Who are we competing with?

Redsfan_83 · Oct 29, 2020

dckid said:
I am a fan for life. Nothing fake about my passion for this team. I can see through the BS that has been sold to us for 25 years.
You believe winning 5-6 games is useful. We need to hit rock bottom accumulate assets and get better.

we've been very close to being there, lol...nothing to show for it unfortunately

dckid · Oct 29, 2020

BigTimeBlues said:
Also, don't count out the Broncos. I wouldn't put it passed Elway to try and save his job with a QB trade.

So, as we sit here right now, I'm thinking it's going to be the Jets at #1, Jags at #2, and a toss up between the Broncos and the Cowboys at #3.

Yeah man.. we have to get that 2nd spot minimum because both the Jets and Jags will draft QB

BigTimeBlues · Oct 29, 2020

dckid said:
Yeah man.. we have to get that 2nd spot minimum because both the Jets and Jags will draft QB

The Jags were very competitive against the Titans in their first game, so I find it hard to believe that theu can't pick up a win against the Texans, Browns, Vikes or Bears.

OmerV · Oct 29, 2020

dckid said:
Man I hear what you are saying.. What's that saying.. you miss all the shots you don't take.
I would love to be in the catbird seat vs picking @ 11 and looking at paying Dak 40 per year.
Paying Dak with the state of this team is utterly idiotic. Beyond stupid. Flushing the next 5 years down the toilet.
Is our goal to become the Vikings?

I'm just saying a team has to be careful with the shots they take. If they aren't truly convinced of Lawrence, they shouldn't take the shot just because there are others that feel differently. When a team takes those shots they have to make them count or it can set them back.

dckid · Oct 29, 2020

BigTimeBlues said:
The Jags were very competitive against the Titans in their first game, so I find it hard to believe that theu can't pick up a win against the Texans, Browns, Vikes or Bears.

yeap

Fastpitch Dad · Oct 29, 2020

I know it's not a popular opinion around here, but I still think this team wins 5-6 games to but us right out of a real chipper.

Doesn't seem probable right now, but I think they go on a ,500 streak at some point.

Believe me, I hope I'm wrong, and that's not an unusual.

kskboys · Oct 29, 2020

Fastpitch Dad said:
I know it's not a popular opinion around here, but I still think this team wins 5-6 games to but us right out of a real chipper.

Doesn't seem probable right now, but I think they go on a ,500 streak at some point.

Believe me, I hope I'm wrong, and that's not an unusual.

I feel the same dread.

That's why I'm hoping Nolan doesn't lose his job, and stupid Jerry doesn't trade for talented players.

kskboys · Oct 29, 2020

dckid said:
Yeah man.. we have to get that 2nd spot minimum because both the Jets and Jags will draft QB

They're saying Trey Lance is also in the convo of top QB prospects.

Whyjerry · Oct 29, 2020

dckid said:
Where do you get that from?

2-14 might not earn the top pick. You see the Jets winning 2 games? You see Jacksonville Winn more than 2 games? You see Dallas losing out?

dckid · Oct 29, 2020

kskboys said:
They're saying Trey Lance is also in the convo of top QB prospects.

I really do hope we can end up with a high caliber rookie QB.
In the middle of last year, everyone was on Tua, before Herbert or Burrow. I am sure all three teams are happy so far.

Jake · Oct 29, 2020

BotchedLobotomy said:
The amount of fake fans rooting against this team is astounding.

Funny thing is, and I do not expect this to happen, if DiNucci came out and lit up the Eagles we would have some very disappointed "fans" here. Even if DiNucci played well the entire rest of the season and the Cowboys were winning games - again, don't expect this to happen - they'd be unhappy because their pet cat (Clemson Barbie) would be out of the picture.

conner01 · Oct 29, 2020

jsb357 said:
with Jones & Co making the draft selections?

That’s not changing
But overall they’ve done a solid job of drafting compared to other teams
It’s easy to see mistakes but all GM’s make them
The higher you pick the less likely a mistake is
And the more picks you have the better odds of getting good players

Jipper · Oct 29, 2020

BotchedLobotomy said:
The amount of fake fans rooting against this team is astounding.

is it rooting against if the outcome will actually lift the team in the long term?

Look i get it, and ive always been one to say as long as you have a chance at playoffs then keep fighting....but this team quit weeks ago and that is something i have not ever said in the 30+ years i have activly been watching this team.

I am ok with hoping for them to lose now, get the best draft position the can for next year, cut the quitters and give MM or the new HC the opportunity to build the team around the core of very talented guys.

but hey, i hear what you are saying and would have been saying the same thing every other year....but this is not something ive ever seen.

dckid · Oct 29, 2020

conner01 said:
That’s not changing
But overall they’ve done a solid job of drafting compared to other teams
It’s easy to see mistakes but all GM’s make them
The higher you pick the less likely a mistake is
And the more picks you have the better odds of getting good players

Well said! Increase your opportunity for success.

kskboys · Oct 29, 2020

BigTimeBlues said:
CC, that Houston pick belongs to MIA for the Tunsil trade I believe.

And their 2nd for Kenny Stills. Houston's draft starts in the 3rd. Unless they trade off Fuller to GB.

kskboys · Oct 29, 2020

BotchedLobotomy said:
The amount of fake fans rooting against this team is astounding.

BotchedLobotomy said:
I have expectationions that are not that great based on the reality of the situation, maybe 5 wins at best, but you can be sure I am rooting for this team to win every time they step on the field. Your original post is actively rooting for the team to lose no matter how you word it, that is 100% wrong in my book. Low expectations and rooting against your team are not the same thing.

Well, yaknow Splotchy, maybe it's not your business to decide how one exerts his fanhood. Maybe you're a fake fan for not wanting to compete for super bowls in the future. Maybe you're a fake fan for not wanting what is best for the team.

BigTimeBlues · Oct 29, 2020

kskboys said:
And their 2nd for Kenny Stills. Houston's draft starts in the 3rd. Unless they trade off Fuller to GB.

Yeah, BoB really screwed the pooch with that lot.

CATCH17 · Oct 29, 2020

kskboys said:
They're saying Trey Lance is also in the convo of top QB prospects.

He really needed to play more.

To me he's got some nice wheels but his mechanics need a lot of work.

I really want to get hyped up for Justin Fields but so far I can't.

I think Fields is Dak Prescott with better wheels. Nothing wrong with that at all but I just want better.

He stares WR's down and his situation is so optimal that it feels like i'm watching 7 on 7 football. I'd like to see him play against more resistance. See what he looks like under pressure.

Kyle Trask has impressed me but his athleticism is similar to Stafford. I'd like more athleticism than that.

What I want is Staffords arm in Trey Lances body.. Which is Mahomes/Lawrence/Herbert types.

TheCoolFan · Oct 29, 2020

Minshew is hurt so the Jags are done. They might have been done already with him anyway. Congrats to them and the Jets

BigTimeBlues · Oct 29, 2020

TheCoolFan said:
Minshew is hurt so the Jags are done. They might have been done already with him anyway. Congrats to them and the Jets

Oh wow. I missed that. Yeah then the first two picks are essentially locked in.

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