Twitter: Dallas finalizing deal with DE Everson Griffen

Cowboyny · Aug 13, 2020

quickccc said:
So Crawford a backup rotation guy on the decline .... is actually gonna make more money dollars for this year than what pro bowl caliber DE and starter Griffen is gonna get ? ... wow, that sounds utterly ridiculous. Just for the sake of Locker room presence and a Covid 19 reserve body ?
...SMH...

You can ask him to take a pay cut, if he balks, they can either keep him at his current salary or give him his outright release. They guessed wrong about the player giving him that type of contract before it was warranted. I guess it will come down to the new coaching staff, if they want to keep him or not.

Cowboyny · Aug 13, 2020

Typhus said:
I try to place a comparison to Griffin, and have thought maybe a better version of Ebenezer Ekuban sp.... ?

We try to refrain talking about that dead period of the franchise after the Aikman era. It' been awhile, don't remember much about Ekuban.

quickccc · Aug 13, 2020

Rayman70 said:
yup, and only 3 mil against this years cap if he misses his incentives. Extremely team friendly.

what was going on In Minny where Griffen chose to opt out of his 5 year 42 million dollar contract, that he received 20 million
guaranteed, ..?

Either he wanted out of Minny so badly that he thought he could recoup a similar contract with another NFL team, or could top what he got
with the Vikes, ..and it gravely backfired on him big time.

Rayman70 · Aug 13, 2020

quickccc said:
what was going on In Minny where Griffen chose to opt out of his 5 year 42 million dollar contract, that he received 20 million
guaranteed, ..?

Either he wanted out of Minny so badly that he thought he could recoup a similar contract with another NFL team, or could top what he got
with the Vikes, ..and it gravely backfired on him big time.

good question, I am not sure.

38 Special · Aug 13, 2020

CTcowboy203 said:
Don’t cut Crawford....you keep him. Having depth is a good problem to have anytime but even more so in a year like this with covid and so much uncertainty. Not to mention it’s not like griffen isn’t without his share of problems -Whose to say him or smith don’t have any off the field issues and we need Crawford.

We will need all the pass rush and run support we need to make life easier for the secondary and rest of the defense

Crawford is making too much to be a reserve. It would cost us an additional $7.25 million to keep him over Dorrance Armstrong. He’s not $7.25 million dollars better.

We’d be better off cutting him and rolling his salary forward. Spend the money on someone better.

Hawkeye0202 · Aug 13, 2020

gimmesix said:
I actually think Aldon is going to be very good, possibly better than Griffen, but the primary option with Gregory not being reinstated would have been to rotate him with Crawford unless one of the young ends stepped up.

I like Crawford more than some on here, but he's not a RDE. He's only started there previously because we failed to find a starter. Crawford is better off possibly spelling Lawrence at LDE some and McCoy at 3-tech, which is Crawford's best position.

An end rotation of Smith, Griffen and Lawrence is exciting. If a young guy knocks Crawford out as the fourth end, that's even better, but we've been waiting for that for a while now.

Notice you've listed FOUR possible positions he can play( lol).

Corso · Aug 13, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
Notice you've listed FOUR possible positions he can play( lol).

I say put him at safety! Position Flex!!!!

Floatyworm · Aug 13, 2020

robjay04 said:
Clowney had 3 sacks last season and has never had double digit sacks in his career.

Greg Hardy 2.0? Hardy was a good player, he was even a solid player for us...he didn’t make it because he’s a psycho. Huge difference.

You know Griffen is a nutbag too....right? :popcorn:

....there was a reason why nobody was willing to offer him big money. You all can gush over this signing all you want....but I don't think it's that big of a deal. Probably would have got the same out of bringing back Micheal Bennett.

Bad thing is....all this really did was get us older on the D-line...and probably squeezes out one of the kids...Armstrong, Jackson, Hill or Anae.

gimmesix · Aug 13, 2020

Hawkeye0202 said:
Notice you've listed FOUR possible positions he can play( lol).

Four? RDE as a run-stopper but not much of a pass rusher. 3-tech as a decent pass rusher/run stopper. LDE as a run-stopper, so-so pass rusher. What's the fourth?

Tussinman · Aug 13, 2020

QuincyCarterEra said:
I don't agree with it, but I'll take it since you provided a source with substance.

Kudos.

There's nothing to disagree with. Woods was banged up and Maliek was crap against the run. Poe/McCoy duo grading out signficantly better is pretty much a given

Rayman70 said:
HILL WONT BE HERE if MM says so.

Hill is probably safe for this year. They had originally said they wanted 4 interior lineman but with the 3T backup being a 3rd round rookie there going to do a rotation of Hill and Gillmore (too much of a risk to only have 1).

They'll send 2 DE's to practice squad instead of 1 and that will free up a spot for a 5th interior lineman. Since Gillmore and Hill where drafted high cowboys don't have the option to store one in reserve on practice squad since both would get snatched up

Western · Aug 13, 2020

Dre11 · Aug 13, 2020

Kaiser said:
Sure, but I look it like both guys are at 75% of their peak at this point, but limiting their snaps to rotate in Woods, Gallimore, etc will let them play better in fewer snaps, plus play a longer career.

I just looked it up and last year McCoy averaged 44 snaps a game and Poe averaged 39 (in ten starts), I think both will improve if they play fewer snaps.

no way do I believe McCoy or Poe is 75% their peak. Griffin maybe, but that was in Minny with talented defenses.

Dre11 · Aug 13, 2020

darthseinfeld said:
Poe actually had a very good year as a pass rusher last year. Would have had 7-8 sacks if he didnt get hurt

he had an average season, they struggled vs the run and how much of him getting hurt has to do with wear and tear.

kskboys · Aug 13, 2020

JoeKing said:
macht nichts

Nicht eine bischen?

kskboys · Aug 13, 2020

Typhus said:
I try to place a comparison to Griffin, and have thought maybe a better version of Ebenezer Ekuban sp.... ?

In his prime, Greg Ellis. Now? Hard to say.

CTcowboy203 · Aug 13, 2020

38 Special said:
Crawford is making too much to be a reserve. It would cost us an additional $7.25 million to keep him over Dorrance Armstrong. He’s not $7.25 million dollars better.

We’d be better off cutting him and rolling his salary forward. Spend the money on someone better.

he will get significant snaps...let his contract play out this year. Depth is a good problem to have.

America's Cowboy · Aug 13, 2020

Western said:

Everson Griffen has a little crazy look going..., but in a good crazy kind of way.
:thumbup:

JoeKing · Aug 14, 2020

kskboys said:
Nicht eine bischen?

nicht einmal ein wenig

QuincyCarterEra · Aug 14, 2020

Tussinman said:
There's nothing to disagree with. Woods was banged up and Maliek was crap against the run. Poe/McCoy duo grading out signficantly better is pretty much a given

Hill is probably safe for this year. They had originally said they wanted 4 interior lineman but with the 3T backup being a 3rd round rookie there going to do a rotation of Hill and Gillmore (too much of a risk to only have 1).

They'll send 2 DE's to practice squad instead of 1 and that will free up a spot for a 5th interior lineman. Since Gillmore and Hill where drafted high cowboys don't have the option to store one in reserve on practice squad since both would get snatched up

There is something to disagree with, and that's why I do.

There's two facets to playing DT, and it's not just rush defense. And sorry if I'm not impressed by a DT who had the most snaps on a team that was worst in the league against the run.

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