According to Fisher, Carr be could signed to the Practice Squad

fivetwos said:

What I don't understand is why a veteran player would restrict themselves and not just be available to all teams.

Maybe they are collecting a veteran pay check but I would doubt that was the compromise.

Also, more people around the team during a pandemic seems counterproductive to a point, but I suppose they all have choices.

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Special Teams.

Veterans who don't play special teams, and won't play unless others are injured, are perfect to stash on the PS as reserve players. I hope they use this strategy for all the veteran PS spots. Great opportunity to increase real team depth with play now players instead of developmental players.

Hope they sign a veteran WR, maybe Smith, to the PS. We need some experience to back up the top 3.

buybuydandavis said:

Special Teams.

Veterans who don't play special teams, and won't play unless others are injured, are perfect to stash on the PS as reserve players. I hope they use this strategy for all the veteran PS spots. Great opportunity to increase real team depth with play now players instead of developmental players.

Hope they sign a veteran WR, maybe Smith, to the PS. We need some experience to back up the top 3.

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I meant from a players perspective.

As a team, if you can sign guys, then sure.

I say that being fully unaware of the rules mind you.

Carr on this team in any capacity only helps. He is a true professional and can show our young prospects how to be a pro, on and off the field.

We're hurting THAT bad for secondary help?

Cowboyny said:

Carr on this team in any capacity only helps. He is a true professional and can show our young prospects how to be a pro, on and off the field.

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Then to me they should pay him as a coach, not a player. Let him start to transition to that new role if that's what he's interested in. Reading that article, he's no longer fast enough for corner and not a good enough tackler for safety. If that's the case, what exactly IS he good for at this point? And why does whatever he brings deserve a roster spot?

I still have questions as to exactly what their plan is?

stasheroo said:

Then to me they should pay him as a coach, not a player. Let him start to transition to that new role if that's what he's interested in. Reading that article, he's no longer fast enough for corner and not a good enough tackler for safety. If that's the case, what exactly IS he good for at this point? And why does whatever he brings deserve a roster spot?

I still have questions as to exactly what their plan is?

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I still think he could be a serviceable backup at either CB or S. Speed was never his best attribute, he is a veteran that will not make mental mistakes. As a short-term #5 CB or S, he can be counted on to do his job. Most likely he will just be a placeholder for Lewis, until he's ready to return.

Cowboyny said:

I still think he could be a serviceable backup at either CB or S. Speed was never his best attribute, he is a veteran that will not make mental mistakes. As a short-term #5 CB or S, he can be counted on to do his job. Most likely he will just be a placeholder for Lewis, until he's ready to return.

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It doesn't make sense to me. You're going to sign a veteran at the end to be your 5th corner? There are too many corners on short term deals already and I'd hate to see a young player cut for a guy at the end.

tyke1doe said:

We're hurting THAT bad for secondary help?

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Yes lol

America's Cowboy said:

Maybe Dez can be brought on onboard to the practice squad as well?

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Lol thought the same

tyke1doe said:

We're hurting THAT bad for secondary help?

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No but it's a good practice squad insurance guy with the new rules. Plus he has flexibility and is a coach type player

PhillyCowboysFan said:

I am not sure how anyone outside of the organization can have any idea how someone has performed during practice to make any determination on who should or shouldn't make this team. Opinions are great but opinions without any tangible facts and/or data is worthless!

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Agree.
They made a statement as all teams will have to do. They have to rely upon the college draft reports, and for vet players, pro reports from the scouts. Old game film as well. As for game situations.
Also they do this for a living, we do not. Though some on here study game film, but does that make them know more than the coaches. Well, ok, it did from the old staff, but how about the new staff.

So all we can do is trust they got it right. Though I am sure many have their standard posts ready to jump on a player or coach.

But you are correct, they see them in practice, have film from practice that none of us have seen. Just what the media was allowed to show. So there will be many uninformed opinions out there, good or bad or indifferent. I am sure they seen a lot behind the doors, closed to the media simulating game situations to help determine the roster.

SeanLee50 said:

New veteran rules.

Simply means he goes to the practice squad. They move Lewis or Bryant to the IR and then promoted to the 53 for next week

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Makes no sense. Why bother with PS. Move guys to IR today. Sign to active roster. No need to bother with PS.

Kaiser said:

I get the "coach on the field" thing and the "stashing a player" thing, but I really don't get the idea that someone like Terrence Steele or the 4th TE adds more to the roster.

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i think they will get released once most teams have their PS squads and rosters made, then will try to put on PS.

AbeBeta said:

Makes no sense. Why bother with PS. Move guys to IR today. Sign to active roster. No need to bother with PS.

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I don’t disagree.

Could be more we are waiting to see if those guys need to miss three weeks or not. Just speculating

stasheroo said:

Then to me they should pay him as a coach, not a player. Let him start to transition to that new role if that's what he's interested in. Reading that article, he's no longer fast enough for corner and not a good enough tackler for safety. If that's the case, what exactly IS he good for at this point? And why does whatever he brings deserve a roster spot?

I still have questions as to exactly what their plan is?

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The deep safeties in our new scheme don't have to tackle as much as other schemes. Carr was a solid starter on a top five defense last year, he would still be a Raven if they hadn't spent 40+ Million on other DBs on their roster.

I posted this in the other thread, but it fits here as well.
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This is a pretty interesting situation to me. I may not have everything completely right with all the new PS rules this year, but it looks like an absolute steal for Cowboys if it works out the way it's looking.

This situation breaks out into two parts and is also full of speculation on my part, but we'll see.

Part One: Carr as a Player
Carr seems to have played pretty well as a safety last year, but I think we know he won't necessarily be a game changer, but if what Fish is saying holds true, then the risk is so low that it doesn't matter. If Carr is agreeing to be a PS player, then he doesn't even take up a roster spot. This year there are allowances for 2 players to be brought up from the PS to the team to play each week, then moved back down. This essentially gives us another viable option to put out there without it even costing us a roster spot. I do find it shocking the Carr would agree to this, but it gives us the option on game day to put him in. Another bonus is his locker room presence and his mentoring ability without a roster spot being used or any significant money. If this comes to pass, it's a big win.

Part Two: How it relates to Earl Thomas
If the agreement is in place where Carr somehow agrees to be a PS player for Dallas, then it is also obvious that the staff would pick Carr's brain for a genuine view of the Earl Thomas situation. Carr is well regarded as an honest and stand up guy and would give his true opinion of the events. To a point that if Carr gives the ok, then I think Dallas would also make that move. We have heard enough stories that the "team" wanted Earl gone, but we also know that the team is made up of individuals. Regardless of what the overall vote was, I'd like the FO to hear Carr's take on the situation. If Earl is a bad as has been reported, then I'm sure Carr would back that up and we'd say no to Earl. On the other hand, if Carr provides enough context and details to make Dallas ok with it, then I'd trust Carr's opinion as he was close to the situation.

TL;DR version. We may end up with both of them, and that would be great!

Kaiser said:

The deep safeties in our new scheme don't have to tackle as much as other schemes. Carr was a solid starter on a top five defense last year, he would still be a Raven if they hadn't spent 40+ Million on other DBs on their roster.

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It says a lot that they decided to spend 40+ million on other DB’s.

I saw that you’re excited about the potential move. I’m not. Just a difference of opinion

stasheroo said:

It says a lot that they decided to spend 40+ million on other DB’s.

I saw that you’re excited about the potential move. I’m not. Just a difference of opinion

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Its about one third excitement about Carr and two thirds projectile vomiting when thinking about Darian Thompson starting.

Its not a pet cat, but I do think Carr at Safety could be a Randall Cobb type of a move where a veteran fills a role for a low price.

stasheroo said:

Then to me they should pay him as a coach, not a player. Let him start to transition to that new role if that's what he's interested in. Reading that article, he's no longer fast enough for corner and not a good enough tackler for safety. If that's the case, what exactly IS he good for at this point? And why does whatever he brings deserve a roster spot?

I still have questions as to exactly what their plan is?

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Put him on the PS and you've essentially got a player-coach situation.

AbeBeta said:

Put him on the PS and you've essentially got a player-coach situation.

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I’m good with that.