Twitter: Jaylon Smith: "We need to simplify the playbook and scheme"

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Haimerej said:
This is what I said prior to the season. All of Marinelli's detractors didn't want to hear it. "Complicated" schemes are, for the most part, feast or famine. When they work, you look like a genius. When they don't, you look like an idiot.

Real football isn't Madden. You can't just draw something up and expect seamless execution. Athletes, for the most part, aren't thinkers. The more you ask these guys to think, the slower their reactions. In a game where a split second hesitation is the difference between closing a hole or allowing a big run, the less these guys have to think the better.
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Slightly complexified simplicity should be Our goal.
 

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blueblood70 said:
meh not hearing it Ryan's defenses and his fathers and brothers were great, until he got here..

the coddling begins..i guess dumbing down defenses for the less fortunate players not smart enough to run them.i remember all the told you so when scandrick, ex players and opponents say they knew what was coming defensively. Refreshing we have coach hard to read defenses and now already after 2 games we want easy again..
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Not hearing what? Nolan has never had consistent great defenses. That's the point. You said you are not buying it because the Ryans had great defenses but then not here. But Nolan never had consistent great defenses, in fact his last two stops he had he had some pretty dreadful defenses, so I am not sure it's safe to assume it's the players only and Nolan is hindered by his defensive talent.

Again you'd have a better argument here if Nolan was considered this uber genius, wildly successful DC when we hired him. He was not.
 
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Mr Corporation wants it simpler lol he better hire someone to run his Corporation .
Tat said ometimes simple is better,thats how lombardi ran his team.
 
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Sydla said:
Not hearing what? Nolan has never had consistent great defenses. That's the point. You said you are not buying it because the Ryans had great defenses but then not here. But Nolan never had consistent great defenses, in fact his last two stops he had he had some pretty dreadful defenses, so I am not sure it's safe to assume it's the players only and Nolan is hindered by his defensive talent.

Again you'd have a better argument here if Nolan was considered this uber genius, wildly successful DC when we hired him. He was not.
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Interesting. Did he have great players on those other teams that he wasted?
 

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Corso said:
Interesting. Did he have great players on those other teams that he wasted?
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Who knows, but he's had 17 years as a DC and only a handful of really good defenses. Hard to imagine he went through his entire career with no players.

The reality is he really was never considered a great DC.
 
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Who knows, but he's had 17 years as a DC and only a handful of really good defenses. Hard to imagine he went through his entire career with no players.

The reality is he really was never considered a great DC.
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Right on. Just trying to get a firmer grasp on the situations he walked into.
Like this one. Everyone is whining about him and being overcomplicated while he's only installed a part of the D and the circumstances of this season have absolutely not been favorable to a team trying to install a new scheme.
 
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Corso said:
Interesting. Did he have great players on those other teams that he wasted?
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No

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@Denim Chicken
 
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Im giving Nolan the benefit of the doubt here.

Jaylon was good for one season with Marinelli and has been underperforming since.



The players here are soft and have been coddled. First the QB was adamant we keep the same system that led us nowhere on offense, and now the LB is saying the scheme is too complicated on defense

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Always a trade off between installing a new scheme and execution. Suck it up, buttercup.

I'm more interested in how and whether they *adjust* the scheme for Griffen and Lawrence just not being that good without their hands on the ground.

This was a predictable problem too. Wait it out and hope they improve, adjust the scheme so they play with their hands down, or let other players take their spots.
 
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Haimerej said:
This is what I said prior to the season. All of Marinelli's detractors didn't want to hear it. "Complicated" schemes are, for the most part, feast or famine. When they work, you look like a genius. When they don't, you look like an idiot.

Real football isn't Madden. You can't just draw something up and expect seamless execution. Athletes, for the most part, aren't thinkers. The more you ask these guys to think, the slower their reactions. In a game where a split second hesitation is the difference between closing a hole or allowing a big run, the less these guys have to think the better.
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That's cool. The opposing offense will take advantage by doing the thinking, then make the defense pay for being mindless drones that go according to their programming.
 

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WillieBeamen said:
No

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@Denim Chicken
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FWIW, some these weren't accurate, although it looks like Football Outsiders went back in 2020 and changed some of their methodology maybe after Denim pulled these. For example, he never had a Top 10 defense in Miami if you look at Team Defense DVOA now.
 
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