Dalton's numbers aren't encouraging

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I think he was the best option for a backup QB and applauded them for landing him; however, that was before I knew he was actually going to have to play.

The last 3 years he was in CIN, his TD to INT was 62 to 37. His playoff record is worse, 1 to 6.

The posts about him being an improvement over Prescott are puzzling to say the least, Prescott is the reason they're 2-3 and not 0-5 and our QB talk centering around the draft.

There can be a lot of different reasons for Dalton's record the last 3 seasons or his availability as a backup or having that as his only option but the only way he is going to save this season, and I think the best of that is winning the East, is with a lot of help.

Now, you can say he didn't get that in CIN and I will agree but will he get that in DAL? There seems to be this feeling that everybody will up their game because the backup QB is in and they'll rally and "Win one for the Dakster". All of the sudden, the D will not look like rejects at a Keystone Cops casting call.

This certainly isn't an ideal situation for Dalton and had he known the 2 OT's and C and his backup would be gone, he might have reconsidered this. He does have one thing in his favor, he can use his feet and neither Cassel or Weeden could do that effectively. However, in his last season in CIN, he did fumble 8 times.

The numbers don't tell the entire story but I wonder about where his head is at. He had a terrible last season in CIN. He got benched and was then brought back in and they ended up with the top draft pick and used it to replace him. I wonder if he was looking for a soft spot after a year like that? Take a little bit of the pressure off because it had to be unbearable.

So, if you're looking for drama in this 2020 NFL season, look no further than your Dallas Cowboys. Got a HC looking for redemption and now he has a QB looking for the same thing. Rarely does this happen, two men in the same boat, each needing the other to save them. And it's their first season together and they couldn't be in a worse place. Ain't no hiding in Dallas.

This isn't a rap against Andy Dalton, just some of the facts about his numbers. Players have beaten the numbers before and there is one thing for sure, McC and Dalton do not have to imagine what the other is thinking, they no exactly how each other is feeling. They should have as strong a bond as possible in this short period of time knowing each other.

I am not a numbers guy as much as one that is interested in the human condition. I've been pretty much wrong about that the last few times and centered on that with McC trying to redeem himself but now that has been magnified with his QB needing the same thing. The pain of their teams not wanting them has to still sting and that human condition side of me wonders can that be the magic?

Think about it. The HC is under fire and his old team is off to a great start. The QB's replacement in CIN is already being heralded as a future HOF. They are already distant memories after only being gone a couple of years.

I do believe in that having something to prove but that's in my heart. My mind looks at this team and tells my heart what a fool it is.
 

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Dalton won’t look as good as Dak...but renewed balance in our offense may lead to better results.
If they can achieve that. With this OL and DC's knowing that is exactly what they want to do, I don't know if this run game is good enough.

But I would surely prefer they run block and that pass protect and give us a premature look at "The Nooch".
 

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I think he was the best option for a backup QB and applauded them for landing him; however, that was before I knew he was actually going to have to play.

The last 3 years he was in CIN, his TD to INT was 62 to 37. His playoff record is worse, 1 to 6.

The posts about him being an improvement over Prescott are puzzling to say the least, Prescott is the reason they're 2-3 and not 0-5 and our QB talk centering around the draft.

There can be a lot of different reasons for Dalton's record the last 3 seasons or his availability as a backup or having that as his only option but the only way he is going to save this season, and I think the best of that is winning the East, is with a lot of help.

Now, you can say he didn't get that in CIN and I will agree but will he get that in DAL? There seems to be this feeling that everybody will up their game because the backup QB is in and they'll rally and "Win one for the Dakster". All of the sudden, the D will not look like rejects at a Keystone Cops casting call.

This certainly isn't an ideal situation for Dalton and had he known the 2 OT's and C and his backup would be gone, he might have reconsidered this. He does have one thing in his favor, he can use his feet and neither Cassel or Weeden could do that effectively. However, in his last season in CIN, he did fumble 8 times.

The numbers don't tell the entire story but I wonder about where his head is at. He had a terrible last season in CIN. He got benched and was then brought back in and they ended up with the top draft pick and used it to replace him. I wonder if he was looking for a soft spot after a year like that? Take a little bit of the pressure off because it had to be unbearable.

So, if you're looking for drama in this 2020 NFL season, look no further than your Dallas Cowboys. Got a HC looking for redemption and now he has a QB looking for the same thing. Rarely does this happen, two men in the same boat, each needing the other to save them. And it's their first season together and they couldn't be in a worse place. Ain't no hiding in Dallas.

This isn't a rap against Andy Dalton, just some of the facts about his numbers. Players have beaten the numbers before and there is one thing for sure, McC and Dalton do not have to imagine what the other is thinking, they no exactly how each other is feeling. They should have as strong a bond as possible in this short period of time knowing each other.

I am not a numbers guy as much as one that is interested in the human condition. I've been pretty much wrong about that the last few times and centered on that with McC trying to redeem himself but now that has been magnified with his QB needing the same thing. The pain of their teams not wanting them has to still sting and that human condition side of me wonders can that be the magic?

Think about it. The HC is under fire and his old team is off to a great start. The QB's replacement in CIN is already being heralded as a future HOF. They are already distant memories after only being gone a couple of years.

I do believe in that having something to prove but that's in my heart. My mind looks at this team and tells my heart what a fool it is.

I would thrown in there over the last 3 years Dalton did not have much in terms of talent around him. Last year he had nothing to speak of in terms of WR, in 2018 He had Green who was injured much of the time and outside of Green not much. I think Dalton does have a lot to prove but at least in walks into a situation where he has legit weapons at his disposal.
 

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As I posted on another thread, my concern with Dalton is that when he played well, he always had a very good scoring defense. This means he wasn't under pressure to score bunch of points to win games.

With our current defense, this will not be the case.
 

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I think he was the best option for a backup QB and applauded them for landing him; however, that was before I knew he was actually going to have to play.

The last 3 years he was in CIN, his TD to INT was 62 to 37. His playoff record is worse, 1 to 6.

The posts about him being an improvement over Prescott are puzzling to say the least, Prescott is the reason they're 2-3 and not 0-5 and our QB talk centering around the draft.

There can be a lot of different reasons for Dalton's record the last 3 seasons or his availability as a backup or having that as his only option but the only way he is going to save this season, and I think the best of that is winning the East, is with a lot of help.

Now, you can say he didn't get that in CIN and I will agree but will he get that in DAL? There seems to be this feeling that everybody will up their game because the backup QB is in and they'll rally and "Win one for the Dakster". All of the sudden, the D will not look like rejects at a Keystone Cops casting call.

This certainly isn't an ideal situation for Dalton and had he known the 2 OT's and C and his backup would be gone, he might have reconsidered this. He does have one thing in his favor, he can use his feet and neither Cassel or Weeden could do that effectively. However, in his last season in CIN, he did fumble 8 times.

The numbers don't tell the entire story but I wonder about where his head is at. He had a terrible last season in CIN. He got benched and was then brought back in and they ended up with the top draft pick and used it to replace him. I wonder if he was looking for a soft spot after a year like that? Take a little bit of the pressure off because it had to be unbearable.

So, if you're looking for drama in this 2020 NFL season, look no further than your Dallas Cowboys. Got a HC looking for redemption and now he has a QB looking for the same thing. Rarely does this happen, two men in the same boat, each needing the other to save them. And it's their first season together and they couldn't be in a worse place. Ain't no hiding in Dallas.

This isn't a rap against Andy Dalton, just some of the facts about his numbers. Players have beaten the numbers before and there is one thing for sure, McC and Dalton do not have to imagine what the other is thinking, they no exactly how each other is feeling. They should have as strong a bond as possible in this short period of time knowing each other.

I am not a numbers guy as much as one that is interested in the human condition. I've been pretty much wrong about that the last few times and centered on that with McC trying to redeem himself but now that has been magnified with his QB needing the same thing. The pain of their teams not wanting them has to still sting and that human condition side of me wonders can that be the magic?

Think about it. The HC is under fire and his old team is off to a great start. The QB's replacement in CIN is already being heralded as a future HOF. They are already distant memories after only being gone a couple of years.

I do believe in that having something to prove but that's in my heart. My mind looks at this team and tells my heart what a fool it is.

1. Zurlein won the Atlanta game with a phenomenal onside kick and then game winner.
2. Dalton engineered the comeback against the Giants. Prescott took 2 quarters off before starting the process of digging the team out of a hole. But Dalton finished it.

3. Maybe Dalton will be our Jim Plunket. He was as good as his supporting cast in Cincy. He's got a better supporting cast now......at least on offense.
 

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He is not good under pressure. Defenses are going to sell out stopping the run and applying pressure around the LOS. Dalton has to able to make quick reads and get the ball out fast. I think he is playing with as good or better a supporting cast now than any time in his career. It's the defense that is going to kill the Cowboys. Playing from behind will not be a good situation for Dalton.
 

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Dalton is not in any way a difference maker. He's the quintessential bus driver. The running game and pass protection will have to step up big time. I have little hope for the defense being better. Special teams have been substandard, and it needs to be addressed. I can't believe that they didn't think that they could upgrade at punter going into the season.
 

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Respectfully, all this Dalton talk is a moot point. This season is over

Dalton wont be the future QB of this team and neither will Rayne Dakota. The defense isn't ready to do squat this season.

The rebuild is in full swing and we will keep the good and hopefully put out the bad
 

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Season is done if our Defense don’t get better. Wasn’t gonna be much better with Dak when he has to put up 38 points a game.
I do not think that scoring average isn't going to have to be maintained.

The problem with this defense is that it's poor against the ran and pass, the other team can pick it's strength, they don't have to alter anything.

This season was captioned for me with Nolan celebrating with his guys on the sideline at holding the Giants to 34, with TD's called back.

glimm, when I watch this defense play, the words of the great Dick Enberg play in my head, "oh my".
 

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1. Zurlein won the Atlanta game with a phenomenal onside kick and then game winner.
2. Dalton engineered the comeback against the Giants. Prescott took 2 quarters off before starting the process of digging the team out of a hole. But Dalton finished it.

3. Maybe Dalton will be our Jim Plunket. He was as good as his supporting cast in Cincy. He's got a better supporting cast now......at least on offense.
The Cowboys were beating the Giants at half time, and didn't lose the lead until after Dalton fumbled the snap. He engineered a comeback because he surrendered the lead.

What are we talking about here?
 

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He's older and lessor now. It happens to all of us.

But he did have a very good and very clutch start to his Cowboys career vs the Giants. So good for him
 

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I think he was the best option for a backup QB and applauded them for landing him; however, that was before I knew he was actually going to have to play.

The last 3 years he was in CIN, his TD to INT was 62 to 37. His playoff record is worse, 1 to 6.

The posts about him being an improvement over Prescott are puzzling to say the least, Prescott is the reason they're 2-3 and not 0-5 and our QB talk centering around the draft.

There can be a lot of different reasons for Dalton's record the last 3 seasons or his availability as a backup or having that as his only option but the only way he is going to save this season, and I think the best of that is winning the East, is with a lot of help.

Now, you can say he didn't get that in CIN and I will agree but will he get that in DAL? There seems to be this feeling that everybody will up their game because the backup QB is in and they'll rally and "Win one for the Dakster". All of the sudden, the D will not look like rejects at a Keystone Cops casting call.

This certainly isn't an ideal situation for Dalton and had he known the 2 OT's and C and his backup would be gone, he might have reconsidered this. He does have one thing in his favor, he can use his feet and neither Cassel or Weeden could do that effectively. However, in his last season in CIN, he did fumble 8 times.

The numbers don't tell the entire story but I wonder about where his head is at. He had a terrible last season in CIN. He got benched and was then brought back in and they ended up with the top draft pick and used it to replace him. I wonder if he was looking for a soft spot after a year like that? Take a little bit of the pressure off because it had to be unbearable.

So, if you're looking for drama in this 2020 NFL season, look no further than your Dallas Cowboys. Got a HC looking for redemption and now he has a QB looking for the same thing. Rarely does this happen, two men in the same boat, each needing the other to save them. And it's their first season together and they couldn't be in a worse place. Ain't no hiding in Dallas.

This isn't a rap against Andy Dalton, just some of the facts about his numbers. Players have beaten the numbers before and there is one thing for sure, McC and Dalton do not have to imagine what the other is thinking, they no exactly how each other is feeling. They should have as strong a bond as possible in this short period of time knowing each other.

I am not a numbers guy as much as one that is interested in the human condition. I've been pretty much wrong about that the last few times and centered on that with McC trying to redeem himself but now that has been magnified with his QB needing the same thing. The pain of their teams not wanting them has to still sting and that human condition side of me wonders can that be the magic?

Think about it. The HC is under fire and his old team is off to a great start. The QB's replacement in CIN is already being heralded as a future HOF. They are already distant memories after only being gone a couple of years.

I do believe in that having something to prove but that's in my heart. My mind looks at this team and tells my heart what a fool it is.
Burrow looks promising, but that team has one win, and his numbers are clearly driven by volume.

Andy dalton last year had maybe the worst oline in the league, and no receiving threats outside of boyd.

Idk if Andy can really be a savior for this team, that really comes down to can this defense improve with time. What I do know is Andy dalton is a guy you can win games with. I also know this is the best offense he has had since the bengals had green, sand, and Marvin Jones all in their prime about 7/8 years ago.

A lot has to come together, and quick, but ill give this team a punchers chance to actually win a playoff game.
 

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He's older and lessor now. It happens to all of us.

But he did have a very good and very clutch start to his Cowboys career vs the Giants. So good for him
You may be right, but he's 33. That isn't the kiss of death for qbs anymore. Ill be interested to see what he can do without a dumpster fire of an offense around him.
 
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