Fox Sports calls out Skip Bayless

Hawkeye0202 said:

No place for his lack of empathy. In fact, they pull his aeee of the air unless he apologizes to Dak and the mental community.

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Skip is such a loser

"We don't agree at all with what he said, but he brings in views, so yea, hopefully this letter is good enough".

dogunwo said:

Did I miss something? What the heck does SAS have to do with this situation or this thread?

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1000%.......my thinking also. Where this comes from?

Jipper said:

most depressed


check out this article, does a pretty good job of bringing a lot of points to bear. https://thriveglobal.com/stories/millennial-depression-why-are-millennials-depressed/

basically, less opportunity for success , major financial insecurity, debt challenges, etc all coupled with the social situations and job market is driving a lot more depression in the generation compared to historical numbers.

there are many other great articles out there that look at it from different angles but the availability of data and more of an In tune perspective on feelings due to the breakdown of prior social norms is causing a perfect storm for depression in very young adults.


But back to the original point, this guy was wreckless and dumb to make that comment when we have so many in a generation now they are really struggling

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Thanks for posting the link to the article; it's long but well worth a read.

I'll admit that as a card carrying member of the Boomer generation, I have looked at other similar reports on Millennial issues with a bit of disdain, a bit of disbelief. More than once, I have thought, "for heaven's sake, stop whining and put on your big boy pants and get to work".

This is the first article I've seen with data to back up their view of Millennials. One aspect of the article, though, I took issue with relates to university education and student debt.

Basically, the article states Millennials feel compelled to rack up huge student debt to obtain a college degree in order to get a well-paying job.

The article fails to differentiate the type of degrees many past and current college students pursue. Generally, there is a huge demand for degrees in science, engineering, nursing, etc. The article also seems to completely downplay the value of the trade industry - electricians, plumbers, mechanics, etc.

While I sympathize a bit with the student debt issue, in many cases it is a self-inflicted wound.

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Not sure if it’s for ratings or if he just has a problem with Dak. Last year he loved Dak and because his agent pulled a deal from under JJ he now doesn’t respect Dak. Hey skip.... Dak hired agent to take care of it. For all we know Dak may not have even known or was listening to his agents advice. Now he has talked to SJ and JJ he is confident he will have a contract before next year starts. Skip needs to admit he was wrong. It was a interview and Dak opened up. It doesn’t make you weak

Hoods said:

He obviously just confused SAS for Skip...

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I can see why,, They are both idiots.

ColoCowboy said:

Thanks for posting the link to the article; it's long but well worth a read.

I'll admit that as a card carrying member of the Boomer generation, I have looked at other similar reports on Millennial issues with a bit of disdain, a bit of disbelief. More than once, I have thought, "for heaven's sake, stop whining and put on your big boy pants and get to work".

This is the first article I've seen with data to back up their view of Millennials. One aspect of the article, though, I took issue with relates to university education and student debt.

Basically, the article states Millennials feel compelled to rack up huge student debt to obtain a college degree in order to get a well-paying job.

The article fails to differentiate the type of degrees many past and current college students pursue. Generally, there is a huge demand for degrees in science, engineering, nursing, etc. The article also seems to completely downplay the value of the trade industry - electricians, plumbers, mechanics, etc.

While I sympathize a bit with the student debt issue, in many cases it is a self-inflicted wound.

Ducks and runs for cover...

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i 100 percent agree and not all degrees are created equal....I am 38 and have a bachelors from Johns Hopkins and a masters from Carnegie Mellon....7 years after finishing my MBA I’m down to 29k in debt still....when all is said and done it will have cost me close to 250k including Tuiton living expense for going full time and interest.

however....the decision to go to that type of school for a higher education was something I did my calculations on and came up with a positive ROI...something very few do prior to embarking

many of the younger mellenials are still stuck in the 1980s mindset of get a college degree and you are guaranteed a good job, and this just simply isn’t true anymore....it’s a big part of why trade schools are on the way back.

I will say though that the debt struggle is real in large part due to the ridiculous inflation in costs by these undergrad schools....many increas tuition by double and triple the inflation rate annually without giving any additional return in earning power post graduation

Kwyn said:

How could they suspend him when the entire segment was scripted ahead of time? He probably didn’t even write all of those comments himself

Fox should have called themselves out for, at best, being asleep at the wheel when the production team wrote the segment, and at worst, for their complicity in fabricating this entire controversy to generate fake reactions.

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This isn't a sitcom with a bunch of writers and while the producers certainly influence the topics and subject matter I don't believe the show is as "scripted" as you imagine. Skip has the autonomy to say what's on his mind.

I don't know what everyone is so upset about..he said he shouldn't have went public with it but dealt with it internally with friends and family etc.. Did I miss something?

Hawkeye0202 said:

No place for his lack of empathy. In fact, they pull his aeee of the air unless he apologizes to Dak and the mental community.

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so fox regrets having hired this bafoon. I know Fox in general goes for the shock value to create viewer ship, but there is a difference between shock value and stupidity. I hope he gets fired

Jipper said:

i 100 percent agree and not all degrees are created equal....I am 38 and have a bachelors from Johns Hopkins and a masters from Carnegie Mellon....7 years after finishing my MBA I’m down to 29k in debt still....when all is said and done it will have cost me close to 250k including Tuiton living expense for going full time and interest.

however....the decision to go to that type of school for a higher education was something I did my calculations on and came up with a positive ROI...something very few do prior to embarking

many of the younger mellenials are still stuck in the 1980s mindset of get a college degree and you are guaranteed a good job, and this just simply isn’t true anymore....it’s a big part of why trade schools are on the way back.

I will say though that the debt struggle is real in large part due to the ridiculous inflation in costs by these undergrad schools....many increas tuition by double and triple the inflation rate annually without giving any additional return in earning power post graduation

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You hit on two very important points: not all degrees are equal and the hard-to-fathom cost of higher education. Gone are the days you can earn enough through a summer job to fund college education.

I was able to complete both my BS and MS and the only debt was buying a tank of gas driving to my new job.

yet no suspension, fine or firing..

Weak!

blueblood70 said:

yet no suspension, fine or firing..

Weak!

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The ratings for that show are abysmal. Today will probably the highest they've ever been.

He a disgusting creature. Always has been.

CowboysFaninHouston said:

so fox regrets having hired this bafoon. I know Fox in general goes for the shock value to create viewer ship, but there is a difference between shock value and stupidity. I hope he gets fired

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His four year contract ends this month. It would be a good time to let him walk.

brooksey1 said:

I don't know what everyone is so upset about..he said he shouldn't have went public with it but dealt with it internally with friends and family etc.. Did I miss something?

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I think the fact that he is an idiot and an attention seeking buffoon, amplified the comments. Mental illness is very serious and no one should be criticized for coming out and talking about it. I think this might actually help, as it's bringing attention to the situation. Dak coming out with it and not being ashamed to speak about it might save someone's life. Skip's criticism and all the grief he's getting might help people see that it's OK to talk about it. That's my take.

Blake said:

This isn't a sitcom with a bunch of writers and while the producers certainly influence the topics and subject matter I don't believe the show is as "scripted" as you imagine. Skip has the autonomy to say what's on his mind.

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We will have to disagree

the idea that this is just a conversation is silly.

They do pre show planning and prep every single day. Shannon and Skip lay out their point and counterpoint ahead of time and undoubtedly pick up the hot take issue of the day and decide which one will take the pro and which will take the con

This has been the work process of Skip and others like him (Stephen A for one), for years and years. There’s a formula.

a topic like this, I guarantee you, was Skip planning something hugely controversial and Shannon planning his reaction. This goes down to body language and facial expressions

These guys are professionals and work in a multi million dollar production environment where their careers and the careers of everyone working on the production depend on the product they put on the air.

Do you just go to work every day and wing it?

Big presentation? guess I’ll just throw up a blank PowerPoint and start typing as I’m talking to my audience.

Oh, new software rollout? Guess I’ll just do my coding on the fly and hope it all works out.

Putting in a new swimming pool for a customer? I’ll just show up with a backhoe and start digging.

The process itself is engineered to make it appear like a conversation. If it works, then viewers actually get a sense that it is just regular interaction.

It’s not just a couple of guys sitting at the bar arguing about sports over a beer

No apology from Skip this morning. Predictable.

Jipper said:

i 100 percent agree and not all degrees are created equal....I am 38 and have a bachelors from Johns Hopkins and a masters from Carnegie Mellon....7 years after finishing my MBA I’m down to 29k in debt still....when all is said and done it will have cost me close to 250k including Tuiton living expense for going full time and interest.

however....the decision to go to that type of school for a higher education was something I did my calculations on and came up with a positive ROI...something very few do prior to embarking

many of the younger mellenials are still stuck in the 1980s mindset of get a college degree and you are guaranteed a good job, and this just simply isn’t true anymore....it’s a big part of why trade schools are on the way back.

I will say though that the debt struggle is real in large part due to the ridiculous inflation in costs by these undergrad schools....many increas tuition by double and triple the inflation rate annually without giving any additional return in earning power post graduation

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it's been several years since i first read that the student debt was greater than the entire credit card debt of the country. it was stunning. i was fortunate in that my bs and ms were compliments of the naval academy and naval post grad school in monterrey. (i'm a boomer). the ph.d was at cornell and again, i was fortunate to receive some grants to make it affordable. it's criminal what it costs to be educated today. seems education is becoming the purview of only the most affluent members of our society.

Now we get to watch Skip give a crap apology

Well.. seems "nothing" happened, since this heartless cretin his on the show as usual.