedly bad stat.
 

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"Additional defenders"...are ONLY the ones officially "in the box"?
I get it...that's where they would usually be....but I think you could game plan to "stop zeke"...with extra resources not necessarily obviously in 'the box".

And if zeke wasn't "effective"...did we burn them with passing game? I'm not sure just asking.

It seems to me coaches share this allegedly bad stat.

No matter how much you explain it to them, they won't get it. All they care about is the "numbers in the box" at snap which tells you nothing.

I mean if that's all you cared about at the snap being a QB choosing between 2 plays would be simple.

It's like these people think reading a defense in the NFL is as simple as 1+1=2
 

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"Additional defenders"...are ONLY the ones officially "in the box"?
I get it...that's where they would usually be....but I think you could game plan to "stop zeke"...with extra resources not necessarily obviously in 'the box".

And if zeke wasn't "effective"...did we burn them with passing game? I'm not sure just asking.

It seems to me coaches share this allegedly bad stat.
You tell me if we burned them in the passing game. We were a top 3 offense and the qb threw for 4900 yards.
 

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i like zeke. i like the feed me gesture. i think he's the best rb in the nfl. 3 down back. chain mover.
 

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i wish we had a countdown clock for when this overpaid loser diva is no longer wearing a Cowboys uniform. he’s the most unlikeable player this team has had in years and is one of the worst mistakes the FO has made in the past decade.
 

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You tell me if we burned them in the passing game. We were a top 3 offense and the qb threw for 4900 yards.


That tells me NOTHING about how we did when "critics" (I'm being polite here) bash Zeke for not being effective enough. Which was what we're were talking about. Keep moving the goal posts! Deflect from the actual subject matter.

You just cherry pick any stat you want....to support an opinion.
 

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i wish we had a countdown clock for when this overpaid loser diva is no longer wearing a Cowboys uniform. he’s the most unlikeable player this team has had in years and is one of the worst mistakes the FO has made in the past decade.

Count down can start AND END right now when you take your fake fan but out!

You;d know all about being "most unlikable".
 

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Zeke running against stacked boxes says nothing about how many time Dak threw against stacked boxes, because of the presence of Zeke...

It’s also ridiculously absurd for people to claim guys like Barkley are better than Zeke, when Barkley is a magnet for negative yardage and this stain on his career, goes back to his days in college and one of his biggest criticism. Barkley was drafted because teams were defending the Giants primarily in cover 2 deep zone and they wanted to force man coverage, but that’s not what happened and even Barkley said it was disrespectful that teams continued to defend the Giants the way that they do. Nobody says that about the Cowboys, where Dak basically gets his against man coverage, while being mediocre against zones, even with the addition of Cooper.

Further, Barkley’s big runs distort his YPC average and his garbage time yards.

Also, it’s ridiculously laughable that Dak homers bash Zeke and his character, when Dak and Zeke are basically attached at the hip and party together. And Dak comes out and exclusively mentions Zeke, Witten and himself were the guys who practice hard, while others take off, when the offense was struggling. We also know that Jerry basically said during Zeke’s suspension, that it was great for the fans, because Dak sucking was a learning experience, allowing him to grow and mature as a QB. Even Dak knows his bread and butter.
 
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That tells me NOTHING about how we did when "critics" (I'm being polite here) bash Zeke for not being effective enough. Which was what we're were talking about. Keep moving the goal posts! Deflect from the actual subject matter.

You just cherry pick any stat you want....to support an opinion.
analytically zeke wasn't that effective. We weren't very efficient on offense running the football that is a fact. sorry my guy
 

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Also, by the time the Cowboys played the Bills, Dallas was ranked second in play-action usage and a third of Dak’s yards were off of it. 30% of his plays are off play-action with Moore. So this idea that Zeke isn’t impacting the way defenses play the Cowboys and that Dak is basically a product of the run game is a joke. That stat isn’t going to show up in amount of times Zeke runs into stacked boxes, though with the amount of times Zeke has actually run into them, because defenses don’t think much of Dak, has consistently worn him down over the years. It’s no surprise Dallas is mediocre in the red zone when Dak has to go through his progressions.

Again, this idea that the offense and play calling hasn’t been adjusted to Dak’s “skill set” is utterly asinine.

As Hyde, the safety of the Bills said:

“Teams load the box, and Dak takes advantage of play action,” Hyde said. “It’s something we have to account for and understand that it’s going to come.”

3 of the top 5 defenses against play-action, Dak looked like garbage. One of them, the 49ers they didn’t even play. The only one he performed decent against were the Rams and that’s because Zeke went off and even AD couldn’t get to Dak because the OL completely dominated. He sucker against the Patriots, Bears and Bills.

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bill...cle_7b6854af-e371-59c1-b9c8-d11cf0c4acdb.html
 
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And great. Why? All because of zeke I suppose?
I think a lot from zeke coming into the season out of shape and the play calling being very predictable especially inside the redzone. Zeke was a different player in the 2nd half of the season
 
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