Blake Jarwin speaks up to defend Jason Witten

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Witten, the true class of Cowboys Football in our worst era.
Lol, aparently you weren't around during the early 2000's "Campo Era" or the late 80's "fall before the rise."

You haven't experienced the dark age and the hopeless misery that was three consecutive 5-11 seasons.
 

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Lol, aparently you weren't around during the early 2000's "Campo Era" or the late 80's "fall before the rise."

You haven't experienced the dark age and the hopeless misery that was three consecutive 5-11 seasons.
I’ve been around since the early expansion years in 60’s. Why do you ask? I consider this era pretty much since at least 2000.
 

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I respect what Whit has done as well, but he will look mighty nice standing next to Chucky over in Vegas. He is a well below average tight end at this point in his career, Jarwin is heads and shoulders the better player right now, and so is blake bell.
Jarwin wasn’t good enough to to replace Witten a year and a half ago. Reality is about to slap fans in the face when they realize that the TEs on the roster are not good enough to carry Witten’s jock strap, even at this late point in his career.
 

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I’ve been around since the early expansion years in 60’s. Why do you ask? I consider this era pretty much since at least 2000.

The 60's? Then you've seen it all.

Record-wise, we've seen worse but that's because they were terrible.

If, by "worse", you mean squandering talent and opportunity, then you have a very strong argument.

It has been a frustrating decade to be sure. Before, at least we knew that the team was bad. Recently the Cowboys talent level say one thing, their record says another.
 

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The 60's? Then you've seen it all.

Record-wise, we've seen worse but that's because they were terrible.

If, by "worse", you mean squandering talent and opportunity, then you have a very strong argument.

It has been a frustrating decade to be sure. Before, at least we knew that the team was bad. Recently the Cowboys talent level say one thing, their record says another.
It’s basically all ran together for me since late 90’s.

We have talent in some key positions . But we’ve lacked an Elite defense and QB. The two key ingredients by most championship teams in Cap era.Either and or..

While our coaching has been suspect at times I think our overall talent has been over hyped on the most part. We’ve been competitive but not elite in these critical areas I mentioned . There’s a sharp divide there which has left us short in January when we have made a push.

The one season I felt we obviously under achieved was 2007. 2014 we had the offense and similar to 16 and 18 but wasn’t sold we should have gone deeper while we certainly had the opportunity.

Just because you get close doesn’t mean you should have gone further. Much like in our glory years we had some heartbreakers too with very talented teams but some simply beaten by better teams or upset. Which happens. And we had some great coaching in first 29 years.
 
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I respect what Whit has done as well, but he will look mighty nice standing next to Chucky over in Vegas. He is a well below average tight end at this point in his career, Jarwin is heads and shoulders the better player right now, and so is blake bell.

If you look at Witten's stats last season it would show he was an average tight end, not a below average one. He definitely is no longer an elite tight end, but he isn't as near the bottom as people make him out to be. And last year he played the fewest snaps in his career. Had they put him on the field as much as he was in previous seasons, his average numbers would be a little better. There is a large gap between the elite tight ends and the average ones and another significant gap between the average and the below average.

All of this stuff about Witten as a teammate to other tight ends comes from Martellus Bennett. Why would anyone trust whatever he has to say? The guy couldn't last long on any team he played with. His longest stint was 4 years and that was with Dallas. I don't believe anything he or his brother say about anything.
 

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Witten couldn't beat the tortoise in a foot race. That is one of the reasons why he now wears black and silver.

At age 21, he couldn't do that and yet...........

Receptions: 1,215
Receiving yards: 12,977
Receiving touchdowns: 72

Speed is not everything and especially at the TE position.
 

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If you look at Witten's stats last season it would show he was an average tight end, not a below average one. He definitely is no longer an elite tight end, but he isn't as near the bottom as people make him out to be. And last year he played the fewest snaps in his career. Had they put him on the field as much as he was in previous seasons, his average numbers would be a little better. There is a large gap between the elite tight ends and the average ones and another significant gap between the average and the below average.

All of this stuff about Witten as a teammate to other tight ends comes from Martellus Bennett. Why would anyone trust whatever he has to say? The guy couldn't last long on any team he played with. His longest stint was 4 years and that was with Dallas. I don't believe anything he or his brother say about anything.
He looked below average to me compared to see other tight ends I follow. Whit was grandfathered 8n by the freckled puppet. Why do you think younger players flourished elsewhere? They had to ride the bench as rookies... Total farse..
 

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He looked below average to me compared to see other tight ends I follow. Whit was grandfathered 8n by the freckled puppet. Why do you think younger players flourished elsewhere? They had to ride the bench as rookies... Total farse..

Then there must be a bunch of other below average tight ends in the league. His stats say he was average last year. I'm not saying average was good enough, but he was average and wasn't elite.

Which young guys flourished elsewhere after sitting behind Witten? Anthony Fasano didn't flourish. He was the true definition of a below average tight end. Gavin Escobar definitely didn't flourish. He did absolutely nothing after leaving Dallas. Martellus Bennett is the only one that did well outside of Dallas and as I mentioned before teams didn't go out of their way to retain him long. He would have done more in Dallas had he had a better attitude. Also, his final year in Dallas he dealt with some nagging injuries that limited him during games.

Bennett played from 2012 to 2017 after he left Dallas. He put up 348 receptions, 3727 yards and 26 TDs post Cowboys. During that same time period Jason Witten produced 456 receptions, 4539 yards and 27 TDs.
 

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Blake Jarwin took exception to comments made by Cleveland’s Austin Hooper about Jason Witten’s reported unwillingness to help. “You talk about a leader in the tight end room. He taught me a lot,” Jarwin said. “I know there’s been rumors that may be he wasn’t the best teammates to the tight ends and I couldn’t disagree more. Me and (Dalton) Schultz talked quite a bit about that lately, just what we’ve learned from him the respect for the game he has and what he’s taught us as players.”


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Todd Archer, ESPN Staff Writer
see all that BS on that hoop post and all true fans defending Witt, and we were right..
 

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He looked below average to me compared to see other tight ends I follow. Whit was grandfathered 8n by the freckled puppet. Why do you think younger players flourished elsewhere? They had to ride the bench as rookies... Total farse..
flourished lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you re a farse.. Witts already laughing at you in the HOF:lmao2::lmao: :oldcouple::popcorn:
 

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The disdain on here for Witten is absolutely pathetic. He’s one of the best to ever wear the star, a first ballot HOFer, and one of the top 3 TE’s to ever play the game. He saved our ***** many times. It’s not a players job to take themselves off the field. That’s up to the coaching staff if they think there’s a better option (newsflash, there hasn’t been) and/or for other TEs on the roster to put him on the sideline by outperforming him (none did). It’s admirable for any player to want to stay on the field, especially when they’re playing hurt and are older. It’s sure as hell better than players that tap out when they get a hangnail.
Great post.
 

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Seems people do not remember Witten was an all around great player, including blocking. Sure he slowed down a bit, but I blame the clown Garrett for those horrible routes in recent rears. I will all ways be a Witten fan.

 

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Then there must be a bunch of other below average tight ends in the league. His stats say he was average last year. I'm not saying average was good enough, but he was average and wasn't elite.

Which young guys flourished elsewhere after sitting behind Witten? Anthony Fasano didn't flourish. He was the true definition of a below average tight end. Gavin Escobar definitely didn't flourish. He did absolutely nothing after leaving Dallas. Martellus Bennett is the only one that did well outside of Dallas and as I mentioned before teams didn't go out of their way to retain him long. He would have done more in Dallas had he had a better attitude. Also, his final year in Dallas he dealt with some nagging injuries that limited him during games.

Bennett played from 2012 to 2017 after he left Dallas. He put up 348 receptions, 3727 yards and 26 TDs post Cowboys. During that same time period Jason Witten produced 456 receptions, 4539 yards and 27 TDs.
:hammer:dude was trolling glad that was put out with facts:thumbup:
 

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At age 21, he couldn't do that and yet...........

Receptions: 1,215
Receiving yards: 12,977
Receiving touchdowns: 72

Speed is not everything and especially at the TE position.
yup couple that with what he and his family did for the city of Dallas / FW off the field, hes one of the best to ever wear the star..great person and a great player...
 

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So we DON'T have a guy now that can "throw people open".
Dak's accuracy has gotten a lot better. He's an accurate QB now. I still don't consider him a guy to really place the ball to throw a WR open. That kind of skill usually comes with more years in the league. He may still get there. May not be that long. He made huge strides last year.
 
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