Let’s admit something about Schultz

gjkoeppen · Sep 25, 2020

MarcusRock said:
I actually already posted video and responded to your earlier post in the process. But just in case ....

Repeating this is not going to get me to change what I said.
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gjkoeppen · Sep 25, 2020

MarcusRock said:
I actually already posted video and responded to your earlier post in the process. But just in case ....

Repeating this is not going to get me to change what I said.
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TwistedL0g1k · Sep 25, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
All you're doing is willing yourself into seeing a punch to the head for whatever reason. All there is, is Schultz's face mask hitting the edge of the shoulder pads as the fist actually hits the ball.
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You need to study that second video closely. Schultz's head moves when the fist hits it BEFORE any possible contact with the ball.
Watch it again. If you cannot see it, you should seriously consider having your eyes checked out!

TwistedL0g1k · Sep 25, 2020

MarcusRock said:
Here's the video. To me it looks like a punch landed. However, Shultz actually dips his head into it. The punch glances off and actually hits Shultz' forearm which jars the ball loose. First video is the replay. The second video is the replay but I freeze frame it just after where I think the punch lands and then continue the video.

Great job with the video!!!

xwalker · Sep 25, 2020

TwistedL0g1k said:
You need to study that second video closely. Schultz's head moves when the fist hits it BEFORE any possible contact with the ball.
Watch it again. If you cannot see it, you should seriously consider having your eyes checked out!

I can see his fist underneath when the helmet first moves. It appears the forearm might hit the helmet. Maybe the fist hit the facemask but not the helmet.

Regardless it ends up helmet to helmet which is not allowed.

OmerV · Sep 25, 2020

xwalker said:
I can see his fist underneath when the helmet first moves. It appears the forearm might hit the helmet. Maybe the fist hit the facemask but not the helmet.

Regardless it ends up helmet to helmet which is not allowed.

Watch the direction the hand was moving and then watch how it shoots downward after contacting the helmet. It glanced off the helmet. Also look at when Dalton’s helmet first moves to the side. It coordinates with the hand hitting the helmet then shooting downward, just a fraction of a moment before Dalton’s helmet contacted the defender.

Aviano90 · Sep 25, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
I have a copy of the broadcast of the game and have watched this so many times now and I have not seen a punch to the head at ANY time. Again if this phantom punch to the head was really there at least ONE of the many articles written about this game and mentioning that fumble would have said hey there was actually a punch to the head but there isn't any of that. All there is, is a couple of fans that want so bad to claim a blown call by the refs missing that phantom punch to the head when there actually never was.
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I don’t care if a flag was thrown or not. I don’t care about bad calls. I don’t complain about refs ever. I just call a spade a spade and there is no way in my opinion that punch didn’t glance the face mask of Schultz. You believe what you want.

MarcusRock · Sep 25, 2020

OmerV said:
Watch the direction the hand was moving and then watch how it shoots downward after contacting the helmet. It glanced off the helmet. Also look at when Dalton’s helmet first moves to the side. It coordinates with the hand hitting the helmet then shooting downward, just a fraction of a moment before Dalton’s helmet contacted the defender.

Exactly what I see. Shultz' head got in the way of what was mostly a straight right and then the punch got deflected by what looks like the facemask but still got the job done even though he wound up hitting mostly forearm. The ball coming loose might have also been a product of the helmets clashing.

MarcusRock · Sep 25, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
Repeating this is not going to get me to change what I said.
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Just showing the actual video. Once people pick a side they rarely reverse course, even in the face of contrary evidence. This is why I post video ... to see if that unicorn exists out there.

Runwildboys · Sep 25, 2020

gjkoeppen said:
All you're doing is willing yourself into seeing a punch to the head for whatever reason. All there is, is Schultz's face mask hitting the edge of the shoulder pads as the fist actually hits the ball.
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If you can't see the punch itself, watch the hand redirect after it disappears behind the helmet. There's no way he swung his arm forward, then redirected it downward toward the ball that suddenly without bouncing off the helmet/face mask.

Runwildboys · Sep 25, 2020

OmerV said:
Watch the direction the hand was moving and then watch how it shoots downward after contacting the helmet. It glanced off the helmet. Also look at when Dalton’s helmet first moves to the side. It coordinates with the hand hitting the helmet then shooting downward, just a fraction of a moment before Dalton’s helmet contacted the defender.

All day long I've been waiting to get home and watch this on my laptop. As soon as I did, I saw the same thing and comment on it, only to see that 2 people have just made the same observation immediately before I did.

Qcard · Sep 25, 2020

superonyx said:
I and many of us didn’t see Schultz being able to contribute much.
I’m happy he surprised me today. Actually looked like an NFL TE.

Great game Schultz....
Now get some real shoulder pads.

Ok, I admit. I am in Love with Shultz. I never thought I'd get over Heath.

xwalker · Sep 25, 2020

OmerV said:
Watch the direction the hand was moving and then watch how it shoots downward after contacting the helmet. It glanced off the helmet. Also look at when Dalton’s helmet first moves to the side. It coordinates with the hand hitting the helmet then shooting downward, just a fraction of a moment before Dalton’s helmet contacted the defender.

I understand what you are saying but when I watch for the very first movement of the helmet I can see the hand at that same time.

CalPolyTechnique · Sep 25, 2020

MarcusRock said:
Here's the video. To me it looks like a punch landed. However, Shultz actually dips his head into it. The punch glances off and actually hits Shultz' forearm which jars the ball loose. First video is the replay. The second video is the replay but I freeze frame it just after where I think the punch lands and then continue the video.

It’s clear their helmets hit.

End of story.

MarcusRock · Sep 25, 2020

CalPolyTechnique said:
It’s clear their helmets hit.

End of story.

Sure they do. But after you see Shultz' helmet jarred away from the direction the LB is swinging his fist.

Runwildboys · Sep 25, 2020

Three of the least likely to see a phantom penalty all see the same punch to the helmet. That should really make someone consider the possibility.

Runwildboys · Sep 25, 2020

CalPolyTechnique said:
It’s clear their helmets hit.

End of story.

Yes, but the beginning of the story is when the fist hit the helmet.

GimmeTheBall! · Sep 25, 2020

superonyx said:
I and many of us didn’t see Schultz being able to contribute much.
I’m happy he surprised me today. Actually looked like an NFL TE.

Great game Schultz....
Now get some real shoulder pads.

Bloody, blimey!
He's giving 100% !!!!

OmerV · Sep 25, 2020

CalPolyTechnique said:
It’s clear their helmets hit.

End of story.

When did anyone say the helmets didn’t hit? The fact they hit doesn’t mean there wasn’t a fist to the helmet though.

kskboys · Sep 25, 2020

OmerV said:
When did anyone say the helmets didn’t hit? The fact they hit doesn’t mean there wasn’t a fist to the helmet though.

Schultz led w/ his helmet.

Let’s admit something about Schultz

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