Let’s admit something about Schultz

OmerV · Sep 23, 2020

CowboysExchange said:
How good does 25 years of irrelevance taste? Not too good to me.
Romo couldnt win with the non rotational everysnap te and neither can Dak. We always can get down to the red zone but can never punch it in.

I thought the Te was supposed to specialize in that.Apparently the tes are supposed to do everything but score if hes a Dallas Cowboy according to alot of folks. How about winning? You think Zeke and Dak gonna score 3 tds a game. Who is gonna score all those tds?

Our tes are never any good at scoring. They go 8-10 games without scoring and thats acceptable w no substitution?

Well not if Im the coach. I hope that schultz does well. But if this te core scores 1 lousy td all year until the last meaningless game against the Giants and the team goes 8-8 which is the W/L pace right now then who cares if they bench these tes or use substitution. Maybe the freshness or monotony will help if they run so 4 wr sets and dual rb formations.

Its not like were beating anybody. We didnt beat 2 teams with a winning record last year.

Why are you trying to prove that we need a te out there on every snap and defending that? Why do ya get angry about it?

What have these Tes done in 6 years? 3-4 tds a year against the Giants. Lol.

We got 14 other opponents besides the Giants. Lol.

And, again, it's nonsensical to pin 25 years of not winning the SB on one position, especially when many of those seasons were manned by an elite TE, and while ignoring that there have been other deficiencies in those years.

That's just fabricating an argument that makes no sense. It crosses into the realm of the idiotic.

By that nonsensical logic we would have to replace every player at every position because we haven't won the SB with the players at those positions either.

Besides, I've given you multiple examples of teams winning without the kind of TE you claim is essential to win, but you are so committed to this nonsensical position you ignore it.

It appears you would rather look ridiculous than acknowledge facts.

Of course the Cowboys would like to have an elite TE today, but, again, every team has a different combination of strengths and weaknesses, including at the TE position, and for you to choose to bury your head in the sand rather than acknowledge the truth of that is laughable.

But, considering you ongoing willingness to just make things up and present them as fact, I shouldn't be surprised.

CowboysExchange · Sep 23, 2020

OmerV said:
And, again, it's nonsensical to pin 25 years of not winning the SB on one position, especially when many of those seasons were manned by an elite TE, and while ignoring that there have been other deficiencies in those years.

That's just fabricating an argument that makes no sense. It crosses into the realm of the idiotic.

By that nonsensical logic we would have to replace every player at every position because we haven't won the SB with the players at those positions either.

Besides, I've given you multiple examples of teams winning without the kind of TE you claim is essential to win, but you are so committed to this nonsensical position you ignore it.

It appears you would rather look ridiculous than acknowledge facts.

Of course the Cowboys would like to have an elite TE today, but, again, every team has a different combination of strengths and weaknesses, including at the TE position, and for you to choose to bury your head in the sand rather than acknowledge the truth of that is laughable.

But, considering you ongoing willingness to just make things up and present them as fact, I shouldn't be surprised.

If Zeke was scoring 4 tds a year against scrub teams and picking up 25 yards a game and getting all the snaps Id be conplaining about his snapcounts also.

Same applies to the 2nd and 3rd receiver who have to block too. Lmao.

Do they all get a free pass to NOT BE GREAT ALSO?

If your picking a team you dont pick hoping you get a good blocking te so he can play every passing snap.

Youre prolly right? Weve won all these playoff games w these Unproven Bargain Basement Tes. If it wasnt for them and our Bargain Basement Safety we'd be an 8-8 team. Right?

Cmon Rogers. Im quoting facts. At what point do we start rotating these slot wrs and rbs and pull the plug on this Dalton Schultz Led Passing Offense and make it into a Tony Pollard or Noah Brown Led Offense.

When he gets hurt like Swaim? After hes gone 12 games w 1 td. Lol.

Are we gonna declare all of the passing snaps to him since hes the last man standing. Lmao.

OmerV · Sep 23, 2020

CowboysExchange said:
If Zeke was scoring 4 tds a year against scrub teams and picking up 25 yards a game and getting all the snaps Id be conplaining about his snapcounts also.

Same applies to the 2nd and 3rd receiver who have to block too. Lmao.

Do they all get a free pass to NOT BE GREAT ALSO?

lol, RB's versus TE's - dumb analogy.

And, here you are again burying your head in the sand to the fact Dalton isn't "getting all the snaps". Just a continued testament to your commitment to stick with a narrative despite the facts. You find what you make up fits your narrative more than truth, so you stick with what you make up.

Nobody said the TE gets a free pass. Obviously we would all love to have Travis Kelce. But that's just another of your endless stream of strawman arguments. The point clearly is that everything does not fall on one position the way you claim, and having an elite TE is not the only way a team can win, like you claim.

CowboysExchange · Sep 23, 2020

OmerV said:
lol, RB's versus TE's - dumb analogy.

And, here you are again burying your head in the sand to the fact Dalton isn't "getting all the snaps". Just a continued testament to your commitment to stick with a narrative despite the facts. You find what you make up fits your narrative more than truth, so you stick with what you make up.

Nobody said the TE gets a free pass. Obviously we would all love to have Travis Kelce. But that's just another of your endless stream of strawman arguments. The point clearly is that everything does not fall on one position the way you claim, and having an elite TE is not the only way a team can win, like you claim.

How long before they start rotating Noah Brown and Tony Pollard some?

Is Schultz gonna be on all the 3rd and 15 and 20 passing plays and all of the Red zone plays like Witten Swaim and Jarwin? Lmao.

How long before we start seeing some substitution Rogers if by chance our prince turn into a frog playing every passing snap?

The whole year? 3 games?
How do we approach these te snapcounts since the Next man up is just really the LAST MAN STANDING. LMAO

Since we know Brown and Pollard are both better skilled players than witten, Jarwin and Swaim.

Should we just assume a te is gonna be out there on every passing play and give the 100% snapcount role to schultz and the other tes

OmerV · Sep 23, 2020

CowboysExchange said:
How long before they start rotating Noah Brown and Tony Pollard some?

Is Schultz gonna be on all the 3rd and 15 and 20 passing plays and all of the Red zone plays like Witten Swaim and Jarwin? Lmao.

How long before we start seeing some substitution Rogers if by chance our prince turn into a frog playing every passing snap?

The whole year? 3 games?
How do we approach these te snapcounts since the Next man up is just really the LAST MAN STANDING. LMAO

Until you can quit ignoring facts presented to you, and quit flat out making up whatever you want, and quit with the nonsensical strawman arguments, reasonable conversation with you isn't possible.

Typhus · Sep 23, 2020

CowboysExchange said:
How long before they start rotating Noah Brown and Tony Pollard some?

Is Schultz gonna be on all the 3rd and 15 and 20 passing plays and all of the Red zone plays like Witten Swaim and Jarwin? Lmao.

How long before we start seeing some substitution Rogers if by chance our prince turn into a frog playing every passing snap?

The whole year? 3 games?
How do we approach these te snapcounts since the Next man up is just really the LAST MAN STANDING. LMAO

Since we know Brown and Pollard are both better skilled players than witten, Jarwin and Swaim.

Should we just assume a te is gonna be out there on every passing play and give the 100% snapcount role to schultz and the other tes

Good thought process,, and agree.
Having both Brown.. under utilized and Pollard,, under utilized is intriguing.
Both have flashed a serviceable role.
If this team is going to be able to beat the the Seattle Seahawks and LA Rams of this league,, than future contributors have to become house hold names on this team.
Brown and Pollard can be really big this year for Dak.

CowboysExchange · Sep 23, 2020

Typhus said:
Good thought process,, and agree.
Having both Brown.. under utilized and Pollard,, under utilized is intriguing.
Both have flashed a serviceable role.
If this team is going to be able to beat the the Seattle Seahawks and LA Rams of this league,, than future contributors have to become house hold names on this team.
Brown and Pollard can be really big this year for Dak.

Cuz you the te Narcissist. If they arent playing all the passing snaps then you think everybody else is stupid?

If they had some talent i might understand your thinking? We'll just leave all the winning skillsets on the bench.

CowboysExchange · Sep 23, 2020

Typhus said:
Good thought process,, and agree.
Having both Brown.. under utilized and Pollard,, under utilized is intriguing.
Both have flashed a serviceable role.
If this team is going to be able to beat the the Seattle Seahawks and LA Rams of this league,, than future contributors have to become house hold names on this team.
Brown and Pollard can be really big this year for Dak.

Were gonna pull out cooper gallop Lamb or zeke to play pollard and noah brown.

Anybody but Dalton schultz or blake bell.

Rogers is a GENIUS

jblaze2004 · Sep 23, 2020

Typhus said:
Good thought process,, and agree.
Having both Brown.. under utilized and Pollard,, under utilized is intriguing.
Both have flashed a serviceable role.
If this team is going to be able to beat the the Seattle Seahawks and LA Rams of this league,, than future contributors have to become house hold names on this team.
Brown and Pollard can be really big this year for Dak.

So you want to bench Lamb, Gallup or Coop to get brown involved?
You want to bench Zeke who has been good to get Pollard involved? I mean getting pollard a few carries or catches is easier then getting brown catches (unless injury of course). Zeke gets spelled by pollard but when you have a back like zeke you use him. Imagine benching prime emmitt smith to get the back up more looks.
Look at Zeke carries. Its not like we are over using him getting him 30-40 carries a game. Pollard will get his times to shine. When they come I am sure he will make the most of them.

I do like that last game we had both zeke and pollard out there a few snaps together in the backfield. I would love to see that formation more.

charron · Sep 23, 2020

Would like to see more of these games from him

CowboysExchange · Sep 23, 2020

jblaze2004 said:
So you want to bench Lamb, Gallup or Coop to get brown involved?
You want to bench Zeke who has been good to get Pollard involved? I mean getting pollard a few carries or catches is easier then getting brown catches (unless injury of course). Zeke gets spelled by pollard but when you have a back like zeke you use him. Imagine benching prime emmitt smith to get the back up more looks.
Look at Zeke carries. Its not like we are over using him getting him 30-40 carries a game. Pollard will get his times to shine. When they come I am sure he will make the most of them.

I do like that last game we had both zeke and pollard out there a few snaps together in the backfield. I would love to see that formation more.

No. Id like to bench the tes for Brown and Pollard. But Rogers will tell ya how stupid ya are. He loves the mediocre te core. Its the key to the Cowboys Greatness

CowboysExchange · Sep 23, 2020

jblaze2004 said:
So you want to bench Lamb, Gallup or Coop to get brown involved?
You want to bench Zeke who has been good to get Pollard involved? I mean getting pollard a few carries or catches is easier then getting brown catches (unless injury of course). Zeke gets spelled by pollard but when you have a back like zeke you use him. Imagine benching prime emmitt smith to get the back up more looks.
Look at Zeke carries. Its not like we are over using him getting him 30-40 carries a game. Pollard will get his times to shine. When they come I am sure he will make the most of them.

I do like that last game we had both zeke and pollard out there a few snaps together in the backfield. I would love to see that formation more.

Id like to see way more dual rbs and dual slot wrs.

If all i had was #82, Swaim, Jarwin, or Dalton Shultz I would definitely use a te as sparingly as possible.

Jerry Jones wont let the tes come off the field. Hes got an obsession for these checkdown tes

CowboysExchange · Sep 23, 2020

Typhus said:
Good thought process,, and agree.
Having both Brown.. under utilized and Pollard,, under utilized is intriguing.
Both have flashed a serviceable role.
If this team is going to be able to beat the the Seattle Seahawks and LA Rams of this league,, than future contributors have to become house hold names on this team.
Brown and Pollard can be really big this year for Dak.

Sorry Typhus. That statement was meant for Omer aka Rogers.

RustyBourneHorse · Sep 24, 2020

Aviano90 said:
Anybody else see he got punched in the face mask on the fumble? I get trying to punch the ball out but when you also connect with the face mask it should be a personal foul.

Agreed, that was a huge missed penalty.

CowboysExchange · Sep 24, 2020

OmerV said:
lol, RB's versus TE's - dumb analogy.

And, here you are again burying your head in the sand to the fact Dalton isn't "getting all the snaps". Just a continued testament to your commitment to stick with a narrative despite the facts. You find what you make up fits your narrative more than truth, so you stick with what you make up.

Nobody said the TE gets a free pass. Obviously we would all love to have Travis Kelce. But that's just another of your endless stream of strawman arguments. The point clearly is that everything does not fall on one position the way you claim, and having an elite TE is not the only way a team can win, like you claim.

Nobody gets a free pass but swaim played every run and passing snap when witten retired. He had no stats to win the job. He had 1 td all year w No substitution.

Same as Jarwin and now Schultz. You want to give them all the snaps. Lol

And your boy Witten played past his era and prime for 6-7 years playing all the Running and passing snaps w no substitution and subpar stats.

The 2nd te played 20-25% of all passing snaps and Beasely with the highest open rate in the Entire league had to play a spot player role behind a non producing 2nd te. Lol.

Most of these te didnt do squat to earn their positions. Once they got it and didnt produce there was no substitution.

Beasely didnt even get a starting role and had the highest open rate in the Entire league.

Sounds like a free pass to me.

Can someone in this Forum start a te passing snapcount tracker for these tes.

OmerV · Sep 24, 2020

CowboysExchange said:
Nobody gets a free pass but swaim played every run and passing snap when witten retired. He had no stats to win the job. He had 1 td all year w No substitution.

Same as Jarwin and now Schultz. You want to give them all the snaps. Lol

And your boy Witten played past his era and prime for 6-7 years playing all the Running and passing snaps w no substitution and subpar stats.

The 2nd te played 20-25% of all passing snaps and Beasely with the highest open rate in the Entire league had to play a spot player role behind a non producing 2nd te. Lol.

Most of these te didnt do squat to earn their positions. Once they got it and didnt produce there was no substitution.

Beasely didnt even get a starting role and had the highest open rate in the Entire league.

Sounds like a free pass to me.

Can someone in this Forum start a te passing snapcount tracker for these tes.

AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN …

You are talking about players from 2018 as if that applies to Schultz today. It doesn't, so you have no point. As for Beasley, he played on passing downs. A TE doesn't prevent a 3rd receiver, so you have no point. As for Witten, I agree completely Witten got too many snaps late in his career, so, again, you have no point.

Now, for the lying …

I have shown you that Schultz doesn't play every down, and repeated that several times, yet you are still claiming it. That constitutes a lie.

I have never said I want Schultz to play every down, and have, in fact said, I have no problem with the occastional 2 RB or 4 WR set, so claiming otherwise also constitutes a lie.

If you have to rely on past history under different circumstance, made up statistics and flat out lies to fabricate a point, that means you have no point.

CowboysExchange · Sep 24, 2020

OmerV said:
AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN …

You are talking about players from 2018 as if that applies to Schultz today. It doesn't, so you have no point. As for Beasley, he played on passing downs. A TE doesn't prevent a 3rd receiver, so you have no point. As for Witten, I agree completely Witten got too many snaps late in his career, so, again, you have no point.

Now, for the lying …

I have shown you that Schultz doesn't play every down, and repeated that several times, yet you are still claiming it. That constitutes a lie.

I have never said I want Schultz to play every down, and have, in fact said, I have no problem with the occastional 2 RB or 4 WR set, so claiming otherwise also constitutes a lie.

If you have to rely on past history under different circumstance, made up statistics and flat out lies to fabricate a point, that means you have no point.

Were trying to Leave tes out there that can match witten in his decline. Not the player he was in his prime.

We have a history of doing it. If hes a scrub we need to sub.

How many offensive passing plays did we run without a te. If it wasnt schultz it was bell. The other scrub. Lol.

You the everydown te narc. and none of these tes are good. Youd rather lose w a te than use better wrs and rbs. Lol

If they are so good how come we have trash red zone scoring stats for years. Its everybody elses fault. The tes have had a free pass living off #82 free pass.

OmerV · Sep 24, 2020

CowboysExchange said:
Were trying to Leave tes out there that can match witten in his decline. Not the player he was in his prime.

We have a history of doing it. If hes a scrub we need to sub.

How many offensive passing plays did we run without a te. If it wasnt schultz it was bell. The other scrub. Lol.

You the everydown te narc. and none of these tes are good. Youd rather lose w a te than use better wrs and rbs. Lol

If they are so good how come we have trash red zone scoring stats for years. Its everybody elses fault. The tes have had a free pass living off #82 free pass.

This is still arguing what happened in the past and pretending it applies to the present.

And this is still fabricating your own facts and telling outright lies. False accusations and untruths are what dishonest people rely on when they cannot attack the argument.

You can't lie your way to a point. The attempt to do so is not only laughable, but it speaks to your lack of character.

THEHEREAFTER · Sep 24, 2020

looks like he's not the athlete that Jarwin is but may have a better rapport with Dak. I can't remember the last time one our TE's caught 9 outside of Witt

kskboys · Sep 24, 2020

CowboysExchange said:
Nobody gets a free pass but swaim played every run and passing snap when witten retired. He had no stats to win the job. He had 1 td all year w No substitution.

Same as Jarwin and now Schultz. You want to give them all the snaps. Lol

And your boy Witten played past his era and prime for 6-7 years playing all the Running and passing snaps w no substitution and subpar stats.

The 2nd te played 20-25% of all passing snaps and Beasely with the highest open rate in the Entire league had to play a spot player role behind a non producing 2nd te. Lol.

Most of these te didnt do squat to earn their positions. Once they got it and didnt produce there was no substitution.

Beasely didnt even get a starting role and had the highest open rate in the Entire league.

Sounds like a free pass to me.

Can someone in this Forum start a te passing snapcount tracker for these tes.

The 2nd TE is often mostly a blocking TE. Which makes your request for passing stats irrelevant.

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