Has Dak Prescott shown enough for Dallas to sign long term?

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So $7mil/yr is what it takes to rebuild a team at multiple positions? And who came up with he “has to take” $32-$33mil/yr? This just makes absolutely zero sense.
Dak doesn't have to take this lesser amount...but it would help the team. Are you saying $32 - $33 million a year is not enough for a starting stud QB who will easily make $10 million more a year on endorsements simply for being the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys?
 

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What's the excuses for last year?????

Dak was good for most of the year last year. Coaching cost us a playoff berth last season.. Think about it.. Dak was ballin at the end of the Minnesota game and Zeke had been stuffed all day but when it came winnin time the coaches took the ball out of Dak's hand and ran Zeke up the middle 3 straight times and then threw that stupid RB flare that Zeke never catches on 4th down with the game on the line. Then the same stupid coaches allowed Cooper to start the Jets game despite multiple leg and foot injuries then had no fallback plan once he went out. They lost three games when they scored at least 24 points and another scoring 22. In 90% of games that's enough points to win. Just like 38 and 31 should have been enough to win the last two weeks. If you're saying the offense has to be perfect while the defense can **** the bed week after week then we can't have any kind of meaningful discussion. People harping on the turnovers conveniently leave out that half of them came in the game they WON! Yes turnovers suck but turnovers alone are not the reason we've lost these last two games. As I've said before the slow starts to me are primarily on Kellen Moore. I think he is struggling to script good plays in that first 15 plays that they pre-plan. Getting out in front was almost never a problem when the Garrett/Lenahan braintrust was in charge of the offense. They had other issues but failing to score early was not one of them. I think until Moore (or McCarthy) fixes this we're always going to be playing from behind because the offense has zero rhythm early in games. Marry that to the fact that the defense can't stop a good high school offense and you got problems.. big problems.
 

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If Dak keeps almost 500 yards per game he is going to set crazy records but his Defense is gonna set crazy records and we will be 1-15..

He is playing great. If he didn’t have to throw 50+ times a game and attempt to score more than 36 points a game then he wouldn’t have the turnovers.

Bingo.. the world knows that if you are one-dimensional you are easier to defend and more likely to commit turnovers. Throw in the fact that the offensive line has been suspect at best you got recipe for disaster. It is to Dak's credit that he isn't bailing out on every throw with all that is going on around him when he drops back. And Zeke has probably already saved his life about 10 times so far this season. Get the defense to show and let the offense take fewer chances and I think the turnovers go way down .. Zeke is not a fumbler and Dak is not an Interceptaverde or a Sir Chadwick of Fumbleton. They are being asked to do too much. Play halfway decent defense, let the office settle in and watch this team win 6 or 7 in a row.
 

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Dak doesn't have to take this lesser amount...but it would help the team. Are you saying $32 - $33 million a year is not enough for a starting stud QB who will easily make $10 million more a year on endorsements simply for being the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys?

This idea that the Dallas Cowboys QBs get the fringe benefit of greater endorsement money may have been true many years ago but not as much today. It’s all about the contract as endorsements are no guarantee. These guys see retired players struggling with physical and mental issues post football and are not going to give any hometown discounts anymore.
 

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Dak was good for most of the year last year. Coaching cost us a playoff berth last season.. Think about it.. Dak was ballin at the end of the Minnesota game and Zeke had been stuffed all day but when it came winnin time the coaches took the ball out of Dak's hand and ran Zeke up the middle 3 straight times and then threw that stupid RB flare that Zeke never catches on 4th down with the game on the line. Then the same stupid coaches allowed Cooper to start the Jets game despite multiple leg and foot injuries then had no fallback plan once he went out. They lost three games when they scored at least 24 points and another scoring 22. In 90% of games that's enough points to win. Just like 38 and 31 should have been enough to win the last two weeks. If you're saying the offense has to be perfect while the defense can **** the bed week after week then we can't have any kind of meaningful discussion. People harping on the turnovers conveniently leave out that half of them came in the game they WON! Yes turnovers suck but turnovers alone are not the reason we've lost these last two games. As I've said before the slow starts to me are primarily on Kellen Moore. I think he is struggling to script good plays in that first 15 plays that they pre-plan. Getting out in front was almost never a problem when the Garrett/Lenahan braintrust was in charge of the offense. They had other issues but failing to score early was not one of them. I think until Moore (or McCarthy) fixes this we're always going to be playing from behind because the offense has zero rhythm early in games. Marry that to the fact that the defense can't stop a good high school offense and you got problems.. big problems.
I hear you, but the D wasn't that bad last year and that ended up 8-8 and the same problems with the O disappearing. I am going to see what the season end results are, at this point I agree Dak isn't the problem but he isn't the solution either. Dak at team friendly $$$ I can see but great to elite money his results do not justify. If Dak couldn't do it with a D that gave up a average of 20 points he will not do it unless there is a top 3 Defense and that costs money. Jerry will most likely pay Dak and the results will end up the same.
 

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You're trying too hard. Having a historically bad defense may have something to do with our record no?
No Dak should have had 600 yards passing and 6 TDs, it's his fault the team has to score 50 points to have a chance.

Even if the defense could get to 25-30 points a game given up this team would be 3-1. Without a bad OPI called in the Rams game they would be 4-0....... that is Daks fault as well for throwing such a beautiful pass to Gallup in the clutch. Some could argue if McCarthy kicks the 3 and ties the game Dallas would be 4-0 as well
 
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I hear you, but the D wasn't that bad last year and that ended up 8-8 and the same problems with the O disappearing. I am going to see what the season end results are, at this point I agree Dak isn't the problem but he isn't the solution either. Dak at team friendly $$$ I can see but great to elite money his results do not justify. If Dak couldn't do it with a D that gave up a average of 20 points he will not do it unless there is a top 3 Defense and that costs money. Jerry will most likely pay Dak and the results will end up the same.
Difference in the offense from last year to this is they are actually scoring points this season. Plus the whole thing about the team quitting on Garrett
 

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Could you imagine how badly we would be losing without Dak? Probably one of the worst 4 games stretches I can remember and we somehow had at least a slight chance to win all 4 at the end. The only way he could possibly be better would be to not fumble and to play 3 tech or DB on defense as well as QB
 

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So you would move down this year for a 2 and 3 this year? Plus a 1 next year? That swap would have to be only down a few spots for this trade to make sense. At #10, the 2021 picks would only be worth 2000 points, or 1000 less than the #1. The 1 next year is unknown making it less valuable IMO.

I would want more. Then there is the unknown about 2021 given there is little college football and we don;t know if there will be workouts or a combine next year.
My thinking is yes, in that scenario I would only be moving down a few spots. I don’t wanna go from a top 5 pick to the bottom half. My first 3-4 picks would be Defense or Oline.
 

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I hear you, but the D wasn't that bad last year and that ended up 8-8 and the same problems with the O disappearing. I am going to see what the season end results are, at this point I agree Dak isn't the problem but he isn't the solution either. Dak at team friendly $$$ I can see but great to elite money his results do not justify. If Dak couldn't do it with a D that gave up a average of 20 points he will not do it unless there is a top 3 Defense and that costs money. Jerry will most likely pay Dak and the results will end up the same.

I have been consistent in my evaluation of last year's team performance. If my bar is that the offense need to score 21 to have had a good game then I will hold the defense to the same standard and say that they have to hold a team under 21 to have had a good game. Last year the offense hit the mark 13 times. Which means that if the defense had hit the mark in those 13 games the Cowboys would have been 13-3 at worst. Unfortunately the defense only held teams under 21 8 times. Dak and the offense won three games in which the defense gave up at least 21.. Washington, Lions and Rams. So in those games I would say the offense carried the defense. The Cowboys lost three games in which the defense gave up less than 21.. They lost every game in which they failed to score at least 30. So the defense was never able to "carry" the offense to a win. In the three worst offensive games the Cowboys has last year, Saints, Pats and Philly, all on the road, the defense forced all of ONE turnover. The offense can't score 30 every week.. Sometimes the defense has to help them..

We may not see them help anybody this year. Which of course.. is Dak's fault.
 

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Difference in the offense from last year to this is they are actually scoring points this season. Plus the whole thing about the team quitting on Garrett
Is that the offense or the poor Defenses they have played so far?
 

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So $7mil/yr is what it takes to rebuild a team at multiple positions? And who came up with he “has to take” $32-$33mil/yr? This just makes absolutely zero sense.

Ive been screaming this....."Hey Dak I know you played great on a 4th round salary and we squeezed every penny out of it we could, and man have you earned another contract...but here hold my Johnny Walker as I write a ridiculous check to a RB and LB and WR and DE........ooh and I'm gonna need you to take a discount if you want the pleasure of staying here"........seriously I'll be suprised if he doesn't bolt out of here the second he can.
 

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When it comes to Dak, yes. If by now, you cant see who the best player on the team is and you cant see what an amazing QB he is, then you don't belong in a football conversation. Sorry, that's reality.


yeah he looks Great against a Prevent until its not !! like this past game

Face it Dak you suck !!
 

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If Dallas signs Dak, exactly where are they going to get the money to upgrade the defense? They have already overpaid several players. Should they overpay another one?
 

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If Dallas signs Dak, exactly where are they going to get the money to upgrade the defense? They have already overpaid several players. Should they overpay another one?


Jerry over 25 years has completely lacked the ability to plan ahead. He'll pay Dak just like he did Elliott and Lawrence and Jaylon Smith and Cooper on and on it goes. Then some will still wonder why they're going nowhere? Because the owner has no common sense. At some point as a general manager you have to make the decision to find production at a cheaper rate. There's no value at all in any of those large contracts just like there will be none if Dak sees 40 million.
 

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If Dallas signs Dak, exactly where are they going to get the money to upgrade the defense? They have already overpaid several players. Should they overpay another one?
Which players will be available and worth the money we would save by getting rid of Dak and getting a bargain basement QB? Hopefully you have a better list of defenders than the current bums stealing money by getting an on the field ticket to watch a football game.

I mean, I hope Dak can escape this team but I am interested in where these defenders are going to come from.
 

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Jerry over 25 years has completely lacked the ability to plan ahead. He'll pay Dak just like he did Elliott and Lawrence and Jaylon Smith and Cooper on and on it goes. Then some will still wonder why they're going nowhere? Because the owner has no common sense. At some point as a general manager you have to make the decision to find production at a cheaper rate. There's no value at all in any of those large contracts just like there will be none if Dak sees 40 million.

Yep, I've been saying the same thing for 25 years.
 
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