Twitter: Dak had football field built at his home

OmerV said:

You’re still creating complaints on a media report about practices from 1-2 years ago, and that delay in a practice TD last TC was followed by a season where he was I believe 3rd or 4th in the NFL in TD passes

I’m not saying all is perfect with Dak, but this is working too hard to dig up a complaint.

The only real concern was some inconsistency with Dak and the offense as a whole last season. If that doesn’t straighten out there is something to talk about,but if it does I don’t care if he missed some open receivers in training camp in 2017 or 2018

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The inconsistency was we couldn’t score against good defenses, we were 17th in red zone scoring and 22nd on the road, we were 1-7 when Dak threw over 40 times a game, a lot of his yardage was nothing but stat-padding, we lost all our games when trailing at half-time and so on. Dak’s problems such as throwing with his arm and off his back foot manifested itself again, his timing bring off, Dak can’t throw from the five to seven step drop which limits the play calling and so on.

It does matter that a QB can’t hit open WRs consistently in practice for three years and it’s some cause for celebration when he does. It affects timing and the offense has to be simplified and WRs are constantly having to adjust for him.

The fact is, like I stated, this has been a problem with Dak his whole career and shows how he holds the offense back and Dallas has spent 4 years “training” this guy like Jason Garrett. The limitations are HIS, not the coaching even if the play-callers were average. Even Jerry and Dallas admitted this in multiple ways including how much Dak stunk when Zeke was suspended.

There are plenty of people in this thread trying to elevate this mediocre QB over Romo with their false narratives, including “Dak’s practice habits” which is further exemplified supposedly because he built a football field in his backyard, all the while Dak couldn’t hit wide-open WRs pretty much his whole career in practice, he’s been known for not practicing well, so me “creating complaints” is more than relevant.

The fact is HIS practicing DOES affect the team, even if the TALENT level was able to overcome it to a limited extent. That’s why Cooper’s numbers are traditionally so good against man, but non-existent against zone. We see it all the time in Dak’s timing and when he has to throw against zone coverages.

rocyaice said:

But you do have enough common sense to know that Dak being found not guilty for a DUI is much different than two cases where people murdered someone though right? Or maybe you don't.....

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So basically you are looking for excuses out of your failed argument. Not only do you consistently contradict yourself, your analogies don’t even make sense, because, if people be ruled not-guilty in court, it would be even easier for a person to be ruled not guilty because of a DUI...

And the fact is, you continuing to try and engage this argument, while calling me a liar, is now seriously laughable when Dak himself admitted he was driving drunk and everything I stated about Dak and his ‘squeaky’ clean image were facts and these false narratives to prop up Dak at the expense of Romo and Cabo and not taking practice seriously, especially when Dak can’t even hit WRs that are wide-open in practice consistently, are literally a joke and nothing but delusional.

The claim about Dallas starting position as an excuse for Dak is further, a joke.

1. Again, 17th in the red zone and 22nd on the road. The problems of scoring were when we were on the opponents 20.

2. It’s not statistically even relevant that our average drive was starting at the 26 as opposed to around 27, which is the league average. That’s a difference if one yard. The best team in the league started at around 30-31 on average, again not statistically relevant, especially when you are trying to use Dak’s passing yards as some indicator of how ‘good’ he was and how many attempts he took.

khiladi said:

The inconsistency was we couldn’t score against good defenses, we were 17th in red zone scoring and 22nd on the road, we were 1-7 when Dak threw over 40 times a game, a lot of his yardage was nothing but stat-padding, we lost all our games when trailing at half-time and so on. Dak’s problems such as throwing with his arm and off his back foot manifested itself again, his timing bring off, Dak can’t throw from the five to seven step drop which limits the play calling and so on.

It does matter that a QB can’t hit open WRs consistently in practice for three years and it’s some cause for celebration when he does. It affects timing and the offense has to be simplified and WRs are constantly having to adjust for him.

The fact is, like I stated, this has been a problem with Dak his whole career and shows how he holds the offense back and Dallas has spent 4 years “training” this guy like Jason Garrett. The limitations are HIS, not the coaching even if the play-callers were average.

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I said they had inconsistencies last year and you are arguing with me by saying they had inconsistencies last year?

And, again, if those practice inconsistencies were 2+ years ago, and never manifested in games, why are you still making a big deal out of it?

And, while I don't doubt there could have been some training camp inconsistencies in the past, were they ever as bad as you seem to think? Was it really "can't hit the broadside of a barn" bad, or "the offense can't even practice well enough to work on things" bad? Keep in mind Broaddus is media, and trying to sell himself to a fanbase eager for any soap opera it can sink it's teeth into. What you are doing here proves it works - all the media has to do is dangle a hook and some fans will bite down on it with all the enthusiasm they can muster.

Again, if the offense can smooth out those game day inconsistencies from last year, which, by the way, were not all on Dak, and were not a problem the bulk of the last 4 years, who cares if Dak didn't hit receivers as consistently as desired in training camp 2+ years ago?

What matters is now, and if those game day inconsistencies persist this year the team will have to look at the entire offense, including Dak.

OmerV said:

I said they had inconsistencies last year and you are arguing with me by saying they had inconsistencies last year?

And, again, if those practice inconsistencies were 2+ years ago, and never manifested in games, why are you still making a big deal out of it?

And, while I don't doubt there could have been some training camp inconsistencies in the past, were they ever as bad as you seem to think? Was it really "can't hit the broadside of a barn" bad, or "the offense can't even practice well enough to work on things" bad? Keep in mind Broaddus is media, and trying to sell himself to a fanbase eager for any soap opera it can sink it's teeth into. What you are doing here proves it works - all the media has to do is dangle a hook and some fans will bite down on it with all the enthusiasm they can muster.

Again, if the offense can smooth out those game day inconsistencies from last year, which, by the way, were not all on Dak, and were not a problem the bulk of the last 4 years, who cares if Dak didn't hit receivers as consistently as desired in training camp 2+ years ago?

What matters is now, and if those game day inconsistencies persist this year the team will have to look at the entire offense, including Dak.

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Again, you are responding to MY POST and my comments about 2019 and what I was referring to here. You are ARGUING with me, about why it should matter when a majority of this thread and I am talking about how Dak is being compared to Romo.

And again, THEY DID manifest in games. I said that clearly in my post. What do you think I was talking about when I mentioned timing with WRs and Dak against zone and so on which always flare up, including past season as the year progressed.

And like I also said in this same thread that the only questions on offense this year with the addition of Lamb is Dak and our Center and if he doesn’t perform in this offense, with all the speed and weapons and OL and RG, he’s done here. He has no excuse. All the excuses have been exhausted for him as is evident, including Dallas and the FO catering room his slow development.

And practice is an issue for Dak, when he starts blaming the offenses struggles last year on his teammates, other than Zeke, Witten and himself practice hard. There is irony in here that a guy who has been known to be absolutely mediocre in practice and a ‘leader’ is blaming his teammates for the offense’s struggles during the season, when times get tough.

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/phi...wboys-dak-prescott-carson-wentz-20191017.html

It’s a mess of their own making, said Prescott. The team is too deep to be derailed by injuries. There are no excuses for penalties and drops. He spent this week demanding better focus; demanding that they prepare more like running back Ezekiel Elliott, tight end Jason Witten, and, of course, him.

“I always practice hard. More individuals need to do that,” Prescott said. “Just from the outlook of it, just from my eye, I think they do.”

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khiladi said:

Again, you are responding to MY POST and my comments about 2019 and what I was referring to here. You are ARGUING with me, about why it should matter when a majority of this thread and I am talking about how Dak is being compared to Romo.

And again, THEY DID manifest in games. I said that clearly in my post. What do you think I was talking about when I mentioned timing with WRs and Dak against zone and so on which always flare up, including past season as the year progressed.

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Funny how you area all on board with Broaddus when he says Dak had problems hitting receivers in practice, but reject Broaddus when he says it didn't show up in games.

As for Romo, first, you actually are complaining about Dak and not just in the context of how he stacked up against Romo. Second, you are still talking about practices. And who cares? It's past history. Both Romo and Dak had issues at times, especially early in Romo's career, and both had successes, and at least through the early part of Dak's career the Cowboys have stalled in the playoffs like they did when Romo was QB. Whether they were identical in how they practiced doesn't have any significance.

khiladi said:

And practice is an issue for Dak, when he starts blaming the offenses struggles last year on his teammates, other than Zeke, Witten and himself practice hard. There is irony in here that a guy who has been known to be absolutely mediocre in practice and a ‘leader’ is blaming his teammates for the offense’s struggles during the season, when times get tough.

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/phi...wboys-dak-prescott-carson-wentz-20191017.html

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lol, another example of how you buy into what the media says when it suits you, but with this article - yes the one you posted here, you reject the fact that it indicates Dak is showing leadership? Why the cherry picking of when to buy into what with media reports if not to promote an agenda?

OmerV said:

Funny how you area all on board with Broaddus when he says Dak had problems hitting receivers in practice, but reject Broaddus when he says it didn't show up in games.

As for Romo, first, you actually are complaining about Dak and not just in the context of how he stacked up against Romo. Second, you are still talking about practices. And who cares? It's past history. Both Romo and Dak had issues at times, especially early in Romo's career, and both had successes, and at least through the early part of Dak's career the Cowboys have stalled in the playoffs like they did when Romo was QB. Whether they were identical in how they practiced doesn't have any significance.

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Again, there are MULTIPLE people discussing this in this thread. That is why I am talking about these issues. Why is it you continue with this?

OmerV said:

lol, another example of how you buy into what the media says when it suits you, but with this article - yes the one you posted here, you reject the fact that it indicates Dak is showing leadership? Why the cherry picking of when to buy into what with media reports if not to promote an agenda?

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Again, the FACT is Dak struggles in practice and has been known to struggle in practice. Those are the facts and me quoting from the media demonstrates the facts irrespective of the author’s interpretation of them.

khiladi said:

Again, there are MULTIPLE people discussing this in this thread. That is why I am talking about these issues. Why is it you continue with this?

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So, when you make posts directed at me you are really making posts directed at others and pretending the apply to what I said? lol

khiladi said:

Again, the FACT is Dak struggles in practice and has been known to struggle in practice. Those are the facts and me quoting from the media demonstrates the facts irrespective of the author’s interpretation of them.

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And, the report you based this on was from July of 2019 where it was said Dak was no longer having that issue, so you are harping on something that, if you believe the media, was from 2018 and before, and that we can't really say was ever the major, prevent the offense from progressing type of issue you make it out to be anyway.

And, again, you buy into what a media report says when it suits you, and reject what a media report says when it doesn't. That shows an agenda, not a fair minded look.

OmerV said:

So, when you make posts directed at me you are really making posts directed at others and pretending the apply to what I said? lol

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Again, YOU made a post DIRECTED at me which was totally irrelevant to what was being discussed in this thread.

My post was relevant to the topic of this thread and my addressing your post is correcting your shifting of the topic with “why should it matter if he can hit wide open WRs now in practice” and yet, here we are..

OmerV said:

And, the report you based this on was from July of 2019 where it was said Dak was no longer having that issue, so you are harping on something that, if you believe the media, was from 2018 and before, and that we can't really say was ever the major, prevent the offense from progressing type of issue you make it out to be anyway.

And, again, you buy into what a media report says when it suits you, and reject what a media report says when it doesn't. That shows an agenda, not a fair minded look.

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Of course I have an agenda, just like Dak supporters have an agenda. What is relevant here is whether my post and your post is relevant to the thread at hand. You are responding to my post, I wasn’t responding to you. I corrected you by telling you what I was talking about, but here you are asking me why it should matter if it’s 2019... So here we are, with you again trying to shift topics as if that’s what I was talking about.

Like I said, Dak’s weaknesses continue to manifest itself in games, despite all the talent surrounding him. I’m correcting what I believe are false narratives in thread. I believe we wasted four years with this mediocre QB in a tight Sb window and the “training” of Dak is remarkably similar to the “training“ of Garrett here.. And now people are trying to use the Garrett excuse for Dak, when Garrett hasn’t even touched the offense since 2014..,

khiladi said:

The claim about Dallas starting position as an excuse for Dak is further, a joke.

1. Again, 17th in the red zone and 22nd on the road. The problems of scoring were when we were on the opponents 20.

2. It’s not statistically even relevant that our average drive was starting at the 26 as opposed to around 27, which is the league average. That’s a difference if one yard. The best team in the league started at around 30-31 on average, again not statistically relevant, especially when you are trying to use Dak’s passing yards as some indicator of how ‘good’ he was and how many attempts he took.

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You haters are so entertaining. Ignorant obviously but entertaining.

khiladi said:

Again, YOU made a post DIRECTED at me which was totally irrelevant to what was being discussed in this thread.

My post was relevant to the topic of this thread and my addressing your post is correcting your shifting of the topic with “why should it matter if he can hit wide open WRs now in practice” and yet, here we are..

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How, exactly, is responding to your words irrelevant to what was being discussed? Were the words you wrote irrelevant? If not, how can responding to them be irrelevant? I think you just don't like it being shown you are being unfairly narrow minded, and that's why you want to dismiss what I've said.

OmerV said:

How, exactly, is responding to your words irrelevant to what was being discussed? Were the words you wrote irrelevant? If not, how can responding to them be irrelevant? I think you just don't like it being shown you are being unfairly narrow minded, and that's why you want to dismiss what I've said.

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You responding doesn’t make what you said relevant to what I was talking about. Again, you just continue nonsensically even after I told you and clarified to you with multiple examples of how what you stated is not relevant to the topic.

And even then, I took the time out to respond to you that Dak’s practicing does affect the team, such as us timing of the WRs. It manifested itself this year as well.

khiladi said:

Of course I have an agenda, just like Dak supporters have an agenda. What is relevant here is whether my post and your post is relevant to the thread at hand. You are responding to my post, I wasn’t responding to you. I corrected you by telling you what I was talking about, but here you are asking me why it should matter if it’s 2019... So here we are, with you again trying to shift topics as if that’s what I was talking about.

Like I said, Dak’s weaknesses continue to manifest itself in games, despite all the talent surrounding him. I’m correcting what I believe are false narratives in thread.

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An "agenda" is not fair minded, so why would anyone take you seriously. That's different than an opinion which can be formed from a fair minded review of the relevant info, but an agenda is focusing only on what makes your case without regard for other sides or facts

OmerV said:

An "agenda" is not fair minded, so why would anyone take you seriously. That's different than an opinion which can be formed from a fair minded review of the relevant info, but an agenda is focusing only on what makes your case without regard for other sides or facts

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My agenda can be in accordance with the facts. Again, you are arguing nonsensically not providing facts, while I am providing facts. Your agenda here is to try and nit pick even when I post articles that establish clear facts, such as Dak sucking at practice for this long. You then say I’m biased because the author interpreted it as a sign of leadership, even though we know Dak has sucked at practice for the majority of his career. And so on...

Even today Moore is limited by Dak’s inability to throw as a traditional drop back passer and we operated exclusively out of shotgun or play action, and if we do operate out of center it’s 1-3 step drops. And we do this in a Coryell offense that is traditionally deeper routes.

This idea the offense hasn’t been tailored to Dak is literally a joke. Garrett almost never used play action, Romo was traditionally dropping back in 5 and 7 step drops and so on. Both Linehan andMore have gone almost exclusively to shotgun and play-action when under Center.