The defense is a hot mess

Sydla

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does this explain why good pass rushers are not beating their man?

Griffen was very good for Minnesota last year. It's not like he was coming off a serious injury or anything. So why do guys that come here seemingly start to suck?

It's peculiar.
 

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Well they were good before they got here. Chido, Lewis and Diggs were all very good college players. Everson Griffen was good last year. They were good this offseason when y'all were predicting them to be a playoff team. Now they can't play? Please. You know what isn't good though?Mike Nolan. He's not sooo good.

if they suck for one coordinator and now suck for the new one what does that tell you? Griffin had a sack.
The players suck overall. It’s just reality. But I get it.....you hate Nolan and will push that agenda.
 

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And what is the history and past of our players. You guys are laughable blaming the coordinator.

There is talent issues for sure. I still think we have some issues at DT, for example.

But Nolan is not a very good DC. His last few stops as a DC he's not been quality at all. I am not sure why you guys just assume he's a good DC and he's just suffering from talent issues?
 

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There is talent issues for sure. I still think we have some issues at DT, for example.

But Nolan is not a very good DC. His last few stops as a DC he's not been quality at all. I am not sure why you guys just assume he's a good DC and he's just suffering from talent issues?

who said he was good?
 

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if they suck for one coordinator and now suck for the new one what does that tell you? Griffin had a sack.
The players suck overall. It’s just reality. But I get it.....you hate Nolan and will push that agenda.

Why do you like Nolan? What about his resume makes you think he's a really good DC being held back by talent?
 

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if they suck for one coordinator and now suck for the new one what does that tell you? Griffin had a sack.
The players suck overall. It’s just reality. But I get it.....you hate Nolan and will push that agenda.
Man get off your high horse. Just because someone doesn't like something out on the field you want dissect everything. Like I said...I'm hoping this is just a bumpy start to a solid finish but as of now he has not impress as a DC. Say what you want about our other coordinators but they at least started off solid and then fizzled out. This is suppose to be the honeymoon stage and I already want a divorce.
 

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Then why are you arguing with people that say Nolan isn't a very good DC and bears blame for this piss poor defense?
He's going to bat for him for whatever reason. He has not yet told me what there was to like about Nolan prior to him coming here.
 

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Man get off your high horse. Just because someone doesn't like something out on the field you want dissect everything. Like I said...I'm hoping this is just a bumpy start to a solid finish but as of now he has not impress as a DC. Say what you want about our other coordinators but they at least started off solid and then fizzled out. This is suppose to be the honeymoon stage and I already want a divorce.
You aren’t listening. This is about comments about the players. But by all means keep talking about Nolan.
 

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The defense gave up 270 yards and 19 points in the final 3 quarters once the offense stopped turning the ball over.

They gave up 130 yards and 7 points in the second half last week.

They’ve had some bad quarters, but they’re not abysmal by any stretch.
 

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You aren’t listening. This is about comments about the players. But by all means keep talking about Nolan.
This is about the DEFENSE. And the players are struggling in this defense specifically the defensive line. There's no pressure but he will rush 4 on clear passing downs at times. You are a fan of him. That's fine. I'm not as of now.

You are funny though...you blamed Garrett for last year......now you are saying you don't blame the coaches but the players lol....that's how I know you're a fan of Nolan and that's fine I'm rooting for him I just haven't seen it.
 

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This is about the DEFENSE. And the players are struggling in this defense specifically the defensive line. There's no pressure but he will rush 4 on clear passing downs at times. You are a fan of him. That's fine. I'm not as of now.

lol....I don’t like Nolan? You have to be drunk and stoned. No one is this stupid.
 

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It’s really bad and it’s mostly coverage issues.

Atlanta had more success moving the ball last week against Seattle than they did today. The point total today was wildly misleading. Atlanta actually drove the field for a grand total of 16 points.
 

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When Tristy Hill is your starting DT, you're a hot mess by definition. But, if the offense can put up 40 points, it might not matter,
 

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lol....I don’t like Nolan? You have to be drunk and stoned. No one is this stupid.
You are going to bat for a coach and blaming players when the coach sucks. You blamed Garrett last year but now you don't blame the coaches? And I'm the one that's stupid? You clearly are a fan of him and I don't get why you are lying.
 
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