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First he said they would keep the verbiage Moore was using and then he said they would keep some of it. The next thing he says it it is a new offense and now he's walking that back and I can only assume the conditions that he has to work under have caused him to be very fluid and it is most fortuitous for him to have brought Moore back.

With limited prep time, it is better for him to tweak and see where he can improve this offense so it fares better against the better teams than to bring in a new one.

This was the #1 O last season but that ranking does not tell us how it ranked in the 8 losses against the 8 wins, that's the real story.
I think you will see mostly the same verbiage but adjustments to routes. I think some totally new routes but use a prior verbiage for some of it
His idea is its easier to teach a handful on the staff than 20 or so of the players
And he will build on that as we go
There aren’t many new routes a guy can call
But you can change the combinations of routes in a play.
 

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So you believe a whiny butt selfish player in AR over a HC that helped the TEAM to a SB?
Yeah let’s see how he does this year. I think he is about done. He can’t do all he did years ago and blames others when things don’t go his way. He threw MM under the bus and had thrown his team mates under the bus also.
 

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I think you will see mostly the same verbiage but adjustments to routes. I think some totally new routes but use a prior verbiage for some of it
His idea is its easier to teach a handful on the staff than 20 or so of the players
And he will build on that as we go
There aren’t many new routes a guy can call
But you can change the combinations of routes in a play.

With Lamb in there now, we should see some new 3 WR sets, maybe not a lot of new plays, but there will be some.
Would love to see a bunch set with Lamb, Gallup and Cooper.
 

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With Lamb in there now, we should see some new 3 WR sets, maybe not a lot of new plays, but there will be some.
Would love to see a bunch set with Lamb, Gallup and Cooper.
The options are exciting
Lamb adds so much
Gallup has improved each year so he should be better and I think some of that comes from a great route guy influencing him and lamb can learn from that
I love what we have out of the backfield in the pass game too
And we have transitioned the TE spot some with a guy who can run up the field better
 

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I will never understand this. McCarthy's expertise is offense its his whole life in coaching.

He was fired then embarrassed by rodgers and he spends a year studying like every team and every player so he says. He has a group of other coaches and they are studying schemes, trends etc....

Then he goes through the interview process and it looks like he has a few jobs to pick from and He ends up choosing Dallas.

Then one of the first things he does is keep Kellen Moore and says he will call plays so Dak doesn't have to learn a new offense.

None of this makes sense to me. Mccarthy has this chance to rebound his career and be considered among the best of the best in head coaches like his record says he is. Yet he is giving up Play Calling and running a different offense? again, this makes no sense.

McCarthy played in a small market where everyone loves everything the team does, no matter how good they were or how many criminals they had on the packers they were going to be treated like america's sweethearts and underdogs....now he is in the division with the top tv markets, a more demanding fan base that will turn on him 100% its just a matter of time and everything he does will be scrutinized incessantly.

So if you are trying to prove you are a great coach, your career is in offense, you spent a full year studying offenses and you are on record as saying that you should call your own plays then what is going on here? Dak is in his 5th year and they are about to give him more money than anyone else why cant he learn McCarthy's offense since mcCarthy will be here at least the length of his contract?

the only think I can compare it to is Parcells liking Zimmer and realizing there was talent on defense and he didn't want to shake it up that first year because there was so much other work to be done. The comparison doesn't really line up though because Dallas has the personnel to run any offense and back then the cowboys were way to small to play the 3-4 Parcells wanted.

I don't know I just don't get it.
 

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We were #1 ranked in yards. But couldn’t put up points. So many drives from deep in our territory. Missed FG or drive ending penalties or poor execution. Bad passes or dropped passes.
You are describing the difference between a mediocre team and and a good one, a poorly coached team and a well coached one.

Wasn't it Garrett that had that Focus, Finish! and Finish the Fight! as his slogans? He should have simplified it to "Just do your job".

What has been the discipline for any player not giving 100%?

All comes back to how a team is built. You can go stars and nobodies or you can focus on all 53 and try to have a capable backup to put pressure on the starter to perform. Malcolm Butler learned that the hard way. No question about who runs the team up there.
 

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So you believe a whiny butt selfish player in AR over a HC that helped the TEAM to a SB?
Just pointing out view points and as for who helped who that again is a point of view. Who did GB keep that SB HC or the SB QB you can read between the lines. Looks like one organization choose the butt whinny QB over the SB coach only time will tell. Who was in that championship game last year????????
 

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Mike McCarthy: I'm the one who has the most to learn in Cowboys' offense - ProFootballTalk

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New Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy says he has more work to do in learning the offense the team already runs than the team has to learn the offense McCarthy prefers. Although McCarthy will obviously make some changes to the Cowboys' offense, he has retained offensive coordinator Kellen Moore and said his top priority is [more]

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What's he looking to learn how NOT to score for the first 3 Quarters against good defenses????:omg:
 

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Just pointing out view points and as for who helped who that again is a point of view. Who did GB keep that SB HC or the SB QB you can read between the lines. Looks like one organization choose the butt whinny QB over the SB coach only time will tell. Who was in that championship game last year????????

With the salary cap it is easier to keep the player and dump the coach. Especially if they are looking for a scapegoat.
 

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Does that apply to JG also?????

JG needed to go, and Dak was making peanuts compared to was he is getting now for this year. No similarities at all.

Not sure but how many here would have chosen to dump Dak and keep Garrett. :laugh:
Hmmm. should have been a poll. :muttley:
 

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We will not know what type of offense the team is running until we play games. MM is not going to tell reporters what he is going to do. He wants other teams to think we are still running Garrett’s offense. Same with the defense. It will take at least 4 games to know what we do best as a team. Believe me the Cowboys have a plan and it will be executed. Dumb Stephen tried to spill the beans on Dak working with players at his home. You know Zeke brought the play book to the workouts. The unknown will work in our favor.

He mentioned that he liked what Shannahan was doing in San Fran and I really think that is the most optimal offense for our players.

Zeke in a Shannahan run scheme would go bonkers.
 

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JG needed to go, and Dak was making peanuts compared to was he is getting now for this year. No similarities at all.

Not sure but how many here would have chosen to dump Dak and keep Garrett. :laugh:
Hmmm. should have been a poll. :muttley:
JG need to go no doubt but my point was the QB had more upside other wise you keep the guru coach, Craft would dump Brady before BB any day and twice on Sunday. We will find out if it was MM or AR and if JG was the reason or if it is Dak.
 

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JG need to go no doubt but my point was the QB had more upside other wise you keep the guru coach, Craft would dump Brady before BB any day and twice on Sunday. We will find out if it was MM or AR and if JG was the reason or if it is Dak.

All of those situations will be interesting for sure. I think what will help Dak more than anything, is if the defense and ST's improve enough to have better field position. Or if they get a lead, the defense can keep or help keep it.

Also will Mahomes have a SB hangover, will the team. How will Lamar Jackson do after his MVP season. The thing there is, both have great coaching and FO's so I do not see a drop off for either.
 

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I will never understand this. McCarthy's expertise is offense its his whole life in coaching.

He was fired then embarrassed by rodgers and he spends a year studying like every team and every player so he says. He has a group of other coaches and they are studying schemes, trends etc....

Then he goes through the interview process and it looks like he has a few jobs to pick from and He ends up choosing Dallas.

Then one of the first things he does is keep Kellen Moore and says he will call plays so Dak doesn't have to learn a new offense.

None of this makes sense to me. Mccarthy has this chance to rebound his career and be considered among the best of the best in head coaches like his record says he is. Yet he is giving up Play Calling and running a different offense? again, this makes no sense.

McCarthy played in a small market where everyone loves everything the team does, no matter how good they were or how many criminals they had on the packers they were going to be treated like america's sweethearts and underdogs....now he is in the division with the top tv markets, a more demanding fan base that will turn on him 100% its just a matter of time and everything he does will be scrutinized incessantly.

So if you are trying to prove you are a great coach, your career is in offense, you spent a full year studying offenses and you are on record as saying that you should call your own plays then what is going on here? Dak is in his 5th year and they are about to give him more money than anyone else why cant he learn McCarthy's offense since mcCarthy will be here at least the length of his contract?

the only think I can compare it to is Parcells liking Zimmer and realizing there was talent on defense and he didn't want to shake it up that first year because there was so much other work to be done. The comparison doesn't really line up though because Dallas has the personnel to run any offense and back then the cowboys were way to small to play the 3-4 Parcells wanted.

I don't know I just don't get it.

Under the circumstances it's probably better that they didn't change the offense with so little time to work together this off season. But as you noted the decision to not change the offense was made before anyone knew mini camps would be cancelled, OTAs limited, etc..
 

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He mentioned that he liked what Shannahan was doing in San Fran and I really think that is the most optimal offense for our players.

Zeke in a Shannahan run scheme would go bonkers.
Except we have 3 top flight receivers and a 30+ million dollar quarterback. Jerrah would lose his mind if Dak passed for only 90 yards in a playoff game.
 

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JG need to go no doubt but my point was the QB had more upside other wise you keep the guru coach, Craft would dump Brady before BB any day and twice on Sunday. We will find out if it was MM or AR and if JG was the reason or if it is Dak.


Lol Rodgers went to an NFC Championship last year.

Packers were better without McCarthy. They made the right move.


Hopefully all of those things McCarthy spoke about were real and he isn’t going to be a stubborn coach that refuses to change. That is not what we need.
 

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I think you will see mostly the same verbiage but adjustments to routes. I think some totally new routes but use a prior verbiage for some of it
His idea is its easier to teach a handful on the staff than 20 or so of the players
And he will build on that as we go
There aren’t many new routes a guy can call
But you can change the combinations of routes in a play.

Think you're exactly right .........interesting you say this. During MM Peter King interview ( before he was hired ) he actually used a couple of Cowboys plays to show he could tweak one play and run it several dif ways.
 

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Lol Rodgers went to an NFC Championship last year.

Packers were better without McCarthy. They made the right move.


Hopefully all of those things McCarthy spoke about were real and he isn’t going to be a stubborn coach that refuses to change. That is not what we need.

While this is true........lets not forget, the Packs also used their 1st round pick on a QB. Hell, Rogers just said this past week, he's only concerned about THIS season, that's all he can control. Point is maybe it was both Rogers AND MM. That's not to say either one is done. Just the Packs wanna move another direction.......
 

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I have no doubt Moore and mac are working together on terminology. It would be naive to think they are not.
 
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