Dear Cowboys fans: Talent alone will never overcome dysfunction

Diehardblues · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
This is true of every single head coach and GM in the league.

Do you believe our owner wearing both hats provides Cowboys Football the best opportunity for success?

Future · Oct 26, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Do you believe our owner wearing both hats provides Cowboys Football the best opportunity for success?

I think that it doesn't make a difference one way or another.

It's not as if McClay doesn't have a ton of influence anyway.

birdwells1 · Oct 26, 2020

Reid1boys said:
its amazing... I guess the titans all of the sudden flicked the switch on all of those things you listed..... all of the sudden they are held accountable?
It is hilarious to me how many of you still think the coach makes the team. Hey, how did the cards all of the sudden become legit? Did that coach learn to coach all of the sudden? Studied a little extra game film? Got a little more strict? Nope, they didnt do a DAMN thing differently from a coaching stand point..... they got a damn qb that simply makes his team on the right side of the bell shaped curve. You think the Chargers coaches all of the sudden got their coaching degree from Tuna University? Or that Rookie qb is seriously legit and puts the team on the right side of that bell shaped curve.

Even as much as our defense sucked and offense turned ball over, with Dak playing we could have played with about anyone, as was shown in the seattle game.
The steelers.... did they make the playoffs last year? IM thinking they are SB contenders at the moment. Did the steelers bring in a bunch of stud Asst coaches to bring in discipline and stability? Nah, they just got their HOF QB back in the mix.

How good do you think Claypool would be balling out with the Jets and Sam Darnold?
GM Mistakes normally revolve around the QB. Hey, Devante Parker could have pretty much been viewed as a GM mistake. Then Fitzmagic comes in and all of the sudden that mistake looks like a good pick. How is the great coaching in Seattle doing with that defense? Not so good, but Russel Wilson is balling out and they were 5-0, so those defensive woes arent talked about so much, are they?

Quickly, name the GMs and owner for those teams? See you can't do it so the coaches are allowed to be the buck stoppers, simply the end all be all for their respective teams thus setting the culture.

Here Jerry sets the culture and any coach has to overcome this bigger than life personality to set the culture.

Jake · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
I think that it doesn't make a difference one way or another.

Of course you do.

I'd explain why it does but if you need it explained after 25 years there's no point in explaining it. You'll never get it.

Diehardblues · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
I think that it doesn't make a difference one way or another.

It's not as if McClay doesn't have a ton of influence anyway.

Then why doesn’t the rest of the league follow our model?

It certainly has made a difference this generation when we compare the results of teams that haven’t followed our model.

You are the first fan I’ve conversed with that actually believes our owner wearing both hats and how he has ran football operations hasn’t made a difference. Amazing testimony!!

Future · Oct 26, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Then why doesn’t the rest of the league follow our model?

This isn't a genuine question, seeing as how I just said I don't think it matters.

Future · Oct 26, 2020

Jake said:
Of course you do.

I'd explain why it does but if you need it explained after 25 years there's no point in explaining it. You'll never get it.

OMG you're, like, so so smart.

You can't explain it because it's fanfic. There's nothing tangible to suggest it matters.

Bobhaze · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
You're just using the word dysfunctional instead of bad. Basically you're just unhappy with the talent of the team and extrapolating it into something that it's not.

The reality is that this team is so decimated by injuries that you can't possible give a realistic evaluation of what the front office did over the offseason. Health would eliminate a lot of that dysfunction...

If you can't evaluate this FO by now, perhaps in another 25 years?

fivetwos · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
I think that it doesn't make a difference one way or another.

It's not as if McClay doesn't have a ton of influence anyway.

I understand your point to a point and somewhat agree.

I dont think Jerry does things on his own...really at all.

The problem seems to be, aside from the extremely bad look at the moment, the idea that HE is the face, HE is the boss, and that's that.

That's the type of thing that makes a coachs difficult job to command the respect of today's player almost impossible.

I agree that if Jerry agreed to step down that wouldn't automatically turn Dallas into a winner. Theres plenty of poor GMs out there.

In the end, I dont even so much need him to give up GM as much as I think it would help ANY staff here if he would publicly state, and act, like the HC is the boss far as player accountability is concerned.

And get the heck off the radio regularly.

I think that's a reasonable happy medium for everyone and what I'm hoping for.

A lot of what's written in this thread is semantics.

Diehardblues · Oct 26, 2020

Jake said:
Of course you do.

I'd explain why it does but if you need it explained after 25 years there's no point in explaining it. You'll never get it.

Id heard there were fans out there that believes our owner provides us the best opportunity to win the way he runs Cowboys Football but never had communication with one before. Compelling testimony.

Future · Oct 26, 2020

fivetwos said:
The problem seems to be, aside from the extremely bad look at the moment, the idea that HE is the face, HE is the boss, and that's that.

Yes. And this is the thing that is created by fans and only cared about by fans. Players don't care. It's not like Romo, Witten, Tyron, Martin, Frederick, Ware or whoever have ever had a problem being a Cowboy because Jerry was the face of it.

It's not really true anyways, relative to at least a dozen other owners. It's not like Bob Kraft and Arthur Blank are inconspicuous.

Diehardblues · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
This isn't a genuine question, seeing as how I just said I don't think it matters.

The rest of the league then should be following our model. Or is Jethro the only owner qualified to be a GM.

Your point of view may take me awhile to soak in. I’m not really sure whether to take you serious or if this just another defense of everything under the star.

Miller · Oct 26, 2020

This post and Magruder sums it up nicely..we are all getting trolled

Future · Oct 26, 2020

Bobhaze said:
If you can't evaluate this FO by now, perhaps in another 25 years?

Yes because the 3 Super Bowls Jerry won don't count.

Guess Tom Landry wasn't that good, because he only won 3 in 30 years too.

This is just a stupid argument. You don't like Jerry, we know. The idea that there is just ridiculous dysfunction from top to bottom, unique from other teams in a league, is a fairy tale.

Diehardblues · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
Yes. And this is the thing that is created by fans and only cared about by fans. Players don't care. It's not like Romo, Witten, Tyron, Martin, Frederick, Ware or whoever have ever had a problem being a Cowboy because Jerry was the face of it.

It's not really true anyways, relative to at least a dozen other owners. It's not like Bob Kraft and Arthur Blank are inconspicuous.

You don’t see the difference in how our owner runs football operations ?

Diehardblues · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
Yes because the 3 Super Bowls Jerry won don't count.

Guess Tom Landry wasn't that good, because he only won 3 in 30 years too.

This is just a stupid argument. You don't like Jerry, we know. The idea that there is just ridiculous dysfunction from top to bottom, unique from other teams in a league, is a fairy tale.

Of course . The world has it all wrong and you are right.

Future · Oct 26, 2020

Diehardblues said:
The rest of the league then should be following our model. Or is Jethro the only owner qualified to be a GM.

Your point of view may take me awhile to soak in. I’m not really sure whether to take you serious or if this just another defense of everything under the star.

What does this even mean? I didn't say that anybody should follow it, because one way isn't better than the other. Belichick is HC and GM, and I don't think every team should follow that.

I'm not even defending Jerry. I don't think he's a particularly good GM. But the "culture" stuff is just made up.

Future · Oct 26, 2020

Diehardblues said:
You don’t see the difference in how our owner runs football operations ?

Go ahead and tell me what they tangibly are. Go ahead.

Diehardblues · Oct 26, 2020

Future said:
What does this even mean? I didn't say that anybody should follow it, because one way isn't better than the other. Belichick is HC and GM, and I don't think every team should follow that.

I'm not even defending Jerry. I don't think he's a particularly good GM. But the "culture" stuff is just made up.

Wait. You said you thought he provides us our best opportunity to win but now say he’s not a good GM. Lol

Future · Oct 26, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Of course . The world has it all wrong and you are right.

Bob posts the same thread about Jerry every week. It's always baseless.

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