Would Cowboys trade Amari Cooper?

dsturgeon

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No way you trade cooper. You trade gallup if you can not afford to sign him, but not cooper. Cooper and lamb are signed and secured. Lamb and Gallup is not what Cooper Lamb is
 

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Except Amari has a contract that is basically that contract and is a far worse player. There is NO GM who would keep his job after offering a 1st for Amari. I cant see any decent team offering a 2nd. MAYBE you get a 3rd from a winning team so a low 3rd but that is about his value right now.

That contract he signed was a MASSIVE outlier in terms of WR contracts. On the open market he probably gets about 15m a year considering the WR class last year and this year. There is no sound reason to try to trade for a big money WR (especially when most of the competitive teams do not really have space to do so anyway).
Don't disagree. However, there's often a team that will suprise you.
 

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Don't disagree. However, there's often a team that will suprise you.

You are a defensive guy. Even if you got a 2 for cooper, you know you will not fix the defense with that pick. Why trade your biggest threat on offense, that has completely elevated dak's game since he got here, for a shot in the dark?
 

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I just OTC on the Ravens and they have less than a million in cap space and next year have a LOT of contracts to pay out (their LT who is going to be a 20m dollar player, their TE who is going to be a 15m player, and they may try to sign LJ early), so I have no clue why they would suddenly have the cap space to drop 20m on a WR.

I was just looking for teams with SB potential and had enough cap room as is for 2021 for a 20mil cap hit.
But yea, with re-signings they have they are unlikely too.

Although0 they could cut Marcus Peters and Ingram which should free up some room. And if they can win the grievance with Thomas that'll give them 10mil more.
 

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You are a defensive guy. Even if you got a 2 for cooper, you know you will not fix the defense with that pick. Why trade your biggest threat on offense, that has completely elevated dak's game since he got here, for a shot in the dark?
Because I don't believe he'll be around by the time we are good again.
 

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Because I don't believe he'll be around by the time we are good again.

Dak, Jarwin, Tyron, Collins are all coming back next year. Gallup is here for 1 more year on his rookie contract. Dak was on pace to set record numbers. Even though is didn't translate to wins at the start of the year, had there not been injuries, it would have improved by the end.

You don't think cowboys can get a competent defense through the draft next year to get them at least mid range?

You could win a superbowl with a mid range defense, and a top tier offense, especially if playing with a lead, and allowing the defense to take risks
 

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I was just looking for teams with SB potential and had enough cap room as is for 2021 for a 20mil cap hit.
But yea, with re-signings they have they are unlikely too.

Although0 they could cut Marcus Peters and Ingram which should free up some room. And if they can win the grievance with Thomas that'll give them 10mil more.

I live in Maryland so I get to see them and I can tell you Ingram is probably cut (they drafted his replaced last year in the 2nd), but Peters is not. For those who are curious how the Ravens have the NFLs top defense its a very simple formula: they built an elite cover secondary headlined by a top 3 CB in Humphrey and a top 10 CB in Peters and trusting them to cover their people they know they can blitz all they want and trust their people to hold up in coverage. To cut Peters is to blow up their entire defensive scheme.

The Ravens have a bunch of paydays coming (like I said their premier LT is going to be getting 20m per year minimum even if they just tag him twice), the Chiefs are already leveraged up, the Saints are basically going to be going into cost cutting mode soon, the Seahawks are loaded up at WR and the same is true of the Bucs and the Packers just seem to let Rodgers make scrubs into pro bowlers. Then going to the tier 2 you have the Browns who already have WRs who are getting paid, the Bengals who you can say the same thing about, the Steelers will probably draft an all pro WR in the 3rd round if they need one, the Rams have no real picks or cap space to speak of, the 49ers are in a similar boat but also have solid WR play, and the Cardinals just got Hopkins. I think I got just about every single half-decent NFL team this year and they just do not need a WR right now or cannot afford one if they could.
 

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He was on the sidelines on the biggest play of the year in Philly last season. He's a beta, talented but a beta.
True. But better teammates, coaching, would make Cooper an alpha.
 

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Dak, Jarwin, Tyron, Collins are all coming back next year. Gallup is here for 1 more year on his rookie contract. Dak was on pace to set record numbers. Even though is didn't translate to wins at the start of the year, had there not been injuries, it would have improved by the end.

You don't think cowboys can get a competent defense through the draft next year to get them at least mid range?

You could win a superbowl with a mid range defense, and a top tier offense, especially if playing with a lead, and allowing the defense to take risks
No, I don't.
 

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No, I don't.

Fair enough, but that second won't have anywhere near the value of cooper.

If they are trading high powered offensive weapons, it should be zeke, not cooper

Cowboys are not lacking draft picks
 

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From PFT, I thought this might make for some good conversation and debate:

The Cowboys seem to be in fire sale mode, particularly in the midst of a “this is fine” fire on the defensive side of the ball. Here’s the question: Would they trade offensive players, too?

There’s one name to wonder about as the trade deadline approaches, in our view. Receiver Amari Cooper.

Yes, the Cowboys gave up a first-round pick to get him two years ago. Yes, they gave him a new contract after the 2019 season ended.

But consider these facts. First, CeeDee Lamb fell into their laps after Cooper re-signed. Second, Michael Gallup is signed through 2021 to a bargain-basement rookie deal. Third, Cedrick Wilson is pretty damn good. Fourth, with Dak gone for the rest of the season, Cooper becomes a luxury the Cowboys don’t need.

Even though Cooper signed a five-year, $100 million contract, it’s really a two-year, $40 million deal. If someone would offer them a first-rounder for Cooper right now (last year, Mohamed Sanu brought in a second-round pick at the deadline), the Cowboys would be crazy to say no.

“But what about the cap consequences?” you may ask. Trading Cooper would trigger an $8 million charge in 2021, but it would be offset by avoiding $20 million in cash and cap space — creating a $12 million net-cap gain for the Cowboys in 2021.

So any contending team out there looking for a high-end receiver (like the Packers), the window could be open to snatch Cooper from the Cowboys.


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/28/would-cowboys-trade-amari-cooper/
Yeah if they’re dumb. He’s the most consistent receiver.
 

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Coop turned down more money to be here so I would feel bad for the guy but i would definitely have to consider it if i were calling the shots.
 

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Coop turned down more money to be here so I would feel bad for the guy but i would definitely have to consider it if i were calling the shots.

I don't get it. Dak was trash before Cooper got here. Even in and out of injury, Cooper has been top notch. Lamb and Gallup can not carry the load without Cooper
 

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Absolutely. A lot of us have been saying this. Packers, Dolphins, and Browns are realistic trade partners.
 

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Fair enough, but that second won't have anywhere near the value of cooper.

If they are trading high powered offensive weapons, it should be zeke, not cooper

Cowboys are not lacking draft picks
Offhand, I'd say we're 3 years away, but only if we can get some talent on D.

Depends if we remain stupid. Chris Jones was a 2nd rounder. Our 2nd round drafting sucks because Jerry is doing it.
 

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Offhand, I'd say we're 3 years away, but only if we can get some talent on D.

Depends if we remain stupid. Chris Jones was a 2nd rounder. Our 2nd round drafting sucks because Jerry is doing it.

Even though Gregory might perform now, no more taking injured players like gregory and smith. They need to take good 2nd round picks
 

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Let’s see how Gallup, Lamb and Wilson get by the end of the year. If you get Coop involved early he has good games. If you don’t then he gets disinterested. Lol.
 

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Let’s see how Gallup, Lamb and Wilson get by the end of the year. If you get Coop involved early he has good games. If you don’t then he gets disinterested. Lol.

Who cares what coop looks like, his routes are good. Evaluating Gallup and Lamb with Coop, is a lot different than evaluating them without coop
 

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I'd get rid of Cooper in a heartbeat. I never thought we should have given up a first-round pick for him anyway.
If we could, er, re-COOP a second for him, I'm sealing the deal before the interested team finishes its sentence.

I'd get rid of Zeke if we could. We're not going anywhere with him. Let's stop kidding ourselves. Tear down this team. Rebuild the offensive line and defensive line and become a power run team but one with weapons on the outside in case we need to engage in a shoot-out.
 

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I'd get rid of Cooper in a heartbeat. I never thought we should have given up a first-round pick for him anyway.
If we could, er, re-COOP a second for him, I'm sealing the deal before the interested team finishes its sentence.

I'd get rid of Zeke if we could. We're not going anywhere with him. Let's stop kidding ourselves. Tear down this team. Rebuild the offensive line and defensive line and become a power run team but one with weapons on the outside in case we need to engage in a shoot-out.

The offensive line does not need a rebuild. If there is a good player take him, but aside from injury I think they will be decent next year. Rebuild is not the right word

The defensive line does not need a rebuild. You have Dlaw and Gregory as your ends that it a good combo. Plus some guys behind them that could step up. Rebuild is not the right word
 
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