News: G Bag - Kellen Moore heating up

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McCarthy is not one them show his full hand type of coach, he keeps talking about building towards the end so you're playing your best football going into the playoffs. This is exactly one of the reasons he's always kicked JG in the nads in the playoffs even though we would start the year off fast. I think they're not showing their hand with using Pollard just yet until teams start slowing down and stopping the first tier set of weapons first. But that's just my take, because Pollard is one heck of a pocket ace to pull out later on in the season when teams are more beat up and legs are tired. His speed will give us an extra element of explosiveness, I personally don't think he's needed just yet.
 

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So..

Do you think we have somebody who critiques Moore?

Is it just Mc Carthy or others?

The reason I ask is that Moore called such a poor game in the 1st game..

and things changed so radically in the Atlanta game with the play calls.

Where did this eminate from?

It can't just be they substituted Pepsi Light with original Coke as Moore's beverage on the sideline.

And if Moore is that psycho with his playcalling..how do we harness Good Moore and sit Bad Moore?

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Sorry for this being so long. But your questions created a much deeper reply than just a surface comment. And my reply might be full of bull nuggets.

I'm not certain anyone on this board has a clue to how the hierarchy of the coaching staff works. My thoughts are Mac reviews Moore's play calling. They surely have meetings to go through how he called plays. What worked and what did not. But again, this is only what I think and based on nothing.

Logically speaking the coaches review their work, just like the players. They are held accountable, just like the players. Where that might deviate is when the players receive the game plan, they learn their assignments. In the case of Moore, I suspect he submits a game plan and he and Mac go through it. Changes are made. I would suspect in the off season they review film of the opponents and have a skeleton game plan going into training camp. As more games are played, more information is gleaned and that game plan is honed to fit the possibilities of what the squads will face.

The playbook could have as many as 300 plays. That might be a low figure. It depends on how detailed the head coach is. Each week the offensive coordinator, or head coach, assembles the list of plays they will run in the game plan. The team practices those plays. Obviously there are routine plays they run every week. I assume both passing and rushing. So the gadget plays, or plays specific to the defense they will face if they find a weakness would be inserted for that week. All this added to the skeleton game plan of who the team is, rushing primary or passing primary, to evolve into what they feel is a winning strategy.

Prior to the first SB against the Bills, Jimmy was watching a sportscast leading up to the game during SB week. He saw the Bills running the shovel pass to the RB, He called up Dave Wannstedt and asked if the Bills ever ran that play during the season or play-offs. Wannstedt got back to him and said no.

Dallas practiced for that play, and stuffed the Bills every time they ran it. So the Bills brought out a play where they were certain the Cowboys were too aggressive and would open an opportunity. But good coaches and great ones like Jimmy Johnson were always vigilant and paying attention to the most minute detail.

My take on the first game and the results had many fathers that created that fiasco. The Rams were better than this fanbase thought. Dallas was unprepared. The new installation of a head coach and his philosophies and plays, married to the real issues brought on by this crazy year for everyone in this country had a hand

But, but, but, the Rams didn't play poorly. And while they changed a few coaches, there was not a wholesale adjustment needed for a new coaching staff. Those two teams were nowhere near apples to apples as far as the changes in coaching staff. Anyone who wants to use that comparison to claim the circumstances were equal are wrong.

The real folly I believe was the fan base assumed just because Mac watched 20 millions hours of football, he would then hit the ground running and install this juggernaut offense, completely discounting the issues of the day outside of football.

"We beat the Rams last year, so...." The extrapolation there is we should beat them again. No two plays are alike. The ball has two pointy ends and bounces funny. The Pats game last year is my example. I wonder if they played in Dallas out of the elements if Dallas would have beaten the Pats fairly handily. But then I am also applying the same logic I was calling out in this paragraph earlier. Fans are unrealistic. Me included.

I think fans are influenced by the media which was heralding the Cowboys in the off season. Last year Dak and company were the second most productive passing game. The press sees that and either takes one side or the other and talks up or down the franchise. Fan's expectations by nature are either sky high, or down in the dumps going into a season when the team missed the play-offs the year before. Expectations for every professional football team going into the season are rarely accurate.

I believe as time wears on, and health is regained, or at least doesn't get any worse, this offense will start to gin. What we saw on Sunday will be more the norm than an aberration. Moore will get comfortable with this offense, and his confidence will grow. Which means he will gamble a little more because of the confidence. The results is the offense will become a little more unpredictable. He is young and still in a position which is teaching him rather than him owning it. I bet Norv Turner wasn't the all-knowing offensive play caller when he first started.

Patience is difficult for this fan base. First the 20 something years of pure mediocrity will always be a cloud over this team until they become successful. The fact the off season is so dang long, and when your team is destined for no play-offs as the season moves on, that makes the time to take the field next season even longer. So fans want results, and where a team will be in late December is a work in progress. And impatience grows. Becomes multiplied by many factors.

But fans expect it to be at its best from the first snap.

And in the big scheme of things, it might take Mac this entire season before he gets the pieces in place.

This team is playing a team sport. There are many moving pieces and it takes time to gel. We as fans of this team need to temper our expectations and allow this team to grow into their full fruit.
 

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Best thing about it all is that Kellen Moore made adjustments and kept his foot on the gas. We started out with an offense that looked eerily like those past offenses where we handed to Zeke on first down and then had long-developing pass plays and then we shifted into something much more up tempo and suited to Dak's capability. I just hope we start off with this offense and get points on the board early and don't let our foot off the gas.
 

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Kellen just keeps getting better. If I'm mac, i'm more secure than ever regarding my oc after the Falcons win. And lest we forget, we were one bad ref's call fron tying or winning the rams game. We need more moore.
"And less Nessman.". (Sorry, just made me think of that line from WKRP.)
 

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So..

Do you think we have somebody who critiques Moore?

Is it just Mc Carthy or others?

The reason I ask is that Moore called such a poor game in the 1st game..

and things changed so radically in the Atlanta game with the play calls.

Where did this eminate from?

It can't just be they substituted Pepsi Light with original Coke as Moore's beverage on the sideline.

And if Moore is that psycho with his playcalling..how do we harness Good Moore and sit Bad Moore?

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I think many feel that Moore is out there doing his own thing, making the game plan all alone. Believe McCarthy is involved in what we are doing and what he is expecting from Moore and the players. Seldom in team sport is it a solo job being done for offense or defense. These coaches will work long hours and in meetings when the players have gone for the day and I don't think there is anything Moore is doing that McCarthy does not know or is in opposition of. End of the day McCarthy is the man in charge and while I feel he trust Moore to do a good job he is not in this alone McCarthy as HC is still final say in what they want to implement on offense.
 

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I think many feel that Moore is out there doing his own thing, making the game plan all alone. Believe McCarthy is involved in what we are doing and what he is expecting from Moore and the players. Seldom in team sport is it a solo job being done for offense or defense. These coaches will work long hours and in meetings when the players have gone for the day and I don't think there is anything Moore is doing that McCarthy does not know or is in opposition of. End of the day McCarthy is the man in charge and while I feel he trust Moore to do a good job he is not in this alone McCarthy as HC is still final say in what they want to implement on offense.
I realize this season is unlike any.

And things have been removed from the public eye becuz McCarthy wants security as he works.

Like for example doing the Blue/White scrimmage without jersey ID.

So he has been hard to figure for us fans. And logic would insist the HC is the bottom line. But of course we have just been freed from 10 years of Jerrah/Garrett where the GM did it all.

So pardon my inquiries.

It isn't as if I know nothing..

it's been more like I am a worm in a dark basement and everything is poop and I have to eat it to survive.

Now hopefully the poop is gone and it's been replaced by garbage which I like. Now if somebody would just leave the basement lights on..

I can see what I am eating and enjoy the meal.

Now we're was that prize from that Crackerjack box? I saw it just a moment ago.

Ah..here it is. Hiding under the pot plant.

Yumyum...
 
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