Plan going forward?

silver · Oct 28, 2020

Don't need to tank to get a top 5 overall pick. We are that bad. I would draft the best defensive player on the board. If that means trading down so that someone else pick one of the QB's so be it. We can come up with at least 3 starters on defense and one of them should be an impact player which we've lacked since Demarcus Ware left. Evaluate the players we currently have and part ways with the ones not buying into the new staff regardless of salary or draft investment.

exciter · Oct 28, 2020

kskboys said:
Debatable.

How many Chargers fans you figure would want to debate the fact they should have kept Drew Brees?

gongjr · Oct 28, 2020

Going forward, get the team to play fast with effort. If that happens I'd consider that a win coming from where we are currently.

kskboys · Oct 28, 2020

exciter said:
How many Chargers fans you figure would want to debate the fact they should have kept Drew Brees?

None.

However, you're going under the supposition that Dak is equal to Brees. Might be eventually, but isn't there yet.

How many Texans fans would want to debate the fact that they should've kept Brock Osweiler? How about Jamarcus Russell and the Raiders? How about Alex Smith and the 9ers? Kapernick and the 9ers?

Pointing to one example doesn't make necessarily make a parallel. Derek Anderson, Matt Schaub, Kirk Cousins. There's always a QB that puts the team in a quandry over whether to keep or not.

Is Dak top 5? Hard to say at this point. That's why it's debatable, not because one team one time regretted letting someone go.

cowboyblue22 · Oct 28, 2020

rocyaice said:
Yes because Trevor Lawrence will fix this lol. Dak threw for 30 touchdowns and and 5k yards and couldn't' fix it lol.

going to take way more than a qb to get this team over the hump

CowboysFaninHouston · Oct 28, 2020

Verdict said:
We are not going anywhere without Dak and no offensive line. After getting throttled by the Commanders, I expected us to play the young guys and regroup next season.

Then we traded Griffen for a pick, and I’m thinking “great, Jerry sees the value in playing the young guys, having a bad record and getting good draft picks.”

Next I hear Poe and Worley will be traded or cut, and I’m thinking “Jerry has seen that these guys suck, is cutting his losses, moving on, and playing the young guys”. I’m thinking good deal, we won’t get anything for them, but if so, good for Jerry”.

Next I hear we may be looking to trade for Fitzpatrick? Why in the hell would we do that? Surely it’s just “click bait”.

Play DiNucci, see what you have in him and take your lumps. If he starts a Dak streak, so be it. But where are we going in the playoffs without an OL or DL?

It only makes sense to trade for a player you plan on keeping longer term, and preferably a position of need. DL. Corner. Safety. OT.

I thought fitzpatrick trade rumors were just that rumors from some media pundit, trying to fill air time and attempting to put 2&2 together.

if Jerry is throwing in the towel, it would be utterly stupid to trade a pick for fitzpatrick, only to let him go next year, for a season that's going nowhere fast.

I would like to see the kid. he is going to get hit. he is going to be like a deer in the headlight, but if he shows a few plays, where he lets his instincts take over, we might like what we see. I like the daring throw he made to Cooper and the short pass. he was accurate and the ball had zip, although he should have led cooper on the throw, but hopefully he will learn....I like to see moore come up with a quick throw, 3 step drop passing game this week...perhaps lots of shot gun, get rid of the ball kind of game plan, and let WRs do the damage after the catch....and maybe maybe maybe a couple of deep shots

CWR · Oct 28, 2020

Verdict said:
We are not going anywhere without Dak and no offensive line. After getting throttled by the Commanders, I expected us to play the young guys and regroup next season.

Then we traded Griffen for a pick, and I’m thinking “great, Jerry sees the value in playing the young guys, having a bad record and getting good draft picks.”

Next I hear Poe and Worley will be traded or cut, and I’m thinking “Jerry has seen that these guys suck, is cutting his losses, moving on, and playing the young guys”. I’m thinking good deal, we won’t get anything for them, but if so, good for Jerry”.

Next I hear we may be looking to trade for Fitzpatrick? Why in the hell would we do that? Surely it’s just “click bait”.

Play DiNucci, see what you have in him and take your lumps. If he starts a Dak streak, so be it. But where are we going in the playoffs without an OL or DL?

It only makes sense to trade for a player you plan on keeping longer term, and preferably a position of need. DL. Corner. Safety. OT.

I dont believe that will happen but I had two opposing trains of thought with the latest roster moves.

One, we are cutting cap because they know we aren't going anywhere this year.

The other is these guys are being cut solely based on a lack of production and these moves do not signify any admission of a lost season.

While I dont believe we will go after Fitz it would not suprise me either. Jerry is the ever the optimist. They say he's selling snake oil, but he's not just a salesperson. He's a client too. Lol he believes it.

TheSkaven · Oct 28, 2020

The plan is to win the #1 pick this year. As fans, we grit our teeth every Sunday and hope for silver lining in every loss.

This offseason, we have a choice that will decide the future of the franchise.

Option 1: Draft Trevor Lawrence #1 overall and spend the rest of your picks and free agent moves on the offensive and defensive lines. Cut bait with some of the high priced veterans, I don’t care how big their cap hit is. Franchise Dak for one year while Lawrence learns and throw Dak to the wolves while the offensive line gels.

Option 2: Trade out of the #1 pick with a Hershel Walker style trade, netting picks that will become the foundation of the franchise for years to come. Sign Dak to a $38M per year contract. Use the picks on the offensive and defensive lines. Try to rehabilitate the veterans who are slacking. Go for the championship now.

CWR · Oct 28, 2020

silver said:
Don't need to tank to get a top 5 overall pick. We are that bad. I would draft the best defensive player on the board. If that means trading down so that someone else pick one of the QB's so be it. We can come up with at least 3 starters on defense and one of them should be an impact player which we've lacked since Demarcus Ware left. Evaluate the players we currently have and part ways with the ones not buying into the new staff regardless of salary or draft investment.

Thats a good point. There is no need to tank. Hell we could sign Fitz and get this offense back to 80% of what it was (for the sake of discussion,) and the defense would still flounder. Our defense is really that bad and none of the returning players can bridge that gap.

TheMarathonContinues · Oct 28, 2020

cowboyblue22 said:
going to take way more than a qb to get this team over the hump

I agree. And that's the thing about drafting a quarterback...you once again spend a 1st rounder on offense......ONCE AGAIN.

bewp7 · Oct 28, 2020

2 option...cowboys will keep losing so it is not like tanking is optional

1. get a top 2 pick and draft lawrence or fields and do a complite rebuild

2. get a top 2 pick and trade down and rebuilt the defense and OL

no matter what u have to hope and pray the cowboys can get a top 2 pick some how.

jazzcat22 · Oct 28, 2020

exciter said:
And that should be what he does. If they’re not willing to pay Dak the money he deserves after developing into a top 5 QB, then what would make them want to pay Lawrence after 5 years of developing. Why would Lawrence or any other highly rated QB want to play here knowing your not going to get justly compensated for your ability. Anyone would be stupid not to hold out and renter the draft the following year!

that would be dumb of any player to be that way. 5 years is a long way off. And if you bring the team a SB within that 5 years, heck yes they will pay just like Mahomes got paid.
A player can’t look at what is going on with Dak as to want to play, especially if you are drafted by that team.

SSoup · Oct 28, 2020

Hennessy_King said:
I don't think you guys realize how many #1 overall qb picks aren't that good

This is the crowd who doesn't particularly care if the QB play will be worse if it's not Dak, just as long as it's not Dak anymore. Because they have a blindspot for Dak and don't see anything good. They thought Cooper Rush should've replaced him in 2017. They thought Mike White should've replaced him in 2018. They got rock-hard when they found out Dalton would get a chance to take over and prove anybody could do what Dak does with this offense, and then they pretended not to see it when Dalton played so poorly and disproved their theory. They were distracted by a squirrel or a bumblebee or something when Dalton proved just how wrong they were all along.

None of the last five quarterbacks picked first overall in the draft is any better than Dak yet. But they assume the next one will be automatically by a wide margin, somehow. Has to be. And, for people who have made up their minds anyone other than Dak is an upgrade, they'll be happy with the decision even if the replacement is terrible.

Hawkeye0202 · Oct 28, 2020

Hennessy_King said:
I don't think you guys realize how many #1 overall qb picks aren't that good

+1 ....there was a tweet showing all QB- ratings for QBs taken first overall in the draft last 15 or 20 years ( not sure which one ) for their first 4 seasons.......only ONE had a better rating than Dak. So you are exactly right ........drafting a QB with first or even 2nd even isn't guaranteeing what some may think. Hell, look the today's top QBs ( Mahome, Watson, Jackson, Wilson, etc) and where they were drafted.

TwentyOne · Oct 28, 2020

Verdict said:
We are not going anywhere without Dak and no offensive line. After getting throttled by the Commanders, I expected us to play the young guys and regroup next season.

Then we traded Griffen for a pick, and I’m thinking “great, Jerry sees the value in playing the young guys, having a bad record and getting good draft picks.”

Next I hear Poe and Worley will be traded or cut, and I’m thinking “Jerry has seen that these guys suck, is cutting his losses, moving on, and playing the young guys”. I’m thinking good deal, we won’t get anything for them, but if so, good for Jerry”.

Next I hear we may be looking to trade for Fitzpatrick? Why in the hell would we do that? Surely it’s just “click bait”.

Play DiNucci, see what you have in him and take your lumps. If he starts a Dak streak, so be it. But where are we going in the playoffs without an OL or DL?

It only makes sense to trade for a player you plan on keeping longer term, and preferably a position of need. DL. Corner. Safety. OT.

Yoz are a guy who thinks JJ has a plan or even is able to think a rational thought?

Well.....

Keep it up, way up.

exciter · Oct 28, 2020

kskboys said:
None.

However, you're going under the supposition that Dak is equal to Brees. Might be eventually, but isn't there yet.

How many Texans fans would want to debate the fact that they should've kept Brock Osweiler? How about Jamarcus Russell and the Raiders? How about Alex Smith and the 9ers? Kapernick and the 9ers?

Pointing to one example doesn't make necessarily make a parallel. Derek Anderson, Matt Schaub, Kirk Cousins. There's always a QB that puts the team in a quandry over whether to keep or not.

Is Dak top 5? Hard to say at this point. That's why it's debatable, not because one team one time regretted letting someone go.

Went to school with quite a few Texans fans, not one would make that argument. I can’t see too many fans making that argument for the others mentioned. Russell really? As of now you would be hard pressed to say Dak isn’t pushing at least top 10, especially after seeing the last 2 weeks. From what I’ve seen Lawrence’s ceiling is about Matt Ryan or Rivers he’s good but not so good that he isn’t going to need a supporting cast, just like Dak, he just doesn’t strike me as having the football IQ of P Manning, Brees or Brady that can consistently make a lesser team better. And after 5 years he going to want to get paid, even if he hasn’t won a SB!

big dog cowboy · Oct 28, 2020

The plan going forward is to do everything possible now to prepare for next season.

conner01 · Oct 28, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Plan going forward.

Cheer for the Jets..

Hope the Cowboys lose every game..

Draft Trevor Lawrence..

Profit..

If we do get the top pick you have to take Lawrence
I don’t see that happening but you never know
Most likely I see top 5-7
If that’s the case I extend Dak and build a defense
And for this year I keep moving guys that I can
After the season I move on from jaylon and I don’t extend LVE
I extend Gallup after this season and after when I can I move on from Cooper
I think cutting Poe, Worley and trading griffin sends a good message
Not that we are tanking but that we are looking for players who want to win and show up every week

garyo1954 · Oct 28, 2020

jsb357 said:
the dude has long hair but he ain't Jesus.

behind this line he'll be toast

burnt toast

Same with any QB, doesn't make any difference if the name is Fitzpatrick or DiNucci or Mickey Freaking Mouse! Name might as well be mud, death, and "collect on my injury policy now" the way this Oline is playing.

CWR · Oct 28, 2020

SSoup said:
This is the crowd who doesn't particularly care if the QB play will be worse if it's not Dak, just as long as it's not Dak anymore. Because they have a blindspot for Dak and don't see anything good. They thought Cooper Rush should've replaced him in 2017. They thought Mike White should've replaced him in 2018. They got rock-hard when they found out Dalton would get a chance to take over and prove anybody could do what Dak does with this offense, and then they pretended not to see it when Dalton played so poorly and disproved their theory. They were distracted by a squirrel or a bumblebee or something when Dalton proved just how wrong they were all along.

None of the last five quarterbacks picked first overall in the draft is any better than Dak yet. But they assume the next one will be automatically by a wide margin, somehow. Has to be. And, for people who have made up their minds anyone other than Dak is an upgrade, they'll be happy with the decision even if the replacement is terrible.

Letting Dak go would be a monumental gamble. If they were to do that they may as well scrap everything and start from the beginning. I understand the cap limitations but Daks salary isn't the problem. The problem is the over rated, selfish players we chose to re-sign. They are what is killing this team period.

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