Can Andy Dalton be Jon Kitna like?

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Honestly, I think Dalton will provide a better flow of offense for our team.

Andy Dalton may not have the same ability to run, great leadership qualities that rally an entire locker room or have the same deep throw accuracy as Dak Prescott. But, is that what this offense needs?

I believe that Andy's strengths in other places such as ability to read the defense, see the field, and his consistency in throwing the ball in the places where the ball should be thrown and throwing to the best read will be fun to watch. Seeing our 3 #1 receivers running for more YAC while also throwing to the best situational reads instead of checking down to get a safe completion but 2 or 3 yards short on 3rd down is something that I am hoping Andy can do for us differently.

No one is arguing that Dak is inaccurate. It's his inaccuracy with his misses on easy passes that should be completed, causing our drives to stall when the game is close or to extend our time of possession.
 
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quickccc said:
its been really tough for me to think and enjoy NFL football. - especially Cowboys football without Dak
as he had become one of the NFL's most exciting players to watch.

But i had a thought that if Andy Dalton can be anything close to what we used to experience
with backup Jon Kitna when Romo first broke his collarbone in 2010, and Kitna came off the
bench to engineer an offense that was averaging 31 points when he was getting the starts- before he eventually got hurt himself for that year.

Dalton's game reminds me more of a Jon Kitna like player.

A scrappy, grinding serviceable with limited physical tools such as an average arm that won't beat the better secondaries, as far as consistently driving it into deep seams or power it on go-fly routes and quick sideline outs, but he's a solid game manager, bus driver
- takes what defense gives him,..
- solid enough feel for pass game, ..
- occasionally lets receivers run under his floaters for possibly big plays
- Vast starting game experience - just imagine if Cooper Rush were still the backup ..YIkes !!

- if you can mixDalton up with a very solid run game, he can be very serviceable with the pass game.
- Would have been much better served if we had an even decent enough Defense so he wouldnt have
to be in a catch up mode.

As as some have pointed out, if we watched Nick Foles help manage his team into a SB, it' would not be so out of the question IF we had other help sources as well.
- if it were not for this accused porous defense-
- and we could recapture a dangerous effective enough Zeke- Pollard run attack, and much more solid special teams
- and i just dunno if we have enough in the OL to being able to overcome that as well.
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Also, Kitna was clearly at the end of his career. W/o Covid, Dalton starts somewhere this year. He's almost 33. Should have two more seasons in him easy.
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Like you said, Kitna was at the end of his career. Dalton still has a better arm than Kitna had when he played for us. Like you said, Dalton could probably still start somewhere. Bottom line, IMO Dalton is better here than Kitna was, no doubt.
 
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quickccc said:
its been really tough for me to think and enjoy NFL football. - especially Cowboys football without Dak
as he had become one of the NFL's most exciting players to watch.

But i had a thought that if Andy Dalton can be anything close to what we used to experience
with backup Jon Kitna when Romo first broke his collarbone in 2010, and Kitna came off the
bench to engineer an offense that was averaging 31 points when he was getting the starts- before he eventually got hurt himself for that year.

Dalton's game reminds me more of a Jon Kitna like player.

A scrappy, grinding serviceable with limited physical tools such as an average arm that won't beat the better secondaries, as far as consistently driving it into deep seams or power it on go-fly routes and quick sideline outs, but he's a solid game manager, bus driver
- takes what defense gives him,..
- solid enough feel for pass game, ..
- occasionally lets receivers run under his floaters for possibly big plays
- Vast starting game experience - just imagine if Cooper Rush were still the backup ..YIkes !!

- if you can mixDalton up with a very solid run game, he can be very serviceable with the pass game.
- Would have been much better served if we had an even decent enough Defense so he wouldnt have
to be in a catch up mode.

As as some have pointed out, if we watched Nick Foles help manage his team into a SB, it' would not be so out of the question IF we had other help sources as well.
- if it were not for this accused porous defense-
- and we could recapture a dangerous effective enough Zeke- Pollard run attack, and much more solid special teams
- and i just dunno if we have enough in the OL to being able to overcome that as well.
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What worries me the most about Andy Dalton is his lack of mobility playing behind this mash unit line. I really believe Moore has to create an offense that fits his skill set. More of a conservative, run first with a lot of playaction.
 
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I think a big key for Dalton is the talent he has around him from RB to 3 top notch WR as well as a TE who has shown thus far that he is more than up to the task, OL just needs to give him some protection.
 
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What worries me the most about Andy Dalton is his lack of mobility playing behind this mash unit line. I really believe Moore has to create an offense that fits his skill set. More of a conservative, run first with a lot of playaction.
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It looks like he did well with the rollout to avoid the pass rush and then nailed the pass while on the run. I think he steps up in the pocket well.
 
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Cowboyny said:
What worries me the most about Andy Dalton is his lack of mobility playing behind this mash unit line. I really believe Moore has to create an offense that fits his skill set. More of a conservative, run first with a lot of playaction.
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Lack of mobility ? dalton actually scrambles around and upfield fairly well.
if you could go look at some of his Cincy highlights, they'd show off his scrambling abilities..

He even gained a fair amount of yards rushing on us in 2016 when we played Cincy.

it's those mistake prone games ala turnovers and a lack of am power that limits what he can do in
pass game that concern me the most.
and some QBs are just clutch,..and some are not.
Dalton just wasn't a cltuch starter in Cincy. But as a backup QB, there isn't a better vet QB that is better as a backup.
 
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I think when Dak is good to go he will be the starter and Dalton will go back to being the backup regardless of how he plays the remainder of the season.
 
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Dalton is still a starting caliber QB......theres no reason we cant win 6 more games under him
 
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quickccc said:
Lack of mobility ? dalton actually scrambles around and upfield fairly well.
if you could go look at some of his Cincy highlights, they'd show off his scrambling abilities..

He even gained a fair amount of yards rushing on us in 2016 when we played Cincy.

it's those mistake prone games ala turnovers and a lack of am power that limits what he can do in
pass game that concern me the most.
and some QBs are just clutch,..and some are not.
Dalton just wasn't a cltuch starter in Cincy. But as a backup QB, there isn't a better vet QB that is better as a backup.
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Mobility/Pocket Awareness. I don't believe he will extend plays like Dak was able to do.

Kitna is actually a good comparison, they have a similar skill set.

I just don't see Dalton running shotgun and passing as much as Dak was doing this season.
 
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Pantone282C said:
It looks like he did well with the rollout to avoid the pass rush and then nailed the pass while on the run. I think he steps up in the pocket well.
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I got to see him play more, I see Dalton as a more traditional, pocket QB. I worry if he will be able to extend plays like Dak was able to do.
 
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Kitna's best years in the league where he threw more TDs than interceptions was only 3, 1999 he was 23/16 TD/INT, 2003 he was 26/16, and 2012 he was 16/12. For his career 169/165 TD/INT. Dalton's worst year for TD/INTs were 2014 and 2019 he still had 2 more TDs than INTs those years.
 
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