If Nolan isn't fired you might as well chalk this era of MM as failure

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Sydla said:
Well for startes, "know it all", I don't want all the coaches fired. I want one fired - Nolan. And this isn't revisionist history either. I didn't like his hiring from the start. He had a poor run in Atlanta and then never sniffed another DC job until his buddy McCarthy got hired here. So right from the start this looked like a poor hire.

Let's talk about the D. If you had one or two players having issues with the scheme, I would better understand this line of reasoning but when the entire D looks confused and struggling, it's kind of silly to try to argue that all the players are dumb or stupid or making mistakes and that the DC is not a factor here. We are 7 games into the season and the same crap keeps popping up. Guess what happened AGAIN in that Skins game? Based on the fact the defense has to make a bunch of reads even right before the start, the secondary/LBs were again confused where half were thinking we were in zone and half playing man. That's coaching when it keeps happening week after week.

Keep Nolan for 3-4 years? That's basically wasting 3-4 years learning something that should be becoming apparent to the Jones and the fans. Nolan is simply not good enough.
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Its the most asinine approach you could take. You see a mistake and you just give him 3-4 more years because.....well just because. Just to look right. Its failing. This is not working. Get rid of him.
 
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Where in the hell did I say Nolan didn't try fixing it or that he's running a tough scheme? I said he sucks. Are you on crack?

Damn Jerry loves sheep like you. You make the money go round.
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show me its not the players

saying he sux is a opinion not based in facts if you cant show hes not doing all he can and its the players..show me
 
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rocyaice said:
Its the most asinine approach you could take. You see a mistake and you just give him 3-4 more years because.....well just because. Just to look right. Its failing. This is not working. Get rid of him.
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no one said give Nolan 3-4 more years i said mm and no its not he deserves time to get his plan implemented..

no 10yr Garett plan 3-4 , yes MM deserves that long especially given this years obvious circumstances..
 
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rocyaice said:
McCarthy has a SB though....not even that long ago. He failed on this hire though. I don't know if its the mask or what but he looks clueless.
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11 years ago. It's a different game now. It's like us and the Jets are the only teams that haven't figured this out. And we're not as good as the Jets.
 
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show me its not the players

saying he sux is a opinion not based in facts if you cant show hes not doing all he can and its the players..show me
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I never said it was fact. Its my opinion Nolan sucks. Its FACT That Nolan has never had a good defense though. Its fact that Nolan has been proven to be a terrible coach. Its fact that players dislike him wherever he goes. Its fact that McCarthy took a failed DC who was relegated to coaching linebackers and decided to make him a DC. He sucks. Show me proof he doesn't suck how about that?
 
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blueblood70 said:
no one said give Nolan 3-4 more years i said mm and no its not he deserves time to get his plan implemented..

no 10yr Garett plan 3-4 , yes MM deserves that long especially given this years obvious circumstances..
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Fire McCarthy if he does this against next season. It doesn't take 3-4 years in this league to start winning. Only sucky teams with new head coaches who are struggling are Commanders, Giants and Cowboys. Browns and Panthers are winning with new head coaches.
 

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I believe Nolan will be gone. Dallas will promote Edwards which would be an opportunity for MM to make a change without creating too much upheaval.
 
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rocyaice said:
Fire McCarthy if he does this against next season. It doesn't take 3-4 years in this league to start winning. Only sucky teams with new head coaches who are struggling are Commanders, Giants and Cowboys. Browns and Panthers are winning with new head coaches.
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sorry but neither had the injury list like ours its far and away devastating to any coach

blind fans needing something to feel good about writing around here..

if we were near 90% healthy and this happens again, sure but this season is flat out mulligan..so i say 3years minimum and 4th if the train is rolling the correct way..

Cleveland ****** homie you using Cleveland who went through 10 horrible years at minimum, i mean bottom feeder years now what they are the blueprint thats funny chit right there,, Jags had that for what 2-3 season then all fell apart again..

2 owners, 4gms ,an like 6 coaches to acquire talent using 2-3 1st round draft picks for 6 years straight that the new staff finally were able to come in and use..they have been as bad as we are this year for more then decade..the new coach didnt just come in and flip switch they were turning a corner the last 2 years and the new HC had a nice base to start out with and didnt lose 17 starters so far this season..
 
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sorry but neither had the injury list like ours its far and away devastating to any coach

blind fans needing something to feel good about writing around here..

if we were near 90% healthy and this happens again, sure but this season is flat out mulligan..so i say 3years minimum and 4th if the train is rolling the correct way..

Cleveland ****** homie you using Cleveland who went through 10 horrible years at minimum, i mean bottom feeder years now what they are the blueprint thats funny chit right there,, Jags had that for what 2-3 season then all fell apart again..

2 owners, 4gms ,an like 6 coaches to acquire talent using 2-3 1st round draft picks for 6 years straight that the new staff finally were able to come in and use..they have been as bad as we are this year for more then decade..the new coach didnt just come in and flip switch they were turning a corner the last 2 years and the new HC had a nice base to start out with and didnt lose 17 starters so far this season..
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Injury excuse. Great. Excuses. Tired of excuses every team has injuries.
 
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rocyaice said:
Injury excuse. Great. Excuses. Tired of excuses every team has injuries.
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this Year that amount to the positions they are in are 100% Valid..tired?? seriously?

of it its new staff with 7 game season so far , tired of what? Garett's gone..

this staff gets the time and frankly should et the benefit of the doubt given the short time they are here and have to purge and make adjusments

stop lumping whats gone on in the past and hang that on new staff..

be upset , be frustrate, but dude some of you are so phreaking emotional and the bs being thrown around here on what changes have to made including firings and trades that wont and cant happen are out of control..

its horrible season but there are valid reasons for it..
 
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Everyone here is so ready to jettison coaches while keeping the gutless players who were failures even before Nolan or McCarthy got here.
 
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rocyaice said:
Fire McCarthy if he does this against next season. It doesn't take 3-4 years in this league to start winning. Only sucky teams with new head coaches who are struggling are Commanders, Giants and Cowboys. Browns and Panthers are winning with new head coaches.
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It takes that long to draft and change the country club culture that’s been fostered. This team plays with the toughness of whipped cream.
 
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this Year that amount to the positions they are in are 100% Valid..tired?? seriously?

of it its new staff with 7 game season so far , tired of what? Garett's gone..

this staff gets the time and frankly should et the benefit of the doubt given the short time they are here and have to purge and make adjusments

stop lumping whats gone on in the past and hang that on new staff..

be upset , be frustrate, but dude some of you are so phreaking emotional and the bs being thrown around here on what changes have to made including firings and trades that wont and cant happen are out of control..

its horrible season but there are valid reasons for it..
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This team was losing when it was relatively healthy so the injury excuse ain't gonna fly. Dak was on a historic run and the defense was on a historic run too going the opposite direction. I don't want to hear it man. They just released all of their free agents from this year except Dalton and Dalton's play warrants being cut too. STOP making excuses for this crap.

I'm probably one of the biggest homers on this site. I make excuses for every player and hell even for Jerry at times. But I'm a big part of the problem as are you. Hold this franchise accountable. Losing Dak and losing games is one thing but they were losing even with Dak.
 
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This team was losing when it was relatively healthy so the injury excuse ain't gonna fly. Dak was on a historic run and the defense was on a historic run too going the opposite direction. I don't want to hear it man. They just released all of their free agents from this year except Dalton and Dalton's play warrants being cut too. STOP making excuses for this crap.

I'm probably one of the biggest homers on this site. I make excuses for every player and hell even for Jerry at times. But I'm a big part of the problem as are you. Hold this franchise accountable. Losing Dak and losing games is one thing but they were losing even with Dak.
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it could have got back on track had the inuires not kept snowballing AND THE tOS GOT IN CHECK

so good try,.,go look at texans they are pretty healthy and losing so are the jets..we are playing with our Preseason lineup so give the bs narratives break..its real valid reason for the lost season..100%

its one thing to lose the bookend tackles and try to cover them up but then Looney, martin, Knight, dak and then Dalton..thats just the offense many on defense either hurt of playing under expectations for the new schemes

NOT A Coaching issue AT THAT POINT..

so MM is not failure and Nolan can be fixed with players and some real thought on which schemes to run next year..no need for firings..

take some midol, grab nap, and stop being emotional..
 
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it could have got back on track had the inuires not kept snowballing AND THE tOS GOT IN CHECK

so good try,.,go look at texans they are pretty healthy and losing so are the jets..we are playing with our Preseason lineup so give the bs narratives break..its real valid reason for the lost season..100%

its one thing to lose the bookend tackles and try to cover them up but then Looney, martin, Knight, dak and then Dalton..thats just the offense many on defense either hurt of playing under expectations for the new schemes

NOT A Coaching issue AT THAT POINT..

so MM is not failure and Nolan can be fixed with players and some real thought on which schemes to run next year..no need for firings..

take some midol, grab nap, and stop being emotional..
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It could've got back on track.....they showed NO SIGNS of getting back on track so what makes you think they would've got back on track? So you are content with this product because "they could've got back on track"? This is a joke. They sucked prior to the injuries, they sucked last year and they will suck post injuries too. Mike Nolan has sucked his whole damn career. But the injuries are why he's sucking now even though his damn unit is relatively healthy?

And you can keep making this about emotion all you want but you should have some emotion rather than suck up this crappy organization. Instead you are content because you have given them a injury excuse.

So because the Texans suck means the Cowboys should suck too lol. Yikes. Misery loves company....the coaches suck. I'll give McCarthy a excuse because its year 1 and he at least has had some success int the past. Nolan has sucked. He's not just going to start being a good coach all of a sudden.
 
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