I think that we are set to finally see the potential of this team unleashed

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If an owner/GM is cancerous to his team, pretending it no longer matters because I'm a fan boy doesn't make the problem go away. The reason the Cowboys haven't won in 25 years is the same reason why they won't win this year either.

He was a cancer in 1995. He's a cancer today. He'll be a cancer in 2030 if he's still around.

I think you're in for a surprise.

Bill Parcells had two Super Bowl Championships on his resume and he did it without Aaron Rodgers. Means nothing here because this situation is unique.

Parcells got everything he wanted in Dallas. Every coach, every player, everything. Jerry never held the man back. The fact is that he was past his prime. That and he no longer had Belichick coaching his defense for him.
 

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A Garrett-less led team should be excitement for all. :muttley:

That was the best news all oof-season, until we drafted CeeDee. But the new coaching staff still tops everything. just imagine if Garrett was still here. The draft may have been a disaster. The new defensive FA's would not be here. No Poe, MCcoy, Dix, Smith, Griffen. Just think of all that talent not here.
They would have not signed Dalton as well. Witten would be here stopping TE progress.

Maybe Diggs would have been the #1 pick, if not then Chaisson. Lamb would be in Philly. Maher would have been brought back in to compete with Forbaith.

Time to be even more excited as TC has begun.

Spot on.
 

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You can't overstate the upgrade from Garrett to McCarthy. We have all seen McCarthy limp into the playoffs numerous times with no OL, no secondary, most guys on IR and still make a run. Yes, having Rodgers is huge, but the Cowboys couldn't seem to even compete without the greater majority of their starters in place under Garrett.

McCarthy is as much a contingency planner as he is a first series developer. Does anyone believe McCarthy would have allowed that disaster in Atlanta happen in 2017? The BS effort vs Minnesota, Buffalo and Eagles last season? Garrett should have been replaced long before before the bus left for the airport in Philly last year. He was never HC material and quite frankly is not even an innovative coordinator.

This season is a asterisk campaign for all teams. If the Cowboys were to win the SB, it will be followed with a "yea but" from many observers and so should it be if things go south. There is no way to see 2020 as typical NFL season and I find it highly likely that 16 games won't be played and teams will be playing some games with practice squad guys at critical positions.

The McCarthy era starts in 2021. This season, whatever the outcome, is dead air.
 

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I think you're in for a surprise.



Parcells got everything he wanted in Dallas. Every coach, every player, everything. Jerry never held the man back. The fact is that he was past his prime. That and he no longer had Belichick coaching his defense for him.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about if you think Parcells got everything he wanted in Dallas. Hell just his introductory press conference told you he didn't when they talked about all the concessions that had to be made on both sides to come to an agreement. You don't make concessions when you get everything you want.

That was Parcells past his prime and he was still an infinitely better head coach than Mike McCarthy. Hand McCarthy that mess in 2003 and he's fired in 3 years max.
 

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I understand the frustrations with Jerry Jones, much of it is warranted. But it should not develop into a blinding well of hatred from which there is no escape, no matter what the man does.

He's presided over a coaching staff change - we can blame him for the Garrett era but also must credit him for finally ending it and getting McCarthy.

He's put people in place and allowed them to do their jobs to have a stellar draft.

The team has made a bunch of quality free agent signings during the offseason and shored up most weaknesses they had.

Dislike for past mistakes should not blind people to the good being done today. That's no way to live, no way to enjoy the game, and no way to continue being a fan. It's not good for anybody.
Stas I understand that. I don’t see myself as pessimistic and I certainly don’t hate Jerry. I’m just not buying what he sells. He’s a great salesman and great businessman. He could sell sand in a desert, But- He’s terrible as a GM. Why?
1. Because he’s overly optimistic each year. His thinking is always based on “best case scenarios” rather than worst. The best and most successful GMs are pessimistic- they are prepared for the worst.
2. He has too many sycophants around him. He listens to what he wants to hear. Good leaders surround themselves with people who will tell them what they don’t want to hear. Good leaders have people around them that will tell them the ugly truth. Who does that for Jerry?​

I don’t hate Jerry at all. He’s actually a good person. He’s just not very good at football.
 

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All jokes aside, what is your personal opinion? Do you think they have a shot?
I don't know about you, but seeing a head coach whom comes off as detailed, stern and experienced as big Mike gives me a ton of optimism.

Think back to Jason's fake cussing and nauseating slogans that players endured with no tactical advantage. Even the cheerleaders checked out during one of the freckled puppets pep talks on the Dallas cowboys cheerleaders making the team tv show! That told me all I ever needed to know.

Just look into the eyes of big Mike, and behold his intimidating girth, and all is right with the world!

At least for now :flagwave:
 

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I think that we are set to finally see the potential of this team unleashed. Not only from the players that have been here, but the number of new faces that have been added. Maybe I'm homering out, but my optimism is sky-high with the 2020 Dallas Cowboys. I confess to always feeling some measure of this at the start of each new season, but it feels much higher this season. And the reports on players, coaches, schemes and lineups only serves to increase it.

The front office has remade the defensive line in one offseason. And not with bums, but with proven veteran talent. These guys have Pro Bowl pedigree, and the Cowboys somehow got all of them for far less than what anyone could have expected.

Dallas had a phenomenal draft and somehow managed to see the best receiver in the draft fall in their laps. They followed that up with several more hits and positions of need.

And now they finally have a capable, creative coaching staff in place putting it all together.

I think the results are going to be stark and that this team is going to finally show the potential they've had for several years now. The roadblocks have been removed and this team has a real shot to win a championship this year.

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Of course, and consistent with my luck, thus all happens through year I'd the pandemic which threatens the cancelation or astricked shortened/modified season. As the saying goes, if it wasn't for bad luck, I would have no luck at all.
 

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You obviously don't know what you're talking about if you think Parcells got everything he wanted in Dallas.

Point out exactly where I'm wrong. And where the players and coaches weren't Parcells' guys. I'll wait.

Hell just his introductory press conference told you he didn't when they talked about all the concessions that had to be made on both sides to come to an agreement. You don't make concessions when you get everything you want.

I can give you the facts about all of the players and coaches he brought in. Actions, not words. And Parcells himself praises Jerry and his time in Dallas, hardly fitting your claims otherwise.

That was Parcells past his prime and he was still an infinitely better head coach than Mike McCarthy. Hand McCarthy that mess in 2003 and he's fired in 3 years max.

Great unprovable, worthless hypothetical right there. Let's deal with the facts, shall we?
 

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I don't know about you, but seeing a head coach whom comes off as detailed, stern and experienced as big Mike gives me a ton of optimism.

Think back to Jason's fake cussing and nauseating slogans that players endured with no tactical advantage. Even the cheerleaders checked out during one of the freckled puppets pep talks on the Dallas cowboys cheerleaders making the team tv show! That told me all I ever needed to know.

Just look into the eyes of big Mike, and behold his intimidating girth, and all is right with the world!

At least for now :flagwave:

He's shown he can get the job done. A Championship and what? 9 years of playoffs while he was in Green Bay? Our fans would kill for that.
 

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You can't overstate the upgrade from Garrett to McCarthy. We have all seen McCarthy limp into the playoffs numerous times with no OL, no secondary, most guys on IR and still make a run. Yes, having Rodgers is huge, but the Cowboys couldn't seem to even compete without the greater majority of their starters in place under Garrett.

McCarthy is as much a contingency planner as he is a first series developer. Does anyone believe McCarthy would have allowed that disaster in Atlanta happen in 2017? The BS effort vs Minnesota, Buffalo and Eagles last season? Garrett should have been replaced long before before the bus left for the airport in Philly last year. He was never HC material and quite frankly is not even an innovative coordinator.

This season is a asterisk campaign for all teams. If the Cowboys were to win the SB, it will be followed with a "yea but" from many observers and so should it be if things go south. There is no way to see 2020 as typical NFL season and I find it highly likely that 16 games won't be played and teams will be playing some games with practice squad guys at critical positions.

The McCarthy era starts in 2021. This season, whatever the outcome, is dead air.
The great McCarthy has a worse overall record than Garrett since 2012 despite having a HOF QB in his prime. Since 2014, Garrett himself rebounded from every mediocre odd year with an average of 12 wins and a divisional playoff game. That means for the Fat Man to have any noticeable impact, he needs to make the championship game... and some of you are going to be extremely disappointed when that doesn’t happen. Not because the team didn’t make it, but because you’ll finally realize you have no idea what’s going on.
 

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Stas I understand that. I don’t see myself as pessimistic and I certainly don’t hate Jerry. I’m just not buying what he sells. He’s a great salesman and great businessman. He could sell sand in a desert, But- He’s terrible as a GM. Why?
1. Because he’s overly optimistic each year. His thinking is always based on “best case scenarios” rather than worst. The best and most successful GMs are pessimistic- they are prepared for the worst.
2. He has too many sycophants around him. He listens to what he wants to hear. Good leaders surround themselves with people who will tell them what they don’t want to hear. Good leaders have people around them that will tell them the ugly truth. Who does that for Jerry?​

I don’t hate Jerry at all. He’s actually a good person. He’s just not very good at football.

I see that supposed 'death grip' having been greatly loosened.

McCarthy is getting everything he's asked for here. And entire revamp of the coaching staff anywhere he's wanted. And a great draft coupled with a terrific free agency. As the owner and GM, Jerry has done everything he can to help this staff succeed. What more is to be asked of Jerry at this point? Any other GM in this league would be showered with praise.
 

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I think that we are set to finally see the potential of this team unleashed. Not only from the players that have been here, but the number of new faces that have been added. Maybe I'm homering out, but my optimism is sky-high with the 2020 Dallas Cowboys. I confess to always feeling some measure of this at the start of each new season, but it feels much higher this season. And the reports on players, coaches, schemes and lineups only serves to increase it.

The front office has remade the defensive line in one offseason. And not with bums, but with proven veteran talent. These guys have Pro Bowl pedigree, and the Cowboys somehow got all of them for far less than what anyone could have expected.

Dallas had a phenomenal draft and somehow managed to see the best receiver in the draft fall in their laps. They followed that up with several more hits and positions of need.

And now they finally have a capable, creative coaching staff in place putting it all together.

I think the results are going to be stark and that this team is going to finally show the potential they've had for several years now. The roadblocks have been removed and this team has a real shot to win a championship this year.

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I agree with you 100% Crawford is gonna have a great year!! Oh, and the rest of the team too! Lol
 

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The great McCarthy has a worse overall record than Garrett since 2012 despite having a HOF QB in his prime. Since 2014, Garrett himself rebounded from every mediocre odd year with an average of 12 wins and a divisional playoff game. That means for the Fat Man to have any noticeable impact, he needs to make the championship game... and some of you are going to be extremely disappointed when that doesn’t happen. Not because the team didn’t make it, but because you’ll finally realize you have no idea what’s going on.

Garrett gets excuses and the Super Bowl winning coach is referred to as "Fat Man".

What a joke some 'fans' truly are.
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Garrett gets excuses and the Super Bowl winning coach is referred to as "Fat Man".

What a joke some 'fans' truly are.
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Unfortunately that Super Bowl didn’t prevent him from getting sent home for two straight losing seasons or having a worse record than Garrett for most of the decade. But isn’t being fat a good trend for winning Super Bowls? Since you’ve already declared the draft a success, I figure that you must be so dragged up you can see the future.
:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
 

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The safeties are off.

1) We wanted Garrett gone.
2) We wanted bigger DT's.
3) We wanted LVE at mike.
4) We wanted another quality WR.
5) We wanted Frederick replacement.
6) We wanted a better backup QB.
7) We wanted better pass rushers.
8) We wanted a true hoss at TE.
9) We wanted to fix our special teams.
10) We wanted to repair our secondary.

We got 80% of what we wanted in one offseason, IMO. The starters on our offensive line and the starters in our secondary are our only question marks. But even with the unknowns, I say win the division and one playoff game.
 

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Unfortunately that Super Bowl didn’t prevent him from getting sent home for two straight losing seasons or having a worse record than Garrett for most of the decade. But isn’t being fat a good trend for winning Super Bowls? Since you’ve already declared the draft a success, I figure that you must be so dragged up you can see the future.
:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:

I can certainly see things better than you.

The guy trying to prop up a never-was in Garrett while trying to knock a guy that's actually won.

If your goal was to look foolish, mission accomplished. Well done.
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