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QuincyCarterEra said:
You use the term "cherry picked" in everything you disagree with lol.

At a certain point the 50+ data points aren't "cherry picked" they're just facts.
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You are insatiable, in your desire to be loved. You can count on one hand how many times I've used the word "cherry picked"! How about the 50+ counterpoints, to that data? Aria, please like.
 

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Starforever said:
You are insatiable, in your desire to be loved. You can count on one hand how many times I've used the word "cherry picked"! How about the 50+ counterpoints, to that data? Aria, please like.
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You didn't provide any data LMAO

Broken tackles- cherry picked
Redzone TDs- cherry picked
Elusive rating- cherry picked
Yards after contact per attempt- cherry picked
His early game rush attempts correlating to wins- cherry picked
His yards per route run- cherry picked
His broken tackles per catch- cherry picked
Yards per target- cherry picked

Etc, etc, etc

Handful? Lol give yourself more credit, you've been much more persistent than that.
 
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Aviano90 said:
How often does Dak throw against stacked boxes and how does that compare to the other QBs in the league?
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You tell me, if your going to make a claim that Zeke doesn’t affect the passing game.

What’s clear is that, you can throw against stacked boxes, meaning the running game impact isn’t just seen by when Zeke runs and it’s obviously clear that it impacts a lot, because of how much Dallas runs PLAY-ACTION, whether out of the shotgun or a question of a quick step drop from under center and teams that defend play action well, Dak has completely stunk up the joint. What’s clear is the Bills safety clearly stated that Dallas runs a lot of play action off stacked boxes..

If you can supposedly watch all of Romo’s games, why not watch Zeke’s. It’s a lot less tape..
 
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khiladi said:
You tell me, if your going to make a claim that Zeke doesn’t affect the passing game.

What’s clear is that, you can throw against stacked boxes, meaning the running game impact isn’t just seen by when Zeke runs and it’s obviously clear that it impacts a lot, because of how much Dallas runs PLAY-ACTION, whether out of the shotgun or a question of a quick step drop from under center and teams that defend play action well, Dak has completely stunk up the joint. What’s clear is the Bills safety clearly stated that Dallas runs a lot of play action off stacked boxes..

If you can supposedly watch all of Romo’s games, why not watch Zeke’s. It’s a lot less tape..
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You feel free to let me know the first time I claim Zeke doesn’t impact the passing game. :laugh:
 
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QuincyCarterEra said:
You didn't provide any data LMAO

Broken tackles- cherry picked
Redzone TDs- cherry picked
Elusive rating- cherry picked
Yards after contact per attempt- cherry picked
His early game rush attempts correlating to wins- cherry picked
His yards per route run- cherry picked
His broken tackles per catch- cherry picked
Yards per target- cherry picked

Etc, etc, etc

Handful? Lol give yourself more credit, you've been much more persistent than that.
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Neither are you a good liar. You cannot find anywhere, that I responded to any of those singular stats, as being cherry picked. If you are going to reply, please get your information correct.
 
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Aviano90 said:
You feel free to let me know the first time I claim Zeke doesn’t impact the passing game. :laugh:
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Yeah ok, you were asking me to provide the data about how well it stacks with the rest of the league for the sake of something you already know.. like I said, you can do it yourself if you spend your time allegedly “analyzing” all of Romo’s games, which has a lot more tape..

The reality is Dak is complete garbage against teams that defend play action well..
 
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Yeah ok, you were asking me to provide the data about how well it stacks with the rest of the league for the sake of something you already know.. like I said, you can do it yourself if you spend your time allegedly “analyzing” all of Romo’s games, which has a lot more tape..

The reality is Dak is complete garbage against teams that defend play action well..
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No, you were spouting off about how Dak throws against stacked boxes. What I asked for is how often Dak does it compared to other QBs. Are you under the assumption other QBs don’t throw against stacked boxes?

The reality is you twist everything to try and make Dak look the worst he can possibly look. We already know Zeke doesn’t run against stacked boxes nearly as much as claimed. I would imagine Dak doesn’t throw against stacked boxes as often as you think either.

And that does not mean I don’t believe Zeke impacts the passing game.
 
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dak was hamstrung having to play under garrett/linehan. any judgments as to his true ability are premature until seeing him play a season under mac. zeke has proven without a shadow of a doubt he is among the best ever at the rb position. currently the best in the nfl. and he did so playing for the most predictable offense in the nfl.
 

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Aviano90 said:
No, you were spouting off about how Dak throws against stacked boxes. What I asked for is how often Dak does it compared to other QBs. Are you under the assumption other QBs don’t throw against stacked boxes?

The reality is you twist everything to try and make Dak look the worst he can possibly look. We already know Zeke doesn’t run against stacked boxes nearly as much as claimed. I would imagine Dak doesn’t throw against stacked boxes as often as you think either.

And that does not mean I don’t believe Zeke impacts the passing game.
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cern said:
dak was hamstrung having to play under garrett/linehan. any judgments as to his true ability are premature until seeing him play a season under mac. zeke has proven without a shadow of a doubt he is among the best ever at the rb position. currently the best in the nfl. and he did so playing for the most predictable offense in the nfl.
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Bwahahahahahahahaha...goes from being possibly the best in the league to the best ever “without a shadow of a doubt”.

Gotta be trolling at this point. Or maybe not considering this is coming from someone who knows nothing about zeke other than his total yards. Probably just ignorance the more I think about it.
 

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aria said:
Bwahahahahahahahaha...goes from being possibly the best in the league to the best ever “without a shadow of a doubt”.

Gotta be trolling at this point. Or maybe not considering this is coming from someone who knows nothing about zeke other than his total yards. Probably just ignorance the more I think about it.
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Not even the best back of his draft class lmao.
 
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boxer-rumble said:
Are you going by total yards?

Without being biased, if the team is up in score against bad teams, then yes, we’re more likely to run more. Against better teams, if we’re down, he’s going to get the ball a lot less.

Same with Dak, he’ll get more passing yards if we’re down in score and less yards if we’re up.

This is why stats alone mean nothing without the context of the entire game.
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Most level-headed post, well done. And you made it look easy, which it is. lol
 
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Aviano90 said:
No, you were spouting off about how Dak throws against stacked boxes. What I asked for is how often Dak does it compared to other QBs. Are you under the assumption other QBs don’t throw against stacked boxes?

The reality is you twist everything to try and make Dak look the worst he can possibly look. We already know Zeke doesn’t run against stacked boxes nearly as much as claimed. I would imagine Dak doesn’t throw against stacked boxes as often as you think either.

And that does not mean I don’t believe Zeke impacts the passing game.
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No, what I stated was the following:

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It’s pretty obvious people don’t seem to understand that defenses can stack the box and Dak can still throw...

That’s more than evident from the fact that Dak got thirty percent of his yards on play action, by the time they played the Bills.

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buff...dak-prescott-no-1-ranked-cowboys-offense.html
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What I stated is it’s ultimately stupid to claim that teams AREN’T stacking the boxes to stop Zeke anymore, which it what people were claiming, including you. The fact is, I then stated a simply fact that it is more than attested by the fact how much the Cowboys employ play-action with Dak and all the yardage they accrue through the air from it.

I also quoted from the Bills safety that, based on what they know, Dak takes advantage of these stacked boxes on play action.

I then stated to corraborate how much Dak is garbage, by the fact he sucked against teams that defended play-action well.

Then you wanted me to baby-sit you to ask about the stats. If you weren’t disputing the point than you had no reason to ask me for that data, like you did whenI said Dak was garbage in the red-zone and then you went over this tripe defending your group of cheerleaders about how I’m supposedly a liar.

If you want to know how much he throws againsr stacked boxes, than you can watch the tape yourself, like you supposedly did with Romo’s games, which are a lot more work. But we all know that’s just exaggerated garbage. So spare me your nonsense. You didn’t win any argument here.

and yeah I do it, because Dak sucks and we spent four years baby sitting this trash, while propping him up as some hero, while he gets DUIs, beat up in spring break, runs around partying with Zeke and he doesn’t lock up his pit bulls, which end up biting neighbors and criticizing his teammates for not practicing hard, while it took him a week to throw a TD in training camp and how he doesn’t allegedly practice well. And yeah I do it because his numbers are purely a product of defenses daring him to throw, while worried about the running game and Zeke. I’m not going to buy all these justigycatone after the fact for a guy who spend his time arguing that Alfred Morris or some situational backs makes the same impact as Zeke, because of his YPC because of his ‘percentage’ against stacked boxes and the claims he wasn’t trying to dispute the impact of Zeke in the passing game, because he didn’t mention stacked boxes specifically.
 
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khiladi said:
No, what I stated was the following:



What I stated is it’s ultimately stupid to claim that teams AREN’T stacking the boxes to stop Zeke anymore, which it what people were claiming, including you. The fact is, I then stated a simply fact that it is more than attested by the fact how much the Cowboys employ play-action with Dak and all the yardage they accrue through the air from it.

I also quoted from the Bills safety that, based on what they know, Dak takes advantage of these stacked boxes on play action.

I then stated to corraborate how much Dak is garbage, by the fact he sucked against teams that defended play-action well.

Then you wanted me to baby-sit you to ask about the stats. If you weren’t disputing the point than you had no reason to ask me for that data, like you did whenI said Dak was garbage in the red-zone and then you went over this tripe defending your group of cheerleaders about how I’m supposedly a liar.

If you want to know how much he throws againsr stacked boxes, than you can watch the tape yourself, like you supposedly did with Romo’s games, which are a lot more work. But we all know that’s just exaggerated garbage. So spare me your nonsense. You didn’t win any argument here.

and yeah I do it, because Dak sucks and we spent four years baby sitting this trash, while propping him up as some hero, while he gets DUIs, beat up in spring break, runs around partying with Zeke and he doesn’t lock up his pit bulls, which end up biting neighbors and criticizing his teammates for not practicing hard, while it took him a week to throw a TD in training camp and how he doesn’t allegedly practice well. And yeah I do it because his numbers are purely a product of defenses daring him to throw, while worried about the running game and Zeke. I’m not going to buy all these justigycatone after the fact for a guy who spend his time arguing that Alfred Morris or some situational backs makes the same impact as Zeke, because of his YPC because of his ‘percentage’ against stacked boxes and the claims he wasn’t trying to dispute the impact of Zeke in the passing game, because he didn’t mention stacked boxes specifically.
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Not trying to win an argument. I am trying to have a conversation and get an understanding of how often Dak throws against stacked boxes. Not sure why I turn to ask you anything because I know you are just a lying, spin spin doctor, Mr. Hankey that needs to be flushed down the toilet. It’s clear you were just pulling crap out of your butt with the captain obvious statement that Dak can throw against stacked boxes. Such insight from a Dak hater.
 
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Aviano90 said:
Not trying to win an argument. I am trying to have a conversation and get an understanding of how often Dak throws against stacked boxes. Not sure why I turn to ask you anything because I know you are just a lying, spin spin doctor, Mr. Hankey that needs to be flushed down the toilet.
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Look how you contradict yourself with more fluff. You are supposedly trying to have a conversation to “understand” while claiming I’m a liar, even after I provided you the stats previously, which you originally claimed was “bad” for Dak anyways. Ironic..

Now you claim I stated I lied about how many times Zeke ran against stacked boxes, when I stated percentage is not the same thing as quantity. That’s basic mathematics. So it is not I, who am lying..

No, the fact is, my original post was clear what I stated. If you want to know how many times he throws against stacked boxes than do the homework yourself, like you supposedly went back and watched all of Romo’s games.. but we know that’s just exaggerated hogwash as well... Just like you claim Alfred Morris can do what Zeke does, based on YPC against “stacked boxes.. But I guess that’s a lie too..
 
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