Trade Amari This Offseason?

Stash · Oct 16, 2020

Doomsday101 said:
1st 2 years are team friendly but the cards are still on the hook for the $60,050,000 guaranteed, his deal is backend loaded. The out year on his deal would cost the Cards 15.5 cap hit. Point is these contracts continue to rise, people saying Cooper contract is too much when reality is it is in line with the market value of top WR and as we see that market continues to go up. I think it would be great is every Cowboys player took lowball offers and played below market value but that is not reality.

Oh I'm not saying Cooper's contract is too much. I understand the market and the cost of doing business. Same for the quarterback.

Bullflop · Oct 16, 2020

I wouldn't be surprised if the Dallas FO decided to do that to help settle their cap issues. Amari's contract is too expensive for someone who can't be available more reliably than what he can. As much as I hate parting with someone of his abilities, it does appear a practical decision. It could, quite possibly, open the door for some sorely needed defensive help. I'd say it's past time for our FO to finally tend to that.

Doomsday101 · Oct 16, 2020

PAPPYDOG said:
Love the Coop man just don't think he's worth 20 million a year and that no 1 pick was over-kill for this WR.
But again another overpay as our offense was D.O.A.

Saying you don't feel he is worth that? fine, but then claiming that is how other teams in the NFL feel? lol Cooper deal is well within range of the current market value of WR

Doomsday101 · Oct 16, 2020

stasheroo said:
Oh I'm not saying Cooper's contract is too much. I understand the market and the cost of doing business. Same for the quarterback.

My stance is I am willing to trade pretty much anyone if the price is what I want. Walker trade showed me any player is subject to trade if you are willing to pay the price I want. Now of course I don't expect that for Cooper or really any player in the NFL these days but I still expect to get what I want or just say no. I don't think Cowboys have to trade Cooper but again if someone is willing to make an offer I would listen to it

Stash · Oct 16, 2020

Doomsday101 said:
My stance is I am willing to trade pretty much anyone if the price is what I want. Walker trade showed me any player is subject to trade if you are willing to pay the price I want. Now of course I don't expect that for Cooper or really any player in the NFL these days but I still expect to get what I want or just say no. I don't think Cowboys have to trade Cooper but again if someone is willing to make an offer I would listen to it

Same here.

AbeBeta · Oct 16, 2020

Texas_Pete said:
Stupid? I beg to differ, dude.

It would be stupid to differ.

KMY_Amber · Oct 16, 2020

I'd privately shop him to other FOs. If we can get back some higher draft picks or some defensive studs at LB or as a DB, I'd seriously consider pulling the trigger.

Texas_Pete · Oct 16, 2020

AbeBeta said:
It would be stupid to differ.

Bobhaze · Oct 16, 2020

From a philosophical standpoint, if I were a GM, unless I had Jerry Rice or Emmitt Smith, I would be very, very hesitant to sign big deals with WRs and RBs. This isn’t the 90s. And, frankly, it’s not as critical in today’s NFL to have a “bell cow” RB or a so called “#1 receiver”.

Our fans seem think the “triplets” days of having a star RB, WR and QB are still relevant. Nowadays, you have to have at least a good QB but you can win a SB with a RB by committee and young, talented, inexpensive WRs on rookie deals. Like Gallup and Lamb.

I was against signing Cooper this offseason. Not because I don’t like him. I just felt we needed the cap space more at other places.

Ranched · Oct 16, 2020

Coops overpaid making $20 million per. Had Dallas grabbed him in the draft, maybe he'd be worth it. Not now.

Raiders had the best of him.

jaythecowboy · Oct 16, 2020

stasheroo said:
Sorry, but that's a requirement for me before anyone suggests trading or cutting a player.

As with this season, people are suggesting 'fire sales' and trading for and away from players without considering the financial impact, which are deal breakers.

I wish before people suggested things, they checked into whether or not they were feasible.

Nothing personal.

I'm starting to think that should be a rule lol

Bobhaze · Oct 16, 2020

kskboys said:
If his salary could go w/ the trade, I would. It's not about how good Amari is, it's about the fact that we are going nowhere until we fix the D. If his salary went w/ him, that 20 mil could be used on a big nasty D player, one that would truly improve our team.

If his salary gets dumped into next season, nope.

This!
And here’s a very relevant question- What is this team trying to be? A power running team that controls the clock, with a decent, conservative defense? Or is it a pass happy, fast break offense, heavy on WR skill, and a defense that needs to be able to force TOs, etc, etc. Who knows what this FO is trying build here? Because it looks like they’re just playing fantasy football instead of real team roster building.

AbeBeta · Oct 16, 2020

Bobhaze said:
From a philosophical standpoint, if I were a GM, unless I had Jerry Rice or Emmitt Smith, I would be very, very hesitant to sign big deals with WRs and RBs. This isn’t the 90s. And, frankly, it’s not as critical in today’s NFL to have a “bell cow” RB or a so called “#1 receiver”.

Our fans seem think the “triplets” days of having a star RB, WR and QB are still relevant. Nowadays, you have to have at least a good QB but you can win a SB with a RB by committee and young, talented, inexpensive WRs on rookie deals. Like Gallup and Lamb.

I was against signing Cooper this offseason. Not because I don’t like him. I just felt we needed the cap space more at other places.

Great philosophy. How'd that go for the Texans?

Bobhaze · Oct 16, 2020

AbeBeta said:
Great philosophy. How'd that go for the Texans?

How’s this one going for us?

The Texans are a train wreck because of more than a stupid wr trade.

Stash · Oct 16, 2020

jaythecowboy said:
I'm starting to think that should be a rule lol

I wish!

A proposal or idea should have even the smallest investment of research put into it before a thread is created. Otherwise, it's just baseless spit-balling and throwing something out there just to see if it sticks or gets a reaction.

Whyjerry · Oct 16, 2020

Texas_Pete said:
I can't believe I'm typing this but I think it's time to trade him. Gallup has WR1 traits. Cee Dee does as well. Cedric Wilson seems poised to be a good WR3. They are all on their rookie deals. Gallup gonna need a new contract and we know eventually Cee Dee gonna get a big 2nd contract.

Love Coop but at $20M I am expecting more from him. His knick knack injuries are starting to pile up. Not sure what the Cowboys can get for him, but trading him should be explored this offseason or sooner.

Thoughts?

They should have never signed him. Please trade him.

Whyjerry · Oct 16, 2020

ShortRound131 said:
Gase is desperate and crazy, see if he bites on Zeke / Gallup.

Old Adam is dead man walking. He will be fired as soon as the season ends. He might not even make it that long.

cern · Oct 16, 2020

a sound business tenet says don't make a decision until you need to. if amari catches the winning pass in the big dance we will all sing his praises.

MyFairLady · Oct 16, 2020

Theoretically if you can trade away a high priced player on your team for a premium draft pick you should be able to turn that trade into a productive player on a rookie deal and a productive high priced free agent. It is one of the few ways to maximize resources in the modern NFL. Good teams will try to do these things. Bad teams like us do the opposite.

Proof · Oct 16, 2020

Texas_Pete said:
I can't believe I'm typing this but I think it's time to trade him. Gallup has WR1 traits. Cee Dee does as well. Cedric Wilson seems poised to be a good WR3. They are all on their rookie deals. Gallup gonna need a new contract and we know eventually Cee Dee gonna get a big 2nd contract.

Love Coop but at $20M I am expecting more from him. His knick knack injuries are starting to pile up. Not sure what the Cowboys can get for him, but trading him should be explored this offseason or sooner.

Thoughts?

haven't read the thread, so not sure if this has been addressed already, but here's the highest paid receivers in the league and their associated production

julio 22 213 yds 71 y/g 0 tds 15 rec

keenan allen 20 356 yds 71 y/g 1 td 34 rec

amari cooper 20 424 yds 84.8 y/g 1 td 39 rec

michael thomas 19 N/A

Tyreek Hill 18 364 yds 72.8 y/g 4 td 22 Rec

OBJ 18 294 58.8 y/g 3 td 21 Rec

Amari is leading them across the board except for odell and tyreek on tds

Now you can argue that none of them deserve to be paid that much, but by peer comparison, he's absolutely living up to his deal. and is one of the rare players lately who's production has improved after getting paid.

Amari is awesome. it may wind up being prudent to get rid of him at some point depending on how things shake out, but we shouldn't be looking forward to it, as he's the most productive, most consistent wide receiver on the team (as the #1) , and directly responsible for his would be replacements having the success they are.

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