Do you despise Jerry Jones?

kskboys · Oct 28, 2020

OmerV said:
I don't know that he actually said he was a bad GM - I think what he said was that if he had another GM he would have fired him. I know that's a pretty fine distinction, but it leaves room for him to believe that he might have grown impatient with another guy, but that in his case he believes some things weren't his fault and that the results are going to get better.

He said he'd have been fired if he were GM of any other franchise. That is, indeed, admitting he's a bad GM.

Diehardblues · Oct 28, 2020

OmerV said:
I don't know that he actually said he was a bad GM - I think what he said was that if he had another GM he would have fired him. I know that's a pretty fine distinction, but it leaves room for him to believe that he might have grown impatient with another guy, but that in his case he believes some things weren't his fault and that the results are going to get better.

You’re right. That’s exactly what he said that he’d of fired a GM with his record.

The point is he acknowledged the results but it doesn’t deter him. Interpret that how you will.

The bottomline is he realizes he’s part of the problem but it doesn’t matter.

Established1971 · Oct 28, 2020

kskboys said:
There are a number of people on these boards who could've done a much much better job than Jones over the last 25 years. Amazing that you don't see it.

A guy who wants to win does whatever it takes to get a super bowl contender together. Jerry does not. Which means winning is not at the top for him.

amazing that I dont see that? Hmmm wild guess here, you think you are one of those people, right?

sacase · Oct 28, 2020

Nope I love him as our owner.

kskboys · Oct 28, 2020

Established1971 said:
amazing that I dont see that? Hmmm wild guess here, you think you are one of those people, right?

Possibly. It wouldn't take much. There's a ton of info out there on draft prospects if one wants to take the time to sift through it. Thing is, Jerry's been such a bad GM, it would be easy to be better. Not great, better.

It is absolutely amazing that anyone doesn't see it. Of course, I used to have the same view on this as you. The 09 draft, and then watching people on the boards consistently name the players they'd have taken predraft, and those players turning out to be better than what we took made me step back and take a look. Jerry has so many odd draft picks that it's easy to outdraft him.

OGCowboy · Oct 28, 2020

I like JJ for his ability to make money...
His ability as a GM is nonexistent....

Corso · Oct 28, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Cowboys are like Walmart, McDonalds and Bud Lt.

Iconic brands which are #1 in industry while not delivering the best product. Americans love popular brands regardless of their quality.

One of the greatest things to happen to this team, money-wise, was being labeled "America's Team".

OmerV · Oct 28, 2020

kskboys said:
He said he'd have been fired if he were GM of any other franchise. That is, indeed, admitting he's a bad GM.

I still don't think that is the same as saying he is bad because saying he would have been fired isn't identical to saying he should have been fired. It leaves room for the idea that he would have been fired because that's just the standard way NFL GMs handle things.

Diehardblues · Oct 28, 2020

Corso said:
One of the greatest things to happen to this team, money-wise, was being labeled "America's Team".

Yea, Tex embraced it for monetary reasons of course but Landry despised it knowing it would place a target on their backs.

Tex was much like Jerry when it came to publicity and promotions but he left football matters to Tom.

blueblood70 · Oct 28, 2020

Corso · Oct 28, 2020

Diehardblues said:
Yea, Tex embraced it for monetary reasons of course but Landry despised it knowing it would place a target on their backs.

Jerry rides that bull like it owes him life.
And peeps buy the hats, the jackets, the jerseys...

It's a wave you either ride, or press your ship up that crest and wish for the best while knowing what's at the other end.

Wapp5200 · Oct 28, 2020

Hennessy_King said:
Yes. If he dropped dead tomorrow i would be like o well and move on.

He should leave the running of the team to people who know what there doing. He needs to sit and watch, period!!!!

Diehardblues · Oct 28, 2020

Jerry could have been a great owner if he would have brought in the greatest football guys. Similar to what he did initially with Jimmy.

But that’s never been enough for him. He bought the team to become a football celebrity playing out his passions since he left Arkansas. The revenue streams has just enabled him to continue his ways without financial consequences.

That’s what bothered him with the success he had with Jimmy. Because Jimmy became more of the face of the Cowboys receiving more credit than him. Jerry’s not interested in winning if he’s not front and center. He’s not taking a back seat to anyone.

Section446 · Oct 28, 2020

Nope, we're the idiots that keep putting money in his pockets. If he was struggling, there's be changes.

Redsfan_83 · Oct 28, 2020

kskboys said:
He knows he's a bad GM and has stated so. How in the world do you see that as wanting to win?

Why is he still in the limelight if he doesn't want to win? He can sell the team for Billions and call it a day. The man has his skeletons but wanting to win a ring is not one of them. His ego, 245 offspring are what's holding him back, not his passion to win..if he didn't want to win why would he spend money like he does? Just because it's not spent properly doesn't prove what you are suggesting. Daniel Snyder would love to win one but he's more clueless than Jerry is and has an organization much much worse off than ours

Bobhaze · Oct 28, 2020

Redsfan_83 said:
There isn't an owner in pro sports who wants to win more than him...problem is he has no idea how to do this

There are a bunch that want to win more than him. The owners of the last 24 super bowl winners wanted to win bad enough to hire to hire a football person to run the organization. Apparently Jerry doesn’t want to win as bad as they do.

bigE79 · Oct 28, 2020

Whyjerry said:
Curious to get other’s takes. In the beginning I loved Jerry Jones. He was brash. He hired Jimmy Johnson. He acted like he would do anything to win. Firing Jimmy was the beginning of my hate for the guy. He seemed like a complete narcissist. A string of bad hirings and the franchise was in the toilet. I started to feel better with the Parcells hiring. I thought Jerry may have learned his lesson and was back to being serious. We now know that was a publicity stunt to get his stadium built. His hubris really took off. I hated the Garrett hire. It made no sense. The guy hadn’t exhibited anything that would suggest he would be a great HC. Jerry jammed Garrett and his nonsense down fans throats for 10 years. I liked the McCarthy hire but he wouldn’t have been my first choice. I wanted a lunatic taskmaster like Meyer to shake this lazy culture up. Now it seems like the place is finally imploding. I pity Mike McCarthy. This is not his fault.

I do not differentiate between Jerry the GM and Jerry the owner. The are codependent and both suck. I also don’t buy the Jerry is a nice guy bit.

Count me in the I despise Jerry group.

Where are you guys?

On a personal level,no.

FVSTONE · Oct 28, 2020

Whyjerry said:
Curious to get other’s takes. In the beginning I loved Jerry Jones. He was brash. He hired Jimmy Johnson. He acted like he would do anything to win. Firing Jimmy was the beginning of my hate for the guy. He seemed like a complete narcissist. A string of bad hirings and the franchise was in the toilet. I started to feel better with the Parcells hiring. I thought Jerry may have learned his lesson and was back to being serious. We now know that was a publicity stunt to get his stadium built. His hubris really took off. I hated the Garrett hire. It made no sense. The guy hadn’t exhibited anything that would suggest he would be a great HC. Jerry jammed Garrett and his nonsense down fans throats for 10 years. I liked the McCarthy hire but he wouldn’t have been my first choice. I wanted a lunatic taskmaster like Meyer to shake this lazy culture up. Now it seems like the place is finally imploding. I pity Mike McCarthy. This is not his fault.

I do not differentiate between Jerry the GM and Jerry the owner. The are codependent and both suck. I also don’t buy the Jerry is a nice guy bit.

Count me in the I despise Jerry group.

Where are you guys?

Nope, not at all.

kskboys · Oct 28, 2020

OmerV said:
I still don't think that is the same as saying he is bad because saying he would have been fired isn't identical to saying he should have been fired. It leaves room for the idea that he would have been fired because that's just the standard way NFL GMs handle things.

That appears to me as if you're seeing it the way you want to, because declaring that anyone else would've fired him as GM is a very clear statement that he's not good as GM.

kskboys · Oct 28, 2020

Redsfan_83 said:
Why is he still in the limelight if he doesn't want to win? He can sell the team for Billions and call it a day. The man has his skeletons but wanting to win a ring is not one of them. His ego, 245 offspring are what's holding him back, not his passion to win..if he didn't want to win why would he spend money like he does? Just because it's not spent properly doesn't prove what you are suggesting. Daniel Snyder would love to win one but he's more clueless than Jerry is and has an organization much much worse off than ours

If he wanted to win he wouldn't insist on having a terrible GM. He doesn't want a ring, he wants to be known as the guy who got the ring.

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