Dak career record vs winning teams vs Brees, Wentz and Roger

DogFace · Aug 9, 2020

DakPresgoat said:
This has been posted before. It won’t change the opinions of those who don’t care about facts.

Great post. People deserve, and need, to read that again.

glimmerman · Aug 9, 2020

Mr_C said:
Great post. People deserve, and need, to read that again.

People look at him and say he don’t pass there eye test and that’s why they don’t like him. What eyes are they using. The facts and stats don’t lie. Now they dont tell everything, he has some improving to do but he also seems to get better every year.

Flamma · Aug 9, 2020

ghst187 said:
in all honesty, the Saints had no biz beating Manning for Brees only ring either...
Trent Dilfer has a ring too. Eli Manning has two. Wentz didn’t even play in the post season to get his...

I don't see how the Saints/Colts Super Bowl fits in with the rest. I won a lot of money believing the Saints were going to win. I used to be a heavy gambler and Peyton Manning won me more money by losing in the playoffs than any other player in NFL history.

jazzcat22 · Aug 9, 2020

Jipper said:
Which of those qbs doesn’t have a Super Bowl ring?

And I like dak....but just saying

Which of the teams had a real HC and staff, as well as a better defense?

Jipper · Aug 9, 2020

jazzcat22 said:
Which of the teams had a real HC and staff, as well as a better defense?

that works too...I was being a hit tongue in cheek...

Brax · Aug 9, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
That’s what I thought. You got nothing.

just a troll with nothing. Talk about pathetic? You have this aggressive view point and. Nothing to back it up. Lol

you are one sad fan.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/cowboys-dak-prescott-salvages-day-in-garbage-time/
Just another example, as for aggressive , that is you not me, the name calling starts when you know you are wrong and is really pathetic. I support Dak but I do not blindly believe he is some top tier QB like Dak apologists do. From Daks mouth for you;
""Trash stats'' is the phrase Dallas QB Dak Prescott used, and I've never heard a player say that before. It's an astute admission."
Even Dak knows his numbers are bloated trash. I can't give you anything better than Dak's words. We will see what this year brings but stop with your assortment of Dak excuses, he needs to stand on his own two feet and lead the team deep into the play offs. or he needs to go. If Dak gets paid it will be based on this years results not his stats.

CowboyRoy · Aug 9, 2020

InTheZone said:
offense...obviously. And I'm done answering your trollish questions

Offense is the strength of the team. Very good.

InTheZone said:
offense...obviously. And I'm done answering your trollish questions

Wow, I am shocked. By the way you cut up the offense you would think it was a weakness.

How come you never talk about coaching, defense, or the special teams? I guess your high standards only apply to your agenda?

So then based on your statement that the offense is the strength of the team, how can it be the offense fault that we were 8-8?

CowboyRoy · Aug 9, 2020

Brax said:
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/cowboys-dak-prescott-salvages-day-in-garbage-time/
Just another example, as for aggressive , that is you not me, the name calling starts when you know you are wrong and is really pathetic. I support Dak but I do not blindly believe he is some top tier QB like Dak apologists do. From Daks mouth for you;
""Trash stats'' is the phrase Dallas QB Dak Prescott used, and I've never heard a player say that before. It's an astute admission."
Even Dak knows his numbers are bloated trash. I can't give you anything better than Dak's words. We will see what this year brings but stop with your assortment of Dak excuses, he needs to stand on his own two feet and lead the team deep into the play offs. or he needs to go. If Dak gets paid it will be based on this years results not his stats.

Tell me the poster that thinks that Dak is a top tier QB?

Dak doesn't need excuses. He had his best year last year.

QB's don't lead teams, coaches do. QB's cant play defense, special teams or coach.

And as you stated, offense was the strength of the team last year.

So are you saying that defense, coaching, special teams, don't matter? That a QB should lead any team deep into the playoff regardless of what is around him?

I just want to get this straight.

InTheZone · Aug 9, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Offense is the strength of the team. Very good.

Wow, I am shocked. By the way you cut up the offense you would think it was a weakness.

How come you never talk about coaching, defense, or the special teams? I guess your high standards only apply to your agenda?

So then based on your statement that the offense is the strength of the team, how can it be the offense fault that we were 8-8?

offense has the most money and early round picks put into it by far, I expect them to carry the team. Your agenda has clouded your judgement.

CowboyRoy · Aug 9, 2020

InTheZone said:
offense has the most money and early round picks put into it by far, I expect them to carry the team. Your agenda has clouded your judgement.

I have ZERO agenda. Unless it comes to Zeke, and then I have a big one.

Who do you think carried the team last year the defense? Special teams?

Offense scored 27 points per game average with little help from the defense or special teams.

In case you haven't noticed we have pretty much had a great offense nearly every year for the last 12 years or so and where has that gotten us?

You would think after watching Romo go through it and now Dak that it would be more than obvious the issues with the team. In fact, you would have to be completely blind to not know.

Defense and coaching have been sub standard for most part all the way back to Romo's career. You can throw in special teams last year.

Are you incapable of seeing this?

Brax · Aug 9, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Tell me the poster that thinks that Dak is a top tier QB?]
You and many others and you know the posters.

[Dak doesn't need excuses. He had his best year last year.]
Excuse are the norm and his best statistical year is true helped by skewed stats .

[QB's don't lead teams, coaches do. ]
remember Barry, QBs lead the the O and make all the players better. At this point not so with Dak.

[ QB's cant play defense, special teams or coach.]
Never asked him to but it wasn't the D in some games, it is just another excuse remember those games against better teams

[And as you stated, offense was the strength of the team last year.]
Never said that but against the poor teams no question the O excelled not so much against the good ones that's why 8-8

[So are you saying that defense, coaching, special teams, don't matter? ]
We shall see on coaching, as for ST the O lost more games than the ST.

[That a QB should lead any team deep into the playoff regardless of what is around him?]
Dak has all world talent around him on offense and had great talent last year , how did that work out.

[I just want to get this straight.

see above

CowboyRoy · Aug 9, 2020

Brax said:
see above

Another pathetic lie. Dak is 2nd tier to me. Top 10. Before last year I had him around 12th.

There is only one poster I know that goes over board on Dak and who cares? I laugh at him when he does it.

More comments of yours that lack that key element of credibility. Feel free to show me where I ever said Dak was elite or a top 5 QB.

Until you figure out that coaching, defense, and special teams matter you are going to be useless in any rational football debate.

Another troll that doesn't understand the game.

Hadenough · Aug 9, 2020

InTheZone said:
offense has the most money and early round picks put into it by far, I expect them to carry the team. Your agenda has clouded your judgement.

I totally agree the offense has way too much talent to scored 9 points in the most important games. And went cold for 2.5 quarters of other games.

CowboyRoy · Aug 9, 2020

Brax said:
see above

So tell me...………………..

-How many games did the offense win for us?
-How many games did the offense lose for us?

InTheZone · Aug 9, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
I have ZERO agenda. Unless it comes to Zeke, and then I have a big one.

In case you haven't noticed we have pretty much had a great offense nearly every year for the last 12 years or so and where has that gotten us?

You would think after watching Romo go through it and now Dak that it would be more than obvious the issues with the team. In fact, you would have to be completely blind to not know.

And in case you haven't put them together yet, this is also a major reason why I say don't cave into Daks demands and draft defense early and often. But again, your agenda is clouding your judgement...

edit: Thanks for making my point

blueblood70 · Aug 9, 2020

plasticman said:
I don't recall a single play in which Dak and any of these other quarterbacks were on the field at the same time, competing against each other.

However, during Dak's four seasons in the NFL,

Cowboys 1-1 against Payton and the Saints
5-3 against Pederson and the Eagles
1-2 against McCarthy and the Packers, when you include the playoff game.

Dak, Jason, and the Cowboys were a combined 7-6 against these three teams......placing them 7th among the remaining 29 teams when playing against these coaches during that period of time.

Now, what were we discussing?

so we should bring back Garett? thats all i got from that..what a mistake letting that winner go, actually shares the same record as dak, daks gets 31 mil demands to be the next big shot at 35plus and stays and Garett goes..hmmm

CowboyRoy · Aug 9, 2020

InTheZone said:
And in case you haven't put them together yet, this is also a major reason why I say don't cave into Daks demands and draft defense early and often. But again, your agenda is clouding your judgement...

edit: Thanks for making my point

So get rid of the franchise QB to get defense? :lmao2:

Why so the offense can be more "inconsistent"?

And wait...…….what are Dak's demands? 4 years instead of 5? Shouldn't you want that?

Edit: Thanks for showing again you have no clue what you are talking about

InTheZone · Aug 9, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
So get rid of the franchise QB to get defense? Why so the offense can be more "inconsistent"?

And wait...…….what are Dak's demands? 4 years instead of 5? Shouldn't you want that?

Edit: Thanks for showing again you have no clue what you are talking about

build the defense and we can probably win with any qb, and I don't think Dak is anything special so I'm all for finding a new guy that's much cheaper.

CowboyRoy · Aug 9, 2020

blueblood70 said:
so we should bring back Garett? thats all i got from that..what a mistake letting that winner go, actually shares the same record as dak, daks gets 31 mil demands to be the next big shot at 35plus and stays and Garett goes..hmmm

LOL...…...too confusing to you eh?

How one guy can get fired and the other gets 31 million? How can that be?

When you figure out why let me know. You being a football guru and all this shouldn't take too long. :lmao2:

CowboyRoy · Aug 9, 2020

InTheZone said:
build the defense and we can probably win with any qb, and I don't think Dak is anything special so I'm all for finding a new guy that's much cheaper.

I thought every team needs a Mahomes to win it?

Dak was cheap for 4 years. I don't remember hearing you talk about that.

At least you admit our defense needs to be built. :muttley:

So its either a great defense and a middling QB or Mahomes and a middling defense?

Troll logic at its best.

How about we just improve the defense and get a real HC?

Oh wait...…….that's what we did.

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