Stephen Jones says that Dak Prescott’s injury didn’t impact his value in contract negotiations

Jeffkills

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Steven Jones is a HORRIBLE negotiator, and I hope he strokes out and dies...

Remember him propping up Dak’s value last year, leading him to ask for outrageous money...

Why not just say his value has been impacted because of reality?

Moron needs to be boiled alive.
 

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Once again it's Stephen unnecessarily announcing negotiation strategy.

"We certainly saw what Gurley got paid and we know that’s probably where it starts, and we’ll go from there.”
Exactly...

How about you do your own job, not the agents, you damn fool...
 

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I think he'll make a complete recovery and suffer no ill effects from the injury. Negotiations will likely pick up where they ended last year. Both parties now understand where the other is coming from. I suspect the 4 year issue will go away and dallas will agree to it.
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People arw forgetting about timelines.

Nobody's going to sign Dak to a long term deal franchise QB until he passes a physical. That wont be for at least 9 months and possibly longer. Free agency, offseason, draft etc will all be over by then. No team, including Dallas is going to take chance that they might come to an agreement with an unrestricted FA QB, who may or may not pass a physical at the start of camp.

The reality is that any team who doesnt snag a potential starter in FA, will try to draft high in April.
 

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People arw forgetting about timelines.

Nobody's going to sign Dak to a long term deal franchise QB until he passes a physical. That wont be for at least 9 months and possibly longer. Free agency, offseason, draft etc will all be over by then. No team, including Dallas is going to take chance that they might come to an agreement with an unrestricted FA QB, who may or may not pass a physical at the start of camp.

The reality is that any team who doesnt snag a potential starter in FA, will try to draft high in April.
Your exactly right! I do think Dak has lost his leverage and he very well might fire his agent and take team friendly short term deal from the Jones boys unless Dallas is in a position where they could draft a top ranked QB.
 

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All y'all championing this number 1 offense I'm not sure y'all do more than see numbers and say that's it. This offense isn't number 1 outside the stats sheet. They go on long stretches of not doing nothing and never seem to get rolling unless down by 2/3 scores in the second half. Yeah some awesome number 1 offense. The one game that was close the whole game they scored 17.
i really only care about wins. but when someone says we can't move the ball with dak and in fact we're the #1 offense in the league, i feel it should be pointed out. and doing so with two new tackles, a new center, and a new tight end make that no small feat. i'd hate to think that individual would be content to go about his business knowing his facts were so incorrect.
 

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i really only care about wins. but when someone says we can't move the ball with dak and in fact we're the #1 offense in the league, i feel it should be pointed out. and doing so with two new tackles, a new center, and a new tight end make that no small feat. i'd hate to think that individual would be content to go about his business knowing his facts were so incorrect.
We don't move the ball with Dak until its mainly too late. That's why I said a lot of people and you seem to be one of them are fooled by numbers like you don't watch the games. The facts are technically correct but in context incorrect because only DakBoy fans will hype them numbers up when they come in statistical long shot wining opportunities.
 
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No team falls in love with average players more than this team and the dunces that run it...

Dak gambled and lost. Move on. Sign Dalton to an extension...

Start showing these overpaid average players the door...
 

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We don't move the ball with Dak until its mainly too late. That's why I said a lot of people and you seem to be one of them are fooled by numbers like you don't watch the games. The facts are technically incorrect but in context correct because only DakBoy fans will hype them numbers up when they come in statistical not good wining opportunities.
Numbers speak for themselves, ergo i'm not fooled by them. More to the point is that numbers can be interpreted differently by people, often a function of their agenda. This is your way of thinking. I simply stated the numbers show we have the #1 offense. I didn't offer any opinions beyond that. It matters not one wit to me if dak, zeke, or kellen moore is most responsible for that fact. The numbers are what they are. The woodspurge has a cup of three. Unlike yourself, i have no agenda.
 

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Really. Some people here seem to think the best negotiating strategy is to make things as contentious as possible.
I would imagine it's because most here have never negotiated a contract with big money involved. . .
 

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Numbers speak for themselves, ergo i'm not fooled by them. More to the point is that numbers can be interpreted differently by people, often a function of their agenda. This is your way of thinking. I simply stated the numbers show we have the #1 offense. I didn't offer any opinions beyond that. It matters not one wit to me if dak, zeke, or kellen moore is most responsible for that fact. The numbers are what they are. The woodspurge has a cup of three. Unlike yourself, i have no agenda.
Nope numbers don't speak for themselves or if they do they aren't clear hence why you're fooled and I'm not. Everybody has an agenda spare me the self righteous bs. Yeah my way of thinking is putting end of the game numbers with no context of how they came to be is silly. Ill hand you a cookie for exposing that me like you and everybody else has an "agenda"
 

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That’s BS and he knows it.

Considering the severity of his injury, it's hard for me to imagine how that ankle will be as strong and reliable as it was prior to the injury. I sprained an ankle really bad once, and for about the next 2-3 years that ankle would give way if I stepped on even a small rock the wrong way, and playing football is a lot more demanding than anything I was doing.
That would cause me to pause and think before I committed to a humongous contract. I don't know, is there enough tape to protect a $40 million ankle after an injury that severe?
Scary thought.
 
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Nope numbers don't speak for themselves or if they do they aren't clear hence why you're fooled and I'm not. Everybody has an agenda spare me the self righteous bs. Yeah my way of thinking is putting end of the game numbers with no context of how they came to be is silly. Ill hand you a cookie for exposing that me like you and everybody else has an "agenda"
I only stated the numbers. I didn't explain or attempt in any way to interpret them. Ypg and ppg are first grade math. You're attempting to start an argument over nothing. I find such endeavors boring. The numbers are the numbers. Glean from that what you will.
 

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I would imagine it's because most here have never negotiated a contract with big money involved. . .
Buying a car, new or used, or a home, with or without wheels, does not qualify someone to be proficient at writing hundred million dollar deals. Some of the concerns that have been stated are worthy of merit, but that doesn't necessarily qualify one as an expert. I think stephen's a sharp guy. Some don't agree.
 

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I only stated the numbers. I didn't explain or attempt in any way to interpret them. Ypg and ppg are first grade math. You're attempting to start an argument over nothing. I find such endeavors boring. The numbers are the numbers. Glean from that what you will.
I know you only stated the numbers. That's why I said what I said to your post in the first place. I'm not attempting to start anything. That's you seeing something that isn't there. Like you said a matter of perception because I was just explaining my point that it made to you. If you don't like it eh but this I'm trying to start an argument spare me because I'm not and I'm posting it again for emphasis I'm not trying to start an argument with you. I'm telling you why I disagree and you can take it or leave it makes me no difference at all.
 

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I know you only stated the numbers. That's why I said what I said to your post in the first place. I'm not attempting to start anything. That's you seeing something that isn't there. Like you said a matter of perception because I was just explaining my point that it made to you. If you don't like it eh but this I'm trying to start an argument spare me because I'm not and I'm posting it again for emphasis I'm not trying to start an argument with you. I'm telling you why I disagree and you can take it or leave it makes me no difference at all.
Duly noted.
 

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I've taken a lot of heat for sticking up for JJ and Co, but when they make stupid *** comments like this one I've got to draw a line in the sand. Does Steven have a crystal ball we don't know about?
 

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If he says it didn't have an impact that means it did.

Right, because Stevie is known as a shrewd negotiator who keeps things close to the vest and provides disinformation to throw off the other party. :muttley:

“We’ve got it budgeted that we’re going to pay Zeke a significant contract at some point. We certainly saw what Gurley got paid and we know that’s probably where it starts, and we’ll go from there.”
 
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