Twitter: Tyron Smith might be done for the season

if everyone's going on IR no reason why we don't play Dalton and entertain offers for any flashy player we currently have.

Knight - Williams - Biadazz - Redmond - Martin

or

Knight - Williams - Biadazz - Martin - Mills / Senat / Erving (eventually)

If the season got cancelled today due to covid, what pick would we get? Maybe lose one more game then hell breaks loose due to covid and season cancelled. I can work with that. Ooorrrr season gets pushed back and we come back NBA style. We would get some players back and players could learn the system? I dunno im just spit ballin here. Whats better?

fivetwos said:

Started a thread about ten months ago speculating if his replacement may be Collins or not, or whatever....and got purely BLASTED for it.

Telling me how many pro bowls he has played in and he isnt close to done.

Some of you need to turn in your genie licenses....or shut your traps in a certain manner.

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I know the deal. I mentioned in a post they had to start thinking about replacing Tyron before last year's draft and took some heat too. I know how old he is. He is 29, but he is a beat up 29. A LT who misses games every year with spinal injuries is a bad situation to be in. Of course I am speculating on his injury, but given the time off, then the come back, then it got worse again without a specific event to injure it, it sounds like a lingering issue. Problems with the spine are never good for athlete of any kind, particularly neck issues. We talked about this with LVE. LVE is younger and had a specific impact related compression injury. Tyron has something else. We don't know what caused it. That's what worries me more about him. If you are managing a roster, you'd like to believe your players can be there 16 games. You certainly don;t want to be planning about losing your LT 5 or 6 games a year because of a chronic injury.

Sydla said:

LOL.

This season just keeps getting better.

And this isn't out of left field either. It's surprising to me that this front office hasn't been more active in shaking the trees for OT help. There are some stop gap names out there. Or get creative and bring in an OG to allow Martin to play RT and move Knight back to LT.

These are the moments when it's painfully obvious what the flaws of this front office is. Jerry and Stephen are often way too slow to react to things that should have been in the works weeks ago.

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Tank for Trevor!!!!

jblaze2004 said:

He should shut it down. The neck and back aren't things to play with. We are 1 - 3 and haven't looked good in any game so far. Lucky the NFC EAST is so bad that we are still in the division fight but he should just rest up and "hopefully" be ready for next season.

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I'd add that not only do I agree, but I have been seeing him hurt the last few years. Sometimes even really good players just can't stay healthy and you have to be ready to move on from anyone at any time.

MonsterD said:

I was worried about him the year after he declined the surgery for his back and he looked like his stamina and core strength left him. He has been willing himself to continue but this might be the end.

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I've been concerned about this position for some time. and have been voicing those concerns for a while. He is young, but lots of miles on his body already. Hopefully one of the young guys turns out to be an acceptable player in his stead. That contract is going to be an cap kicker if we have to cut him next year.

TheViper7 said:

If the season got cancelled today due to covid, what pick would we get? Maybe lose one more game then hell breaks loose due to covid and season cancelled. I can work with that. Ooorrrr season gets pushed back and we come back NBA style. We would get some players back and players could learn the system? I dunno im just spit ballin here. Whats better?

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We are at the 5th spot if the last game was played last Sunday.

Sydla said:

LOL.

This season just keeps getting better.

And this isn't out of left field either. It's surprising to me that this front office hasn't been more active in shaking the trees for OT help. There are some stop gap names out there. Or get creative and bring in an OG to allow Martin to play RT and move Knight back to LT.

These are the moments when it's painfully obvious what the flaws of this front office is. Jerry and Stephen are often way too slow to react to things that should have been in the works weeks ago.

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It's way too easy to crack on Jerry & Stephen this year, but I'm going to give them a pass regarding the OT depth this year. Smith and Collins as your starters, with Erving as your swing tackle, with Brandon Knight and Steele as your developmental OTs. No one could of foreseen the injuries piling up on the Oline.

MonsterD said:

I was worried about him the year after he declined the surgery for his back and he looked like his stamina and core strength left him. He has been willing himself to continue but this might be the end.

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I agree.

I believe it is time to start the tankathon for a top 5 pick. This team has no chance at a SB this year.

Sydla said:

LOL.

This season just keeps getting better.

And this isn't out of left field either. It's surprising to me that this front office hasn't been more active in shaking the trees for OT help. There are some stop gap names out there. Or get creative and bring in an OG to allow Martin to play RT and move Knight back to LT.

These are the moments when it's painfully obvious what the flaws of this front office is. Jerry and Stephen are often way too slow to react to things that should have been in the works weeks ago.

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years, not weeks ago

SSoup said:

It's not like we shouldn't have seen this coming.

He gave us about 5 years of playing every game and usually playing 100% of the snaps. Great. But then he gave us 4 straight seasons of missing between 20-30% of our season each year. And he's coming up on 30 years old, so obviously it was only going to get worse as he ages and the injuries accumulate more and more. It was just a matter of "well, is he gonna start missing 50% of each season 75%? What?"

Him only turning 30 this season doesn't *sound* old, but when you look at him missing time every season like clockwork for 4 straight years heading into this year? And when you consider he was only 20 years old when he debuted for us, it means he's been around a long time and there's less tread on his tires than on most guys his age. Most guys turning 30 weren't starting in the NFL before they could legally drink alcohol. He's got more wear and tear than most.

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To add to this, I just have to say: it's weird how wildly uninterested we've been in drafting tackles in recent years given how blatantly obvious it was that Tyron wasn't gonna be able to be counted on for long.

I don't know why our team falls into the trap of ignoring players and positions as soon as we find a guy we like. We just rush to put things on cruise control and stop staying on top of the player and his position.

Us being caught unprepared for Tyron's injuries (despite multiple *years* of evidence warning us we needed to have a legit replacement ready) smacks of us being caught unprepared for the end of the Witten era despite all the evidence he was trending down in a big bad way.

Something I think about a lot in the salary cap era of sports where teams always need to restock their cupboards is the 2002 draft when the Eagles spent their first 3 picks (one first and two seconds) on defensive backs even though their secondary was a huge strength (honestly probably their strongest unit, and perhaps the best secondary in the entire league) with Troy Vincent and Bobby Taylor and Al Harris and Brian Dawkins. But they knew they couldn't afford to keep them all, and Vincent and Taylor might be getting too old for it to be wise to re-sign them even if they were inclined to. They knew they had to arm themselves for the near future when they could no longer rely on the names who had been there for years. They weren't reaching for immediate needs. Good DBs, it just so happened, fell to them and they made the picks knowing they'd have need for them before long. It's partly what enabled them to transition fairly smoothly as they turned over their defense early in the Reid era.

Compare that to our own CB-heavy draft a couple years prior to that. From the minute we signed Deion Sanders in the mid-'90s, we basically stopped paying attention to or caring about or prioritizing the cornerback position at all. We figured Deion plus whoever else would be fine. And it was. Until it wasn't anymore, and then it was time to move on from Deion. It snuck up on us (even though it shouldn't have and we were absolutely lost in the tall grass scrambling to replace him -- a fun preview of the next year when we'd do the same thing, scrambling to replace Aikman after putting the QB position on cruise control for a decade despite Troy's constant injuries that gave us lenty of warning he wasn't gonnalast forever). But suddenly we found ourselves needing to fix the conerback situation we'd let go to hell without noticing until now. It was an immediate need, not a future need. And we had to do it without even having a 1st rounder since we'd traded it away. We needed to immediately pick a literal Deion Sanders replacement (ha!) and guys to cover elite passing attacks like the Rams' (ha!) or the Colts' (ha!) or the Packers' (ha!) or the Vikings' (ha!). We suddenly needed to draft guys to cover Randy Moss (ha!)--bless our heart--armed with nothing but 2nd and 4th round picks to throw at the problem.It was an impossible hole we dug for ourselves.

The Eagles 2002 draft wasn't even a grandslam homerun or anything that emphatic. It's not like the new kids all went on to be All Pro's or anything. Just the kind of quiet competence that allowed them to continue to function and allowed them to be able to afford to re-sign important guys other than the 3 aging, expensive corners. But their quiet competence sure beat the clown-show our organization was.

I don't understand how we continue to put things on cruise control and allow ourselves to still be constantly blindsided by it whenever any of our good aging or injury-riddled players needs to have a good replacement.

Oh my goodness! Can this season get any worse for us?

Time to call it a career.

Fork a stick in em. They’re done!

Hennessy_King said:

connor williams at tackle, mcgovern at guard, knight at other tackle

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I think Knight, Williams, Biadasz, Looney/McGovern, Martin might be more likely.

DeStorm said:

I agree.

I believe it is time to start the tankathon for a top 5 pick. This team has no chance at a SB this year.

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Yep bout time for another 2016 (Dak n Zeke) type draft in '21...this FO needs some no brainier picks to get their average back up.

Word around town this draft is supposed to have a good supply of OTs. Tyron Smith has been a great OT for years, wish dude good health.

Once again, who cares? This team is a joke and nothing really matters at all. With a few exceptions, this team is made up heartless, self-absorbed, losers who couldn't care less about what it takes to win and achieve greatness. Almost all of them buy in to the rotten culture that they are special because they are Cowboys and because they once made a good play, they deserve their payday. It sickens me and I am soo very close to be done with the entire franchise for good. This doesn't really apply to Smith. He is one of the only players that got paid and still played well afterwards.

Furboy said:

Oh my goodness! Can this season get any worse for us?

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yes.Dak can get hurt and its a possibility behind this oline.

reddyuta said:

yes.Dak can get hurt and its a possibility behind this oline.

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Good point! That would be worse.