Colin Cowherd questions if Dak will be back in Dallas?

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What about letting 4 starters walk in Free Agency? Or the drafts in which we risked drafting injury riddled players like Van Esch, Smith and Lee. And the bust like Taco and Hill with our 1st pick. All contributing factors for this defense and prior defenses weakness this era. And that doesn’t even include the potential poor coaching decisions.
Which 4 starters? Hill was playing well. Too bad he got injured. Taco was a product of the Garrett/marinelli blunder. Esch and lee, can't argue. Jaylon had the game of his career sunday.
 

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Which 4 starters? Hill was playing well. Too bad he got injured. Taco was a product of the Garrett/marinelli blunder. Esch and lee, can't argue. Jaylon had the game of his career sunday.
The 4 starters on defense we let walk in free agency.
Jones, Collins, Heath and Quinn.


Taking stock of Cowboys' losses
Byron Jones started 73 games in the Dallas secondary from when the Cowboys selected him in the first round of the 2015 draft through 2019. Maliek Collins pitched in 55 starts at defensive tackle after the Cowboys drafted him 2016 in the third round, just before their fourth-round selection of Prescott. Safety Jeff Heath started 54 games at safety—and stabilized special teams units in twice as many contests—since the Cowboys found him undrafted in 2013. Also departing was defensive end Robert Quinn, who raced to 11 1/2 sacks in 14 games last season.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-agency-byron-jones-mike-mccarthy/2896868001/
 
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Dak would be smart getting out of dodge unless he wants his career to be defined by 'not getting it done' ala Romo. It's clear the Jones boys don't want to get a GM any time soon and we've already refreshed everything to the same results. They will keep hiring questionable coaches that they are 'comfortable with' and we will keep underperforming.
 

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Of course . This is whether you get frustrated with the argument with differing opinions and begin insulting me.
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee, frustrated over your comments???? Nope that's not it, what I have a problem with is the consist bashing of an owner who in my opinion has done a pretty good job tying up players with long term contracts that favor the Cowboys. What's unfortunate is these players are either going down with injuries or they aren't as talented as EVERYONE thought they would be and JJ is getting blamed for for all this. Who would of thought that both J Smith and Lawrence would turn into major busts after they signed for the big bucks. These two players that EVERYONE thought would carry the Cowboy's defense for years to come couldn't start on most of the teams in the NFL. As for JJ's ability to draft players, that's where the disconnect is happening. He needs to let go and bring in a GM with some football savvy. He's having major issues finding diamonds in the rough in rounds 4 - 7. These are the rounds that make a team and the Cowboys need help in this area if they want to be competitive in this league.
 

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It’s not a matter of deserving but priorities. Drafting Lamb was a luxury pick if we kept Cooper. But basically what teams are keeping their Elite QB contract, Wr and RB. Something has to give .

On defense Lawrence and Smith both overhyped .
Your right, Lamb was a luxury pick. BUT how could any team pass on him? He has all the makings of a super star in this league and going into this season I sure the thought process was with what we have now and adding this young stud to the mix it would be near impossible to stop this offense. But the injuries have destroyed that. As for the defense, there's a couple of things that has brought this D to their knees. First and foremost, injuries have played a major part in this D. Also, the play of both J Smith and Lawrence is mind boggling. These two's level of play has gone to a level that no one saw coming, they're both major busts in my mind. If their level of play matched the level of hype they both received this team's record would be 4-1 all day long. If it wasn't for the dismal play of Atlanta's Special Team's this team would of been 0-4 going into the game against the Giants. There only one way to go from here.........UP UP AND AWAY!!!
 

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Perhaps you should start listening to “well known members” because you’re clearly ignorant when it comes to this team’s personnel decisions and obviously don’t keep up with the rest of the league.

Yes, just because a GM/Owner opens up his wallet doesn’t excuse him of liability from being a moron. So you’re saying owners/GM’s who pay money for players shouldn’t be held responsible for poor decisions regarding those players?! Lol, I guess Bill O’brien should have been GM of the year instead of being fired!

Not one team has been hit with as many injuries to starters as the Cowboys and you mean “not one team?”
Before I make you look further a fool, I suggest you do a little more research. I literally have the link copied, and just to need to paste it, to show how wrong you are. Proceed at your own risk, you’ve already made some ridiculously dumb comments and I’m giving you one last chance to correct yourself or not respond (most likely scenario).

BTW, not that this matters, but even if you were right about who has the most injured starters currently (which you’re not), the question should be who had had the most injured starters since week 1 in which case you’re still wrong.
POST THE LIST! What team has lost their starting TE and 4/5's of their offensive line to injuries or retirement???????? Can't hear you! You can't tell me you weren't all amped up when JJ signed Lawrence and J Smith ( Smith's contract favored the Cowboys on signing day) to long term deals. So it's JJ's fault these two are major busts in this league????? I'm calling BS. You all upset because he let a couple of players walk? Jones ended up getting hurt in Miami and that Safety who went to the Raiders was average at best when he played here OR are you upset because over the hill Witten was also let go OR are you upset because JJ hasn't signed E Thomas who can't get a long with coaches & players? I suppose you're all pissed off because he didn't let Dak walk all over him in the contract talks? What else could you possibly have?????? Can't hear ya !!!!!! Another WELL KNOWN MEMBER who has thousands of posts.........BIG DEAL!!!!!!
 

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Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee, frustrated over your comments???? Nope that's not it, what I have a problem with is the consist bashing of an owner who in my opinion has done a pretty good job tying up players with long term contracts that favor the Cowboys. What's unfortunate is these players are either going down with injuries or they aren't as talented as EVERYONE thought they would be and JJ is getting blamed for for all this. Who would of thought that both J Smith and Lawrence would turn into major busts after they signed for the big bucks. These two players that EVERYONE thought would carry the Cowboy's defense for years to come couldn't start on most of the teams in the NFL. As for JJ's ability to draft players, that's where the disconnect is happening. He needs to let go and bring in a GM with some football savvy. He's having major issues finding diamonds in the rough in rounds 4 - 7. These are the rounds that make a team and the Cowboys need help in this area if they want to be competitive in this league.
And that’s the core difference in our opinions. You believe Jethro has done a pretty good job or gets some sort of pass defending our dysfunctional ownership.

He will get bashed and continue to get bashed until the results come in or he steps down.

And we are allowed to bash anything Cowboy related without being subjected to personal insults or attacks attempting to discredit our message if you don’t like message. Stick to the substance of the argument and discussion at hand. That’s the frustration I refer to.
 

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POST THE LIST! What team has lost their starting TE and 4/5's of their offensive line to injuries or retirement???????? Can't hear you! You can't tell me you weren't all amped up when JJ signed Lawrence and J Smith ( Smith's contract favored the Cowboys on signing day) to long term deals. So it's JJ's fault these two are major busts in this league????? I'm calling BS. You all upset because he let a couple of players walk? Jones ended up getting hurt in Miami and that Safety who went to the Raiders was average at best when he played here OR are you upset because over the hill Witten was also let go OR are you upset because JJ hasn't signed E Thomas who can't get a long with coaches & players? I suppose you're all pissed off because he didn't let Dak walk all over him in the contract talks? What else could you possibly have?????? Can't hear ya !!!!!! Another WELL KNOWN MEMBER who has thousands of posts.........BIG DEAL!!!!!!
These decisions that were made in offseason regardless whether we agree with them or not are articles which can be used in criteria of data which could be attributed to the downfall of this defense and the results thus far this season.

They are ultimately contributing factors much like injuries, new coaching , schemes , lack of preseason and current situation the world is in, etc.

We may not agree on every detail and the weight it carries overall but we can’t totally dismiss their potential impact.
 

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Your right, Lamb was a luxury pick. BUT how could any team pass on him? He has all the makings of a super star in this league and going into this season I sure the thought process was with what we have now and adding this young stud to the mix it would be near impossible to stop this offense. But the injuries have destroyed that. As for the defense, there's a couple of things that has brought this D to their knees. First and foremost, injuries have played a major part in this D. Also, the play of both J Smith and Lawrence is mind boggling. These two's level of play has gone to a level that no one saw coming, they're both major busts in my mind. If their level of play matched the level of hype they both received this team's record would be 4-1 all day long. If it wasn't for the dismal play of Atlanta's Special Team's this team would of been 0-4 going into the game against the Giants. There only one way to go from here.........UP UP AND AWAY!!!
The same reason we’d of passed on a QB or RB with that pick.

In Cap era teams can’t afford to stockpile talent on certain positions. It leads to insurmountable weaknesses throughout the roster.

Lamb is a great pick if we don’t sign Cooper. Otherwise I’d argue a luxury we couldn’t afford.

With the Cap money , draft picks and investment we’ve made on offense it has to be great enough to totally carry a bottom feeder defense . Or it becomes improperly managing our assets causing the imbalance we are seeing. And the results follow.
 

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POST THE LIST! What team has lost their starting TE and 4/5's of their offensive line to injuries or retirement???????? Can't hear you! You can't tell me you weren't all amped up when JJ signed Lawrence and J Smith ( Smith's contract favored the Cowboys on signing day) to long term deals. So it's JJ's fault these two are major busts in this league????? I'm calling BS. You all upset because he let a couple of players walk? Jones ended up getting hurt in Miami and that Safety who went to the Raiders was average at best when he played here OR are you upset because over the hill Witten was also let go OR are you upset because JJ hasn't signed E Thomas who can't get a long with coaches & players? I suppose you're all pissed off because he didn't let Dak walk all over him in the contract talks? What else could you possibly have?????? Can't hear ya !!!!!! Another WELL KNOWN MEMBER who has thousands of posts.........BIG DEAL!!!!!!
Wow, you’re really not that smart, are you? Instead of doing minor research you decided to come back for more after I told you that you were wrong. If you want to go through each team and filter out who you think is a worthy starter then feel free, I’m not doing that for you. I like how now you’re changing it certain positions, not just overall injuries. I can play that game too, I can ask who has had more injuries on the D line, more injuries to WR’s, etc. If you recall, in your original post you said “there isn’t a single NFL team that has this many injuries to STARTERS!” And now you’re already shifting the goal posts.

Glancing through your post history, may I recommend anger management classes? You are constantly yelling at people who not only disagree with you but prove you wrong. You’re a special someone, hang in there! As usual, let me do the work for you.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/injuries.htm

https://www.footballdb.com/transactions/injured-reserve.html?sortfld=team&sortdir=asc

Granted this is 3 weeks old so we have lost some players since then and so have some of the other teams. Dallas doesn’t even make the list.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...ams-most-affected-injuries-week-2/5856295002/

Hell no I wasn’t excited about Smith being signed, I liked him as a person but not nearly deserving as a player. If you recall, Jerrah was trying to teach zeke a lesson and had zeke not held out I’m willing to bet Jerrah would have never signed Smith. That’s two contracts that the idiot GM got wrong, caved to a RB with two years left on his contract and a LB who hadn’t shown enough consistently to warrant his contract.

The rest of your post is just pointless blather and unfounded accusations in the form of questions. The only one you got right for me personally was letting Jones walk. His injury irrelevant. No one could predict that and long term he still would have benefited this team. That’s like saying we let some very good player walk, especially a player that is ranked top 10 in his position which happens to be our weakest area, and because he got injured it was the smart move to make when he had no injury history?

Maybe the reason you keep saying “I can’t hear you” is because you’re so busy shouting and ranting at others through your keyboard. You would be a lot better off, and maybe learn something, if you actually read what other people have to say. There are a lot of smart people on this site who can be beneficial to listen to whether you agree or not, unfortunately you’re not one of them, not even close.

Don’t even bother responding, I’ve learned my time on this site is better spent listening to or even arguing with people who are at least knowledgeable and back up their arguments with facts, you do neither therefore I’m blocking you.

Get some help, and that’s saying a lot coming from someone like me.
 

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Jerry's got enough money at this point, he wants to win as badly as anyone....he just doesn't know how to do it and that is the problem, If he swallowed his ego and had hired any competent GM in the last 32 years we would have had ourselves another SB or two
I disagree. I believe he does know what it takes . He just refuses to remove himself.

He did afterall a few years ago state he’d of fired a GM with his record. That’s an admission of guilt.

The bottomline is the fans haven’t forced his hand with the continued support and record revenue generated.
 

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What about all of the other careers that was wasted in Dallas? Romo, Witten, Ware, etc, all deserved better. Dak has played with more talent than any of players from the last 25 years, but that only lasted a year or two.
More talent on offense. But it’s difficult to win championships without a balanced team.

You might be able to have some success against average and lesser teams in regular season but the playoffs will expose your weaknesses against the better more balanced teams.

Our record against playoff teams and ones with winning records supports this.
 

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It'd be the best thing for the team if all parties involved moved on, dude is just an average QB that could easily be replaced, not a championship caliber player.
 

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I disagree. I believe he does know what it takes . He just refuses to remove himself.

He did afterall a few years ago state he’d of fired a GM with his record. That’s an admission of guilt.

The bottomline is the fans haven’t forced his hand with the continued support and record revenue generated.


He's had the last 25 years or so to prove he knows what it takes. If he knew what it took he would have gotten us there. I'd say he's a great owner and inept GM but any smart owner would have removed any GM with his record long long ago, so basically as much as i like Jerry (and i do) as far a running a football team where the goal is championships, he has failed miserably at being both an owner and GM, now as far as running a football team that makes money and is a "brand Name" He is a genious as an owner
 
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