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He looks athletic and sure-handed. Can't imagine Jarwin would have done anything more than Schultz is.
 

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The 2nd TE is often mostly a blocking TE. Which makes your request for passing stats irrelevant.
He has never grasped the concept of a blocking TE. He thinks of a TE solely as another WR who may line up in a different spot. I've tried to explain to him that a TE is a hybrid who can function both as an inline blocker and a receiver, but he doesn't grasp that either. He purely has a fantasy football mindset.
 

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He wasnt even touched Rogers. I call that a Breakdown. Trying to do more than his God given Ability.

So do we need to run some dual rb formations and 4 wr formations on occasion or keep rolling with Schultz and the rest of these Bargain Basement tes dominating the Skilled players Snapcounts. Just like we do at Safety every year. Lmao.

Hurray and Answer with your te narcissism. I love tes too but not these sorry scrubs or the shell of the former hof te.

We can have a steak at every position besides te and we'll still go Playoffless using these scrub tes as everydown receivers. Lmao.

Your assessment is wrong going on 7 years and every year your Te Narcissism sounds great IN THEORY but there is NEVER ANY PAPER STATS TO BACK THEM UP!!!
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looks like he's not the athlete that Jarwin is but may have a better rapport with Dak. I can't remember the last time one our TE's caught 9 outside of Witt
Of course, Schultz may have been an afterthought for the Falcons defense, who no doubt didn't expect him to be used that often. It will be interesting to see how it works out this week, but I was thrilled with what we got Sunday.
 

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What we did w witten, escobar, swaim, and Jarwin is prolly what we'll do with schultz and Bell based upon what ive seen.

This te core has been trash for 6+ years. We need a red zone te who is a scorer first and foremost. 4tds a year doesnt justify all this te involvement esp when you got an 8-8 team and supposedly the best offense in football.
Were the best offense when were playing trash teams and the worst offense against good teams.

For 6+ years this te core has not added much to our passing game. They are holding the good skilled players back.

This team and all that theory of the tes does not equate to wins. The talent at te equates to losing with 4 tds. Lol
 

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What we did w witten, escobar, swaim, and Jarwin is prolly what we'll do with schultz and Bell based upon what ive seen.

This te core has been trash for 6+ years. We need a red zone te who is a scorer first and foremost. 4tds a year doesnt justify all this te involvement esp when you got an 8-8 team and supposedly the best offense in football.
Were the best offense when were playing trash teams and the worst offense against good teams.

For 6+ years this te core has not added much to our passing game. They are holding the good skilled players back.
What you've seen is wrong, but then again, you clearly only see what you want, and ignore facts and statistics that don't fit what you want to see.

I explained Schultz only played 70% of the snaps, and you keep claiming he played all snaps. As for Jarwin and Escobar, they have never played close to all snaps, so what you are saying about them makes no sense.

I find your timing for stirring this up funny anyway considering the huge impact Schultz had on the game Sunday.
 

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What you've seen is wrong, but then again, you clearly only see what you want, and ignore facts and statistics that don't fit what you want to see.

I explained Schultz only played 70% of the snaps, and you keep claiming he played all snaps.

I find your timing for stirring this up funny anyway considering the huge impact Schultz had on the game Sunday.

We won on a fluke bro.
Did he do it against a good team. Heck no
Did any te do it in 6+ years in a playoff game. Heck naw.

They folded like a cheap suit and so did we.

Do you think schultz and Bell are a Better weapon than pollard or brown?

Youre talking about schemes and duties and im telling you a 4 wr scheme is better than a te scheme when you got no talent at the position.
 

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Swain is gonna be serviceable
But never was

Rico was gonna be good
But never was

Then Jarwin
But never was

Now Schultz
But never will be

Witten was not serviceable for 6+years

These tes are ALL HYPE. SHOW ME ON PAPER FOR 6 YEARS WHERE THEY THRIVED ON PASSING DOWNS

GIMME ONE STAT LINE

8-8 forever

Pigs will fly before this scheme wins beans w 2 scrub tes dominating passing snaps
 
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Swain is gonna be serviceable
But never was

Rico was gonna be good
But never was

Then Jarwin
But never was

Now Schultz
But never will be

Witten was not serviceable for 6+years

These tes are ALL HYPE. SHOW ME ON PAPER FOR 6 YEARS WHERE THEY THRIVED ON PASSING DOWNS

GIMME ONE STAT LINE

8-8 forever

Pigs will fly before this scheme wins beans w 2 scrub tes dominating passing snaps
Jarwin was looking really good before the injury. Schultz had a good game yesterday, and hopefully he can build on that.

Maybe it's less about the TE, and more about who the QB chooses to throw to.
 

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We won on a fluke bro.
Did he do it against a good team. Heck no
Did any te do it in 6+ years in a playoff game. Heck naw.

They folded like a cheap suit and so did we.

Do you think schultz and Bell are a Better weapon than pollard or brown?

Youre talking about schemes and duties and im telling you a 4 wr scheme is better than a te scheme when you got no talent at the position.

How does winning on a fluke matter? Do you really not understand that the "fluke" couldn't have happened if the offense hadn't already scored 37 points? Do you really not understand that the outstanding play of those that helped score all the points and get all the first downs to be in that position was why the "fluke" was possible?

Your sense of logic is astonishingly underwhelming.

As for playoffs, Witten had 6 catches for 59 yards and a TD against GB in 2016, and overall averaged 61 yards per game in the playoffs, so yes, there have been contributions by TEs in the playoffs.

You really should learn to research a little before spouting off. It makes you look bad almost every time.
 

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How does winning on a fluke matter? Do you really not understand that the "fluke" couldn't have happened if the offense hadn't already scored 37 points? Do you really not understand that the outstanding play of those that helped score all the points and get all the first downs to be in that position was why the "fluke" was possible?

You sense of logic is so underdeveloped it's hard to understand how you function in the world.

As for playoffs, Witten had 6 catches for 59 yards and a TD against GB in 2016, and overall averaged 61 yards per game in the playoffs, so yes, there have been contributions by TEs in the playoffs.

You really should learn to research a little before spouting off. It makes you look bad almost every time.

Witten sucked for years. We lost against Gb btw. Their te made the winning play

We won against detroit in the same choking fashion as Atlanta.

We'll need 3 straight chokefests to win a Superbowl i guess

What did these tes do in all of the elimination games and lost playoff games. Lol.

We cant beat any good teams in the regular season. Much less in the playoffs
 

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Swain is gonna be serviceable
But never was

Rico was gonna be good
But never was

Then Jarwin
But never was

Now Schultz
But never will be

Witten was not serviceable for 6+years

These tes are ALL HYPE. SHOW ME ON PAPER FOR 6 YEARS WHERE THEY THRIVED ON PASSING DOWNS

GIMME ONE STAT LINE

8-8 forever

Pigs will fly before this scheme wins beans w 2 scrub tes dominating passing snaps
lol - Rico almost never played - he was an experiment … Jarwin was only a starter for part of one game before getting injured … during the 6 year time frame you mention with Witten, he clearly was serviceable for the first 3 or so, and nobody is arguing that he didn't tail off the last part of that, but that was on Garrett (who, you still don't seem to have noticed, is no longer with the team). It's amazing to what extent you are willing to go to make nonsense points while desperately clinging to a narrative.
 
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Schultz will break down playing too many snaps. Hes not that guy and mother nature will show ya.
 

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lol - Rico never played - he was an experiment … Jarwin was only a starter for part of one game before getting injured … during the 6 year time frame you mention with Witten, he clearly was serviceable for the first 3 or so, and nobody is arguing that he didn't tail off the last part of that, but that was on Garrett (who, you still don't seem to have noticed, is no longer with the team). It's amazing to what extent you are willing to go to make nonsense points while desperately clinging to a narrative.
Its on Jerry
These coaches are puppets
If jerry pays him he plays them
 

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Witten sucked for years. We lost against Gb btw. Their te made the winning play

We won against detroit in the same choking fashion as Atlanta.

We'll need 3 straight chokefests to win a Superbowl i guess

What did these tes do in all of the elimination games and lost playoff games. Lol.

We cant beat any good teams in the regular season. Much less in the playoffs
Well damn, Zack Martin, Tyron Smith, Zeke Elliott and everyone else on that 2016 team sucks then too …. after all, if losing decides the quality of play of one player, it has to with every player.

Do you really not understand the incredibly ridiculous logic you are using when you say losing means the TE played poorly, but not applying the same standard to all players. My god man, a kindergartner can understand that.
 

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Its on Jerry
These coaches are puppets
If jerry pays him he plays them
Neither Jerry or Garrett played Rico. The only year he was on the active roster he only played 13% of the snaps. Again, you are spouting off without bothering to understand the facts. You don't EVER seem to have any facts.
 

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Neither Jerry or Garrett played Rico. The only year he was on the active roster he only played 13% of the snaps. Again, you are spouting off without bothering to understand the facts. You don't EVER seem to have any facts.

Rico was all hype. Thats what you get from these tes. All hype. No black n white stats.

Were talking about skilled players. Rico didnt play any snaps. So much about the cowboys is hype.

The cowboys have always had better receivers and rbs than tes. Talent doesnt override this ignorant next man up scheme.

I we had earl campbell and zeke youd never see a dual rb formation.

Stupid losing 8-8 scheme.
 

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Rico was all hype. Thats what you get from these tes. All hype. No black n white stats.

Were talking about skilled players. Rico didnt play any snaps. So much about the cowboys is hype.

The cowboys have always had better receivers and rbs than tes. Talent doesnt override this ignorant next man up scheme.

I we had earl campbell and zeke youd never see a dual rb formation.

Stupid losing 8-8 scheme.
Yes. Rico was all hype ….so?

The Cowboys took a chance to see if he could develop, he did not, so they dumped him without ever giving him any notable playing time. So what?

And yes, Rico did play some snaps, just not a lot. Again, you have no idea what you are talking about, and that's even with me having already told you the facts.

Learn the TE position - quit lying - quit falsely stating my position to manufacture ridiculous arguments - quit manufacturing your own stats that don't fit with the actual ones - quit pretending ridiculous comments are a substitute for logic - learn the facts before you spout out anything.

Considering your apparent inability to find facts online I have to wonder how you found this site.
 

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If you told me were gonna put Dak Cooper Gallop Lamb Zeke and Pollard on the field Id feel like our offense could compete with anybody.

Take pollard out and insert Noah Brown who had a 20 yard reception and an 8 yard reception and i feel the same.

Take out either and add schultz or Bell on passing plays and I feel like our Potency Drops Considerably. At least 40-50%

I certainly didnt see Pollard or Brown fumble or make any bonehead mistakes but I saw Schultz make a few.

We can talk about the great game schultz had. But theres no denying that he fumbled. Theres no denying that he was part of a passing play that had he not batted down coulda easily been an interception and imo the Dak fumble was partly caused from Schultz not disengaging from his block fast enough to move up field.

Imo Pollard has more big play capability than Jarwin Schultz and Bell w less mistakes.

Id like to see more of Pollard. Hes more capable of making a gamechanging play than any of these tes.

Ive personally hated this bunk next man up scheme for several years because we never have the best 6 skilled players on the field at one time.

Every year our slot wrs and 2nd rb has put up better production per passing snapcount than these tes. But they dont get any snaps.

I do love the te position and Im very familiar with their roles on this team. I just dont see enough talent as receivers to justify keeping better weapons on the bench.

When its 3rd and 20 and you have schultz Jarwin swaim or the Shell of 82 out there running routes and coming up empty for 7 years its very frustrating esp when were 8-8 and the team is losing. It shows me that there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SNAPCOUNTS and is A FREE PASS for these tes.

You talk about player development and how #82 held Jarwins progress back. Lol. Well how about being a progress stopper for every slot wr and 2nd rb weve had on this team for 7 years. That is the real progress stoppage. They have been proven better in Black and white and still taking a back seat to the new tes who are all Hope or Hype.

I cant wait for this scrub te core to fold like a cheap suit this weekend against a superbowl contender. Lol.

My eyes never Lie. I know what a trash te core looks like. Im not buying into your hope and hype when i know that right there in black and white there is at least 1-2 better weapons on this team who have more proven upside on paper than these two flat footed mistake prone scrub tes. Lmao.

I love it when yall hype up these tes. That just means more of your cash in my pocket come Playoff Time. I clean up every year on your te hope and hype. 1 playoff td in 16 years and even that was in a losing effort.
 
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