I got pulled off the Prescott fence

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I've seen the team with him and without him now and the team is far worse than I thought it could be.

I know they have to build around him as he is not going to carry the team but the foundation of a team usually starts with the OL but with this one it's the QB.

PAPPY, it's not as much about Dak Prescott as it is about the lack of ability of management to build a team. It's not a choice, Prescott is the best we're going to get. These people wanted Lynch and Cook, think about that. You are entrusting the assemblage of talent to mediocre talent evaluators.

They get lucky, they need to ride with that. They lucked into Romo and Prescott.

Being this bad is better than being stuck in mediocrity and paying a QB that ultimately can't get the results without a great team around him and not being able to provide that team to him because of the cap and the current bad contracts already on this team.

Teams like Arizona are going to dominate this league. They have elite QB's on rookie contracts. They will only get better.

Dallas.. We let top NFL corners walk and pay RB's 15 mill a year.

If you want mediocrity and maybe a division win and possibly 1 playoff win every 3 or 4 years by all means sign Dak.

If you want to win Championships you're better off being terrible and drafting a transcendent player.

Arizona is much closer than we are.

Buffalo is much closer than we are.

Ravens..

It wouldn't surprise me to see the Bengals making noise next year with Burrow or Chargers.

Chiefs got their Superbowl..



Or we could pay the guy who is good but not elite and ask him to somehow elevate the team and win in the post season.

We will pay him though and complain that other parts of the team aren't good enough and say football is a team sport while also applauding his contract.
 

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You are overlooking one little item. Who is going to rebuild this team with all those picks?

Does it do any good to rebuild with the original builder?

LittleD, many keep looking at the symptoms to diagnose the illness and overlook the cause.

You are right and it's sad that we are stuck for good with management. They own the team and can keep extracting the cash for years. Still we have to start over somewhere. New players and
coaches are all we can hope for with this franchise. Jerry is going to pass everything down to his kids.
 

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Yeah, I know, another Dak thread but I have been squarely on that fence with him for quite some time and was 50/50 on whether to keep him or go shopping but I underestimated one element of his game, the one that can't be argued here regardless of your opinion of him as a passer.

I've watched him since he was a junior and the one thing that was apparent was his leadership which is impressive when you consider he didn't win that job, he won the backup job. Then he comes to Dallas and becomes the starter form the 3rd QB position and immediately takes over as if he belonged there. Because in his mind, he has always belonged there. He accepts and fulfills the role of leadership as well as any player in the NFL.

My problem has been underestimating the value of leadership, I want that guy with the big arm too or a QB that plays like Mahomes, Rodgers or Wilson and I guess I can add Burrow, Herbert and Murray to that list.

But if I ever got a lesson on the real value of leadership, I had to look no further than the Cowboys when the heart, soul and fight of this team went down. The team went on life support when their leader went down.

I didn't get pushed off that fence, Dak pulled me off of it. That shot of him, tears in his eyes, about to lose it wasn't for himself, it was for the team that he would not be there to lead. He knew he was the only one to lead them back from deficits at half time and I have seen something I didn't think I would see since he retired. The Staubach Effect.

Roger had the Captain Comeback title because of a unique skill he had, he could make others believe. He didn't make those comebacks on his own, he lifted his team and they lifted him because of one simple fact, they believed. Dak Prescott has that.

I think the difference he makes is evident and easily identifiable. Gallup doesn't drop that pass if it's from Dak, Lamb doesn't have those drops if those passes are from him and even the defense plays harder because they believe he will not give up or give in.......as they unfortunately did, I don't think this talk of unrest even starts up if he is there.

Want to really appreciate someone or some thing? Lose them, even for a short period of time because only then do you see the picture without them in it. And this wasn't a really pretty picture with him in it but it is downright ugly now.

There is no longer any doubt about Dak Prescott in my mind, he is the man and I've never seen one team miss one player like this in all my years. He is worth whatever they have to pay him. What an oddity, Dak has increased his value through his absence.
good post
 

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They're actually similar in that they both need a good D and running game to succeed.

Love Dak for 25 mil. Hate him for 40 mil.
There are few that don't need that.

I look at it as the price for a franchise QB and not a comparison to other QB's that are not available or unproven at this level.

The other part of this is those not wanting to pay him in the top 5-10 area want to be able to spend more money on what?

Show me where paying any player less on this team has allowed them to fix anything.

We need to build a D, I agree. What the hell is the excuse for not building one already? In the last 20 years they haven't built one.

Whatever they have to pay him, that's the number and I've seen all the proof I need on that. I don't think these guys can build a true contender if they don't even have to pay the QB, they are inept and incompetent. They suck at player evaluation.
 

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shaking my head. he's a psychology major and knows what to say and do. Geez, get a grip. *kicks coach back over the fence*
 

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Yeah, I know, another Dak thread but I have been squarely on that fence with him for quite some time and was 50/50 on whether to keep him or go shopping but I underestimated one element of his game, the one that can't be argued here regardless of your opinion of him as a passer.

I've watched him since he was a junior and the one thing that was apparent was his leadership which is impressive when you consider he didn't win that job, he won the backup job. Then he comes to Dallas and becomes the starter form the 3rd QB position and immediately takes over as if he belonged there. Because in his mind, he has always belonged there. He accepts and fulfills the role of leadership as well as any player in the NFL.

My problem has been underestimating the value of leadership, I want that guy with the big arm too or a QB that plays like Mahomes, Rodgers or Wilson and I guess I can add Burrow, Herbert and Murray to that list.

But if I ever got a lesson on the real value of leadership, I had to look no further than the Cowboys when the heart, soul and fight of this team went down. The team went on life support when their leader went down.

I didn't get pushed off that fence, Dak pulled me off of it. That shot of him, tears in his eyes, about to lose it wasn't for himself, it was for the team that he would not be there to lead. He knew he was the only one to lead them back from deficits at half time and I have seen something I didn't think I would see since he retired. The Staubach Effect.

Roger had the Captain Comeback title because of a unique skill he had, he could make others believe. He didn't make those comebacks on his own, he lifted his team and they lifted him because of one simple fact, they believed. Dak Prescott has that.

I think the difference he makes is evident and easily identifiable. Gallup doesn't drop that pass if it's from Dak, Lamb doesn't have those drops if those passes are from him and even the defense plays harder because they believe he will not give up or give in.......as they unfortunately did, I don't think this talk of unrest even starts up if he is there.

Want to really appreciate someone or some thing? Lose them, even for a short period of time because only then do you see the picture without them in it. And this wasn't a really pretty picture with him in it but it is downright ugly now.

There is no longer any doubt about Dak Prescott in my mind, he is the man and I've never seen one team miss one player like this in all my years. He is worth whatever they have to pay him. What an oddity, Dak has increased his value through his absence.

Defense win Championships! Dak at this point is a luxury that the Cowboys can't afford. There are too money holes on this team to filled and a $100 plus million dollar contract isn't in the budget. Remember the Cap is going to drop in 2021, which is surely going to affect the Boys in a negative way. Start unloading players for whatever draft picks they can get. Hopefully these added picks will allow the Boys to locate and sign a few diamonds in the rough! Rookie contracts are a team's best friend..............
 

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Dan Orlosky has been saying all day that Dak might not want to be a Cowboy because of the disfunction. What an idiot, didn’t he see how Dak reacted when and after he was injured. He cried because he felt he was letting his brothers down and he did not flip them the bird like ET when he broke his leg with Seattle. This season can’t end fast enough.
 

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You sign Dak if you are in win now mode. Does anything about this team signal that they are ready to win anything right now?
 

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Yeah he’s a great leader . The Dak haters have a blind spot on that .
That being said he deserves to move on . He’ll destroy his career signing with this garbage team as long as Jerry’s ego hires coaches that can’t out shine him and never admits or corrects his mistakes . Jerry is the worst GM in the NFL and Dak needs to get as far away as possible .
 

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They're actually similar in that they both need a good D and running game to succeed.

Love Dak for 25 mil. Hate him for 40 mil.

i say 35 id go back to dak Non exclusive tag and offer his the exact deal as was nearly signed before the deadline..say this is what we have take it or leave it..Dak wont play under the FT he will threaten hold out and we trade him..

then what ? Lawerence will be gone..forget that,,

fields or that other kid does he play for Bisons or wherever wentz came from? do you take a first round qb if we are at 5/6 move up? use daks picks ?
 

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Salary cap space which helps the entire team and much much higher upside as a player.

Dak provides a high floor but he doesn't impose his will on other teams. We play to our opponents level.

Lawrence has Pat Mahomes type of upside. He could be the worst QB ever but the upside is tremendous.

Well they won’t be in position to get Lawrence so I’m not really thinking about him. Fans always talk cap space but teams have to spend it on someone. I prefer to pay the guys who perform and cut the guys who got paid and are under performing.
 
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