The Cowboys offense will be different with the Red Rooster

GMO415 said:

Expect the opposite. Teams will stack the box and force the Red Rifle to beat them, and he will shred them with these WRs.

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I agree
And pollard isn’t getting that many touches though I’m hoping they get him a few more touches in the pass game

CoachD said:

Nice rebuttal and an interesting point of view but the defense needs a lot of protection and Zeke is the answer.

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Also the fact that the OL is less than stellar. WR's are gonna have to get open quickly if possible.

LACowboysFan1 said:

And what happened when Romo went down in 2015?

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Romo was a bit different era.

Romo and TO were the only real stars on very average rosters.

We have vastly improved the talent through out the roster since those days.

I mean look at losing our 2 stating All Pro offensive tackle and Beard our center.

The rookie there are learning each snap.

That's what I mean.

Hook'em#11 said:

Also the fact that the OL is less than stellar. WR's are gonna have to get open quickly if possible.

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Sure but they had to when Dak was here as well. Dalton is not a statue back there and he is capable of getting outside of the pocket and making throws. This is not Vinny Testiverdy, Dalton can actually move pretty well.

Teague31 said:

Nope. Our defense will continue to give up 30-40 a game forcing us to be pass happy

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I think that’s why you have to stick to the run game
With Dak I like going fast
Without him and with this defense I think you slow it down
We will still pass more but we have to not get away from running the ball
Our best hope to fix this defense is keeping them on the bench more

Doomsday101 said:

Sure but they had to when Dak was here as well. Dalton is not a statue back there and he is capable of getting outside of the pocket and making throws. This is not Vinny Testiverdy, Dalton can actually move pretty well.

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Sorry, Dalton can't move as well as Dak. His throwing on the run is hit and miss. It concerns me.

Hook'em#11 said:

Sorry, Dalton can't move as well as Dak. His throwing on the run is hit and miss. It concerns me.

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he does not have too. Dalton is not some pure pocket passer, he operated in the RPO and he has been able to pull the ball down and pick up yards when he has to. I agree he is not as mobile as Dak but he does not need to be.

conner01 said:

I think that’s why you have to stick to the run game
With Dak I like going fast
Without him and with this defense I think you slow it down
We will still pass more but we have to not get away from running the ball
Our best hope to fix this defense is keeping them on the bench more

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I agree up to a point, sometime you do the hurry up to change the pace for offense when they are sputtering. You keep the defense from making changes and sometimes it is just that change of pace that can get the offense going. I do agree it is not something I want to do all the time but then again I really do not want to get back to having delay of game calls on us and snapping with 1 sec left on the play clock. This team has done a better job of getting to the line and making the adjustments with time on play clock even when they are not going no huddle

I don't expect a lot of difference, for several reasons:

1. Dalton isn't that far from Dak, skill-wise, better at some things, worse at others, but it's not like Dak ran a 4.4 and Dalton a 4.8, or that Dak had an exceptionally strong arm and Dalton can't throw the ball past 25 yards, e.g.
2. Dalton's not the entire offense, can't start rearranging all the o-line gaps, keep Zeke in to block every play, or create tons of new plays mid-season.
3. Dalton's has more experience than Dak, even after 4 years I suspect most quarterbacks are still learning some things. He's no Brady, who's "seen it all" in his career, but 144 games is a lot of time on the field. He can handle the plays, and most teams use a lot of similar routes and formations, no NFL team is totally unique in that regard.
4. Zeke's had 22 carries twice this year, 19 once, so it's not like he's only been getting 10 carries a game and will suddenly get 25 per game that from now on. He'd have to get 30 carries to get way more than he's already gotten this year, and with this poor defense I seriously doubt that the Cowboys can get to "ground and pound" mode, or a big lead.
5. Dalton's been here since camp, he's had time to learn a good bit of the offense/
6. Cooper, Gallup and Lamb can make plays on their own in part, a bad throw or such and they can "make up" for it. Lord knows they've had to do it with Dak more than a few times.

No doubt if you watch it closely you will be able to see some differences, but I'll be very surprised if we see dramatic changes.

CoachD said:

Nice rebuttal and an interesting point of view but the defense needs a lot of protection and Zeke is the answer.

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Its a nice idea, but if your in 3rd and long frequently, we wont be leaning on the running game as much to support the heavy run game narrative.

Redball Express said:

Romo was a bit different era.

Romo and TO were the only real stars on very average rosters.

We have vastly improved the talent through out the roster since those days.

I mean look at losing our 2 stating All Pro offensive tackle and Beard our center.

The rookie there are learning each snap.

That's what I mean.

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Regardless of the way the team is otherwise, losing one player can make a huge difference, that's what I mean...

it should be interesting. I think andy should do well. he's played with less and can read the defense and has good accuracy.

I think we'll be going to more WCO concepts using short quick passes to open up the run and deeper passes.

As others have mentioned, defenses are going to stack the box.
If we go back to our old run on 1st and get stuffed for 1 yard, pass on 2nd for 4 yards, then get sacked on 3rd and punt routine, we are not going to win many games.

Zman5 said:

I think we'll be going to more WCO concepts using short quick passes to open up the run and deeper passes.

As others have mentioned, defenses are going to stack the box.
If we go back to our old run on 1st and get stuffed for 1 yard, pass on 2nd for 4 yards, then get sacked on 3rd and punt routine, we are not going to win many games.

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I don't think we'll see as much stacking the box as you might think. We have Lamb now, putting 8 in the box, for instance, leaves only 3 in coverage, if Dallas puts 3 wrs and a tight end out in routes, that will mean somebody will be uncovered, or there will be big zone spaces available, I think Dalton is capable of getting passes out quickly and teams will get burned if they try that. And if they drop more into coverage, Zeke can find spaces to run through.

Just a question of Dalton being able to hit quick throws and the receivers being able to get open quickly...

Doomsday101 said:

Sure but they had to when Dak was here as well. Dalton is not a statue back there and he is capable of getting outside of the pocket and making throws. This is not Vinny Testiverdy, Dalton can actually move pretty well.

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You are correct. Dalton has 22 rushing touchdowns on his resume. He can run if he needs to.

LACowboysFan1 said:

I don't think we'll see as much stacking the box as you might think. We have Lamb now, putting 8 in the box, for instance, leaves only 3 in coverage, if Dallas puts 3 wrs and a tight end out in routes, that will mean somebody will be uncovered, or there will be big zone spaces available, I think Dalton is capable of getting passes out quickly and teams will get burned if they try that. And if they drop more into coverage, Zeke can find spaces to run through.

Just a question of Dalton being able to hit quick throws and the receivers being able to get open quickly...

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They'll do it until we beat it. They'll back off once we constantly beat it. They'd be stupid not to try.

GMO415 said:

Expect the opposite. Teams will stack the box and force the Red Rifle to beat them, and he will shred them with these WRs.

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Exactly what Collin said too. That's what he's good at! The dirty birds game plan will be foiled.

The man is a Dallas Cowboy. I will only accept “The Red Rifle” as a nickname. None of this Rooster foolishness.

The red train doesn't panic

CoachD said:

Now that Dak is out for the season expect Zeke and Pollard to get a lot more touches like in the 25-30 range and believe me that will help that limp noodle defense.

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I think he goes by Red Rifle.

Not Red Rooster.

I go by Redball Express here.

Don't get us confused.

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