Twitter: Todd France and CAA part ways

cern · Aug 9, 2020

CouchCoach said:
The Prescott deal is being painted as the one that broke France/CAA apart and we have no idea. Both parties have handled larger deals and CCA isn't going to have to start stockpiling cans of beans and bags of rice because they don't have Prescott.

Red beans and rice wouldn't be bad.

SteveTheCowboy · Aug 9, 2020

SackMaster said:
I don't think people comprehend the complexity of a pro sports contract.

Just go listen to Patrick Mahomes and what he can not do while under contract for the next 12+ years to start understanding a fraction of what is included besides the money.

When you commit that hard to what you do...it's not as big a deal as what you think.

Oh I can;t ride a motorcycle.
Oh...I can;t go downhill skiing.
Oh....I can;t xxxx'

Cashes 100 million check. derp.

CouchCoach · Aug 9, 2020

cern said:
Red beans and rice wouldn't be bad.

Not canned, no can do. Gotta be the real deal, with some andouille and jalapeno cornbread.

Hawkeye0202 · Aug 9, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Hopefully they are done blinking..

Dak is not worth what he is asking and thankfully they didn’t give it.

Most of these guys getting huge deals have teams going to or winning Superbowls when they are on rookie deals.

Dallas should pressure him to take a 28 -30 million dollar a year deal that goes void if he gets to a Super Bowl. I’d even settle for a NFC championship void.

You surprise me sometimes ......... :huh:

cern · Aug 9, 2020

Dak wants to be a good guy. He also wants a mega deal. Why shouldn't he. He doesn't want to be labeled a fool for taking a home discount offer. Ergo, the need for a tough agent.

Flamma · Aug 9, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
When you commit that hard to what you do...it's not as big a deal as what you think.

Oh I can;t ride a motorcycle.
Oh...I can;t go downhill skiing.
Oh....I can;t xxxx'

Cashes 100 million check. derp.

He said it's just about every activity you can think of. But as far as I see it, no one can stop him. Unless he has a serious injury as a result, what are they going to do?

kskboys · Aug 9, 2020

eromeopolk said:
Does not matter or effect anything going forward. Dak Prescott $31.5M guaranteed salary is the highest of any QB salary per cap and 4th highest for cash spent for a QB in 2020.

Todd France or CAA really was negotiating years only and Jerry/Stephen wanted longer. Todd France got Tannehill his money $6.1M more than Dak for cash spent in 2020. Therefore, I do not thing money was the problem.

Therefore, we will see what CAA or France does for Prescott in 2021.

If France was really negotiating years only, he might be the worst agent in history. That's so inane it makes zero sense.
It would be weird if France remains his agent.

cern · Aug 9, 2020

CouchCoach said:
Not canned, no can do. Gotta be the real deal, with some andouille and jalapeno cornbread.

Canned beans are for the lazy. I prefer mine cooked in terra cotta pots. Andouille and tasso. A staple on the ranch during hunting season.

kskboys · Aug 9, 2020

cern said:
Dak wants to be a good guy. He also wants a mega deal. Why shouldn't he. He doesn't want to be labeled a fool for taking a home discount offer. Ergo, the need for a tough agent.

Disagree. France is not a tough agent, he's a saboteur, a blackmailer. A tough agent would've gotten a deal done.

cern · Aug 9, 2020

kskboys said:
Disagree. France is not a tough agent, he's a saboteur, a blackmailer. A tough agent would've gotten a deal done.

I said a tough agent. I didn't mention any names. Personally, i think he blew this deal. He underestimated stephen's resoluteness. He didn't get the pie.

Hawkeye0202 · Aug 9, 2020

I agree with this guy.........sounds like France was fired.

https://thelandryhat.com/2020/08/09/dallas-cowboys-dak-prescotts-agent-decision/

Dak Prescott’s agent decision could affect the Dallas Cowboys

by Angel Torres3 minutes ago
This news could affect contract negotiations between the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott
Like you, I was done talking about quarterback Dak Prescott‘s contract situation. But leave it to the Dallas Cowboys to always be in the news for one reason or another. It’s now been reported that Prescott’s super-agent, Todd France, and Creative Artists Agency (CAA) have mutually parted ways.

This is a typical end of week bombshell that is designed at downplaying the gravity of the situation by allowing it to dilute over the weekend. The ripple effect this could have on negotiations might determine the length and money the Cowboys will eventually payout.

There little doubt the contract numbers Prescott will likely ask for will be astronomical compared to where everyone believed they would be merely a year ago. But this departure between France and CAA could be exactly the type of break the Cowboys’ front office needed.

Did France hold the Cowboys at ransom during contract negotiations? It appeared that way to me and many other fans. Widening the spectrum and realizing that two other franchised tagged NFL players that France manages also didn’t get deals done with their current team makes me wonder just how hard of a bargain he drives.

Pittsburgh Steelers pass rusher Bud Dupree and Denver Broncos safety Justin Simmons, both of whom are both France clients, also had difficulties coming to terms with their teams. This begs the question of their teams are simply done playing games with this super agent.

Interesting article here........

http://sportsagentblog.com/2020/08/08/nfl-agent-todd-france-and-caa-mutually-part-ways/

CouchCoach · Aug 9, 2020

Well, I am glad they didn't get a deal done and now we get to see a QB on a tag for only the 3rd time and he is a QB that is as polarizing among the fans as much as Romo so what's not to like about this?

If those pissed that he didn't get the long term deal are upset because it could cost more to do a deal next year, so what? If they want to do a deal then he will have proven to more people that he can be the franchise QB. And don't act like the lack of cap space is what limits this brain trust, it is the mismanagement of that cap that creates that.

And those on the other side of this. The QB, the one you don't like, will have gone back to back on prove it deals for the first time in Cowboys history, I'd say if he passes that test, he deserves the big bucks.

Jake · Aug 9, 2020

ninja said:
Dak didn't even need an agent. How hard could the negotiations have been? I could have negotiated myself. $50M Signing Bonus, $75M guaranteed, 5 year $150M plus whatever standard incentives Jerry and Stephen want to include.

Done. And no agent fees.

It honestly would have taken me one minute to strike a deal with Jerry and Stephen.

I know Romo was pleased with your work.

Swagger · Aug 9, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
I agree with this guy.........sounds like France was fired.

https://thelandryhat.com/2020/08/09/dallas-cowboys-dak-prescotts-agent-decision/

Dak Prescott’s agent decision could affect the Dallas Cowboys

by Angel Torres3 minutes ago
This news could affect contract negotiations between the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott
Like you, I was done talking about quarterback Dak Prescott‘s contract situation. But leave it to the Dallas Cowboys to always be in the news for one reason or another. It’s now been reported that Prescott’s super-agent, Todd France, and Creative Artists Agency (CAA) have mutually parted ways.

This is a typical end of week bombshell that is designed at downplaying the gravity of the situation by allowing it to dilute over the weekend. The ripple effect this could have on negotiations might determine the length and money the Cowboys will eventually payout.

There little doubt the contract numbers Prescott will likely ask for will be astronomical compared to where everyone believed they would be merely a year ago. But this departure between France and CAA could be exactly the type of break the Cowboys’ front office needed.

Did France hold the Cowboys at ransom during contract negotiations? It appeared that way to me and many other fans. Widening the spectrum and realizing that two other franchised tagged NFL players that France manages also didn’t get deals done with their current team makes me wonder just how hard of a bargain he drives.

Pittsburgh Steelers pass rusher Bud Dupree and Denver Broncos safety Justin Simmons, both of whom are both France clients, also had difficulties coming to terms with their teams. This begs the question of their teams are simply done playing games with this super agent.

Interesting article here........

http://sportsagentblog.com/2020/08/08/nfl-agent-todd-france-and-caa-mutually-part-ways/

I did say who would trust a deal of this magnitude with a place kicker in the Arena football league. The guy is a charlatan.

Any of us could have got Tannehill paid with a similar deal. The Titans almost reached the Superbowl winning away to the Ravens and the Patriots and importantly changed the fortunes of their offense during the regular season.

The Chargers have a rookie QB and are able to overpay for a top 5 first round pick.

Hilarious how France was unable to get this deal done and once again credit to the front office for not caving in.

kskboys · Aug 9, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
I agree with this guy.........sounds like France was fired.

https://thelandryhat.com/2020/08/09/dallas-cowboys-dak-prescotts-agent-decision/

Dak Prescott’s agent decision could affect the Dallas Cowboys

by Angel Torres3 minutes ago
This news could affect contract negotiations between the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott
Like you, I was done talking about quarterback Dak Prescott‘s contract situation. But leave it to the Dallas Cowboys to always be in the news for one reason or another. It’s now been reported that Prescott’s super-agent, Todd France, and Creative Artists Agency (CAA) have mutually parted ways.

This is a typical end of week bombshell that is designed at downplaying the gravity of the situation by allowing it to dilute over the weekend. The ripple effect this could have on negotiations might determine the length and money the Cowboys will eventually payout.

There little doubt the contract numbers Prescott will likely ask for will be astronomical compared to where everyone believed they would be merely a year ago. But this departure between France and CAA could be exactly the type of break the Cowboys’ front office needed.

Did France hold the Cowboys at ransom during contract negotiations? It appeared that way to me and many other fans. Widening the spectrum and realizing that two other franchised tagged NFL players that France manages also didn’t get deals done with their current team makes me wonder just how hard of a bargain he drives.

Pittsburgh Steelers pass rusher Bud Dupree and Denver Broncos safety Justin Simmons, both of whom are both France clients, also had difficulties coming to terms with their teams. This begs the question of their teams are simply done playing games with this super agent.

Interesting article here........

http://sportsagentblog.com/2020/08/08/nfl-agent-todd-france-and-caa-mutually-part-ways/

Looks that way to me also.

Hey, I understand bargaining and getting what you can and all that. However, there's a point where you're just asking too much and that becomes a detriment to the guy you are representing.

Swagger · Aug 9, 2020

AmericanCowboy said:
I would negotiate myself, pay a team of lawyers 10K to look it over. Done. Easy peasy.

Completely agree and I stated the same in another thread. I'm surprised given that Prescott seems to have his head screwed on - why instruct a parasite to dictate his future. He should have backed himself but it seems like he will have another chance to do so. The front office is old school. They much prefer having direct dialogue with the player in these type of negotiations.

kskboys · Aug 9, 2020

Swagger said:
Completely agree and I stated the same in another thread. I'm surprised given that Prescott seems to have his head screwed on - why instruct a parasite to dictate his future. He should have backed himself but it seems like he will have another chance to do so. The front office is old school. They much prefer having direct dialogue with the player in these type of negotiations.

Sure disappointed me. I had thought a lot of him before this clusterfudge, where Dak and his agent pretty much refused to negotiate.

Corso · Aug 9, 2020

cern said:
Canned beans are for the lazy. I prefer mine cooked in terra cotta pots. Andouille and tasso. A staple on the ranch during hunting season.

Slow cooking in terra cotta is amazing. I make Pho in them and... I have no words for the yumminess.
Maybe yumminess.

cern · Aug 9, 2020

Corso said:
Slow cooking in terra cotta is amazing. I make Pho in them and... I have no words for the yumminess.
Maybe yumminess.

I'm with you bro. Never tried pho in them, but it sounds like a great idea. Pollo al ajillo was made for the cazuela.

ABQCOWBOY · Aug 9, 2020

88sAndHeartbreak said:
So Dak parts ways with an agent who is known to set the market with his clients. Yet some how Dak is greedy... interesting.

Has Dak actually parted ways? I haven't read the entire thread yet but to this point, I haven't seen anything that confirms he has.

Twitter: Todd France and CAA part ways

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Offseason mode... sleepy time

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