The Cowboys had the third-worst graded offensive line performance in Week 1 by PFF

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 16, 2020

Typhus said:
You ever watch Aikman play and why we ran play action so much with Emmitt?
You ever wonder why we went away from that concept with Dak, even Romo era?
Aikman was probably one of if not the most accurate QBs to ever play QB for this team.
If you have the ability to process and read the field quickly, then play action is in the play book.

Big difference between Norv Turner and Kellen Moore unfortunately.

Typhus · Sep 16, 2020

rocyaice said:
Dak's been one of the most accurate passers since entering the league so I don't know what this proves.......

and I dont know what you are watching,, sorry not trying to be harsh.
Im watching bad ball placement on a consistent basis on 3rd and crucial... the plays that matter the most.
Is there a stat for that?

Typhus · Sep 16, 2020

rocyaice said:
Big difference between Norv Turner and Kellen Moore unfortunately.

Well I certainly agree with that

aikemirv · Sep 16, 2020

rocyaice said:
Its only a joke when it doesn't align with the Dak hatred lol.

Nope, it's just a joke!

I said way before any of this whole discussion started on Monday that Dak did not play bad and that he played pretty well. I can find the post if you like.

Northern_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
No, I get it. You are sticking with your line despite getting destroyed on it.

I haven't compared anyone to Dak. I was simply laughing at your claim that Haskins was the lynch pin to their win on Sunday. Anyone that watched that game knows what really happened. Hell, you have the stats to look at and you still failed the test.

Nice try...slice it and dice it anyway you want The Washington offense led by Haskins put up 27 points while he was sacked 3 times and hit another 10 times The Cowboys offense led by Dak could only put up 17 while being sacked 3 times and hit 7 more times. Only point i'm making

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 16, 2020

Typhus said:
and I dont know what you are watching,, sorry not trying to be harsh.
Im watching bad ball placement on a consistent basis on 3rd and crucial... the plays that matter the most.
Is there a stat for that?

aikemirv · Sep 16, 2020

And by the way, Next Gen shows Dak was in the top level of time to throw at 2.82 seconds.

There is something amiss here!

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 16, 2020

aikemirv said:
Nope, it's just a joke!

I said way before any of this whole discussion started on Monday that Dak did not play bad and that he played pretty well. I can find the post if you like.

No need. PFF is flawed but its a much better way of gauging how this offensive line played then using a box score. I mean looking at the game.....that's some of the worst offensive line play you will see. Eagles were bad but half of those sacks were on Wentz goofing.

Northern_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2020

rocyaice said:
Jesus Christ.......let me spell it out.....when gauging how bad or good a offensive line did....there are hurries, hits, sacks.....the damn offensive line was ranked the 3rd worst in the league and you guys are trying to sit here and argue against it.....I'm not even sure what you are trying to do. Dak can play better. What else do you want? This game proves he can't play? I'm not even sure what your point is it got lost....

Anything PFF posts is a joke always has been, of course you believe in them so i guess you believe their preseason ranking that the Cowboys have the 3rd O-Line in the NFL?...so now we are adding hurries into it because your previous post was about sacks and hits and by the way hurries usually wind up being a QB hit just after he releases the pass, that's why he was hit because he was hurried

Northern_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2020

rocyaice said:

Guess that average will be going down after his 1-7 for 11 yards this past Sunday on 3rd down...i'll bet he can't wait to play the Giants and skins this year get those numbers up

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 16, 2020

aikemirv said:
And by the way, Next Gen shows Dak was in the top level of time to throw at 2.82 seconds.

There is something amiss here!

Where did you find that stat at?

Northern_Cowboy · Sep 16, 2020

aikemirv said:
And by the way, Next Gen shows Dak was in the top level of time to throw at 2.82 seconds.

There is something amiss here!

Ya what's amiss is any kind of PFF stat.....LOL...then again they are so screwed up they are probably the ones also saying he had 2.82 seconds to throw

Typhus · Sep 16, 2020

rocyaice said:

I baited you and pulled your strings,, dont hate me for that, but I knew you would throw up yet another meaningless stat.
As Ive always stated, and I dont care what anyone thinks,,I could care less about the pencil pushing stat line,
Means nothing, there is no stat that reflects taking a game over in crucial situations.
Its usually about 1 or 2 plays a game,, dont think that represents enough to be stat worthy, but it does win football games.

CowboyRoy · Sep 16, 2020

Typhus said:
Not about the dumb part, calling Northern Cowboy dumb is rather casual trolling.
Man puts plenty of relevant info on this sight, so lets chill with constantly calling out and degrading good posters on this forum.
But I agree with the Skins Defense being highly respectable,, that part of the Skins, needs to be taken serious.

I honestly dont care about posters and I don't follow posters. I find myself reacting the most to the laughable, less credible posts. I am actually begging the poster to offer up something credible. Most times I am disappointed. You are an easy target because everything you say about Dak is negative so it makes my job easy.

Lets just look at the Cowboys game. Dak outplayed Goff. One could argue that Goff was better on 3rd down. But was he really or was our defense just bad? But who won the game? Rams did.

Not as simply as who won the game in analyzing QB play. But you know this and pretend it makes sense.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 16, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
Anything PFF posts is a joke always has been, of course you believe in them so i guess you believe their preseason ranking that the Cowboys have the 3rd O-Line in the NFL?...so now we are adding hurries into it because your previous post was about sacks and hits and by the way hurries usually wind up being a QB hit just after he releases the pass, that's why he was hit because he was hurried

I thought were talking about pass protection? So in your eyes if a quarterback gets the ball out fast before he gets hit....that's not the offensive line failing?

PFF is a joke yet their stats are backed up by people actually in the NFL. When PFF ranks Lamar high they are wrong? PFF ranked Cowboys offensive line on what they thought it would be.

TheMarathonContinues · Sep 16, 2020

Typhus said:
I baited you and pulled your strings,, dont hate me for that, but I knew you would throw up yet another meaningless stat.
As Ive always stated, and I dont care what anyone thinks,,I could care less about the pencil pushing stat line,
Means nothing, there is no stat that reflects taking a game over in crucial situations.
Its usually about 1 or 2 plays a game,, dont think that represents enough to be stat worthy, but it does win football games.

You baited me to do what exactly? What was accomplished?

Typhus · Sep 16, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
I honestly dont care about posters and I don't follow posters. I find myself reacting the most to the laughable, less credible posts. I am actually begging the poster to offer up something credible. Most times I am disappointed. You are an easy target because everything you say about Dak is negative so it makes my job easy.

Lets just look at the Cowboys game. Dak outplayed Goff. One could argue that Goff was better on 3rd down. But was he really or was our defense just bad? But who won the game? Rams did.

Not as simply as who won the game in analyzing QB play. But you know this and pretend it makes sense.

Now that just made my day... lol

Typhus · Sep 16, 2020

rocyaice said:
You baited me to do what exactly? What was accomplished?

Nothing bro,, not so serious,,, just knew you would throw a stat up... that was my point...

CowboyRoy · Sep 16, 2020

Northern_Cowboy said:
Ya what's amiss is any kind of PFF stat.....LOL...then again they are so screwed up they are probably the ones also saying he had 2.82 seconds to throw

Big misconception in time to throw. It also could be "time until he throws". Take a look at Goff, they schemed to get the ball out early. So Goff was simply getting out quickly. Might make it seem like he had less time to throw. The Cowboys offense, for whatever reason has Dak drop back and sit there for 3 seconds almost on every play. Why? Its a big mystery to me. If you Oline is in shambles or the other team has a good pass rush, I would get it out quicker.

Now a guy like you is going to say it was Dak just holding the ball. However we have seen this all the way back to Romo.

CowboyRoy · Sep 16, 2020

Typhus said:
Now that just made my day... lol

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