2021 Starting Defense

Teague31 · Sep 14, 2020

Other than Diggs and maybe Aldon and Gregory is anyone else worth keeping? I understand the salary cap won’t allow us to flush the whole thing but I wish we could.

Dlaw- overrated and overpaid
Crawford- finally out the door
Poe/Woods- both awful and out the door
Hill- still a chance
Griffin- on a one year deal
LVE- needs to retire
Jaylon- just ugh. No business being an off ball LB. He’s either a pure 3-4 rush LB or nothing
Chido- the new almost Anthony
Woods- every year we get told this is his breakout and it never happens
Thompson- enough said
Brown- average at very best
Lewis- won’t be back.

yikes. Complete trash.

JoeyBoy718 · Sep 14, 2020

When did Aldon and Gregory become worth keeping? Gregory hasn't done a thing in about 5 years and he gets the benefit of the doubt. Also, it's funny how the only guys worth keeping are the ones who haven't proved their worth (or lack of) yet. You look at a shutdown corner like Byron Jones and he was never considered worth keeping. Now, the only guy worth keeping is someone with the potential to be as good as someone we already had.

Teague31 · Sep 14, 2020

JoeyBoy718 said:
When did Aldon and Gregory become worth keeping?

Aldon was the beat player out there. Maybe not saying much but still

Redline360 · Sep 14, 2020

The only player I'm excited about on defense would be A. Smith.

The rest I wouldnt care if we dumped the entire defense

Tangle_Foot · Sep 14, 2020

If you trying to make me feel better you're doing a very poor job :facepalm:

Nothing to do but wait for Sunday :flagwave:

Surely the results will be different

EST_1986 · Sep 14, 2020

JoeyBoy718 said:
When did Aldon and Gregory become worth keeping? Gregory hasn't done a thing in about 5 years and he gets the benefit of the doubt. Also, it's funny how the only guys worth keeping are the ones who haven't proved their worth (or lack of) yet. You look at a shutdown corner like Byron Jones and he was never considered worth keeping. Now, the only guy worth keeping is someone with the potential to be as good as someone we already had.

Aldon was the lone bright spot on the defense last night and everything else is so bad that all we can look forward to is Gregory returning

tm1119 · Sep 14, 2020

I get that we lost, but you should at least try to be rational in you’re end of the world threads...the D gave up 20 points. That’s more than good enough to win. Dumping the entire D after a solid outing makes literally 0 sense

Teague31 · Sep 14, 2020

tm1119 said:
I get that we lost, but you should at least try to be rational in you’re end of the world threads...the D gave up 20 points. That’s more than good enough to win. Dumping the entire D after a solid outing makes literally 0 sense

rams receivers don’t drop a bunch of passes the score is a lot worse than it was.

Hennessy_King · Sep 14, 2020

Teague31 said:
rams receivers don’t drop a bunch of passes the score is a lot worse than it was.

They also don't realize mcvey if tied or down goes for it when it was 4th & 1 at midfield instead of punting. And the way our defense played last night it would have been a 100% conversion.

Rajveer · Sep 14, 2020

tm1119 said:
I get that we lost, but you should at least try to be rational in you’re end of the world threads...the D gave up 20 points. That’s more than good enough to win. Dumping the entire D after a solid outing makes literally 0 sense

That outing was anything but solid. Solid outings don't have the opposing RBs run all over you. How many times did we give them free 5 yards for neutral zone infractions. I did not see any adjustments after the first half either. They could have dumped screen passes all night and still come out on top. I am still optimistic that they can turn things around. It was the first game with no preseason games to iron the kinks out. However the injury to LVE is not good and Lee is fragile as well. We need more help on this defense to turn things around. There is hope, but last night's outing was no where close to being called solid.

Future · Sep 14, 2020

Teague31 said:
rams receivers don’t drop a bunch of passes the score is a lot worse than it was.

The Cowboys had 4-5 drops too...This was far worse than any Rams drop, given where it happene.d.

12+88=7 · Sep 14, 2020

Teague31 said:
rams receivers don’t drop a bunch of passes the score is a lot worse than it was.

And if the call against Gallup goes the other way Dallas could win the game outright.

See how easy the what if game goes.

Fact of the matter was the defense allowed 20 points. In the 2nd half seven points. They did more than their job to give the offense a chance to win game. But it didn't happen.

The defense didn't play to perfection as the kool-aid drinkers wanted. But in the real world, they played good enough to win the game.

StarBoyz83 · Sep 14, 2020

worst part of the offense lost the game even with the rams handing them the game

robbesser · Sep 14, 2020

Our entire front 7 is mediocre garbage and has been for a long time. Randy Gregory? Who's that? Oh, right the guy who has played in what maybe 20 games since 2015 out of 86 possible games. He's also the one who committed 15-yard personal foul penalties at the worst times consistently. I still can't believe we haven’t let him go yet tbh I guess we're unable to admit we we're completely wrong about him.

On another note T Hill looked much better during his snaps last night and Diggs looks great and will only get better. We need LB's who don't over pursue and that can tackle. I spent the entire game just looking at #54 and he just looks totally lost out there. D Law was a non factor and not worth the contract he got so far. I mean we got probems up front and we've had them for a long time.

24LE · Sep 14, 2020

Teague31 said:
Other than Diggs and maybe Aldon and Gregory is anyone else worth keeping? I understand the salary cap won’t allow us to flush the whole thing but I wish we could.

Dlaw- overrated and overpaid
Crawford- finally out the door
Poe/Woods- both awful and out the door
Hill- still a chance
Griffin- on a one year deal
LVE- needs to retire
Jaylon- just ugh. No business being an off ball LB. He’s either a pure 3-4 rush LB or nothing
Chido- the new almost Anthony
Woods- every year we get told this is his breakout and it never happens
Thompson- enough said
Brown- average at very best
Lewis- won’t be back.

yikes. Complete trash.

24LE · Sep 14, 2020

Brutal but honest. Cannot believe how slow this defense looks in actual game action. I can already tell they need to draft LB with the first pick in 21.

24LE · Sep 14, 2020

robbesser said:
Our entire front 7 is mediocre garbage and has been for a long time. Randy Gregory? Who's that? Oh, right the guy who has played in what maybe 20 games since 2015 out of 86 possible games. He's also the one who committed 15-yard personal foul penalties at the worst times consistently. I still can't believe we haven’t let him go yet tbh I guess we're unable to admit we we're completely wrong about him.

On another note T Hill looked much better during his snaps last night and Diggs looks great and will only get better. We need LB's who don't over pursue and that can tackle. I spent the entire game just looking at #54 and he just looks totally lost out there. D Law was a non factor and not worth the contract he got so far. I mean we got probems up front and we've had them for a long time.

Agree... A.Smith looked real good for first time out as did Diggs. No speed at LB at all covering flats. How disappointing.

CowboyRoy · Sep 14, 2020

Teague31 said:
Other than Diggs and maybe Aldon and Gregory is anyone else worth keeping? I understand the salary cap won’t allow us to flush the whole thing but I wish we could.

Dlaw- overrated and overpaid
Crawford- finally out the door
Poe/Woods- both awful and out the door
Hill- still a chance
Griffin- on a one year deal
LVE- needs to retire
Jaylon- just ugh. No business being an off ball LB. He’s either a pure 3-4 rush LB or nothing
Chido- the new almost Anthony
Woods- every year we get told this is his breakout and it never happens
Thompson- enough said
Brown- average at very best
Lewis- won’t be back.

yikes. Complete trash.

Yah, this defense is in big big trouble. Lawrence and Diggs the only keepers. Rental DE's wont be around next year. You could honestly have 8 new starters next year and I wouldn't bat an eye.

Personally I try to resign Aldon immediately. I also play Wilson at safety just to see if he is good or not.

John813 · Sep 14, 2020

I doubt the linebackers will change at this moment starting wise.

Jaylon due to money and LVE due to potential.

I think we'll see a day 2 pick there though as insurance.
Now if LVE comes back week 9 and hurts his neck then the above is void.

ChuckA1 · Sep 14, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
Yah, this defense is in big big trouble. Lawrence and Diggs the only keepers. Rental DE's wont be around next year. You could honestly have 8 new starters next year and I wouldn't bat an eye.

Personally I try to resign Aldon immediately. I also play Wilson at safety just to see if he is good or not.

I'd like to try to keep Aldon Smith also. I thought he played very well. I also thought Diggs was great, all things considered. And, Thompson was terrible!

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