Who are we competing with?

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Minshew is hurt so the Jags are done. They might have been done already with him anyway. Congrats to them and the Jets
Yeah, Minshew is just so obviously a backup type. These types almost always get hyped up when they are better than a previous trashy QB, but then get exposed w/ more playing time. Minshew = Trevor Siemien = Kyle Allen. All the same type. Foles prolly belongs in that group. He's sure stinking it up w/ CHI after a hot start.
 

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Yahoo Sports initial Mock draft has us picking 8, behind the Jets, Giants, Jags, Falcons, Dophins, Vikings and Bengals. I think the Vikings and Falcons are going to win a few games before the season is over. The Cowboys play the Vikings and Bengals this year. With Dak out for the year, if this defense does not get much better, I do not see the Cowboys winning any more games. The offense is not capable of scoring 30 points without Dak, even in garbage time.

So you don't have to waste time finding and reading their draft they have the Cowboys taking a CB in the 1st round, Caleb Farley of Virginia Tech, who I believe opted out of playing this season. They have no DTs going in the first round. If it works out this way the Cowboys would be stupid to pass on Micah Parsons LB Penn State who goes 12th in this mock.

Here are their remaining opponents in order: Eagles, Steelers, Vikings, WFT, Ravens, Bengals, 49ers, Eagles, Giants. They barely beat the Giants with Dak. Even the Bengals are going to put 35 points up on the Cowboys defense. There are no wins left on this schedule unless there is big improvement on the Cowboys defense, and I mean BIG improvement. I don't see it happening. But, it's the Cowboys so them beating the Steelers would not surprise me either. And it would not shock me for them to win the all out tank bowl the last game of the season against the Giants. 4 wins max but most likely 3 unless the Giants decide not to tank the last game. I think they Giants already have their eyes on Penei Sewell OT Oregon and don't want to miss out on him.

As much as I think the Cowboys need defense, this is not a good draft for DTs. If they are up their in the top 2 or 3 and Sewell is on the board, I would take him. He can play inside replacing Connor Williams and them move out to LT if Smith gets hurt or retires. He is a cornerstone player. But trading down and pickng up another 2 is find by me too, as long as they stay in a position to take an impact player.
 

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I feel the same dread.

That's why I'm hoping Nolan doesn't lose his job, and stupid Jerry doesn't trade for talented players.
Agree. I wish we could hire Adam Gase to this coaching staff. It would increase our chances for staying at 2 wins.
 

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I think we’ll finish last in the East....the Giants will put together some wins before seasons end and I think they’ll beat us in NY. The Falcons, Jags and Jets are locks for the top 5 and probably the Bengals. I think we’ll end up with the 5th or 6th pick
 

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Well, yaknow Splotchy, maybe it's not your business to decide how one exerts his fanhood. Maybe you're a fake fan for not wanting to compete for super bowls in the future. Maybe you're a fake fan for not wanting what is best for the team.
It's quite interesting to see someone calling me a fake fan for calling someone out as a fake fan for rooting against the Cowboys. It's a strange world we live in these days.
 

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It's quite interesting to see someone calling me a fake fan for calling someone out as a fake fan for rooting against the Cowboys. It's a strange world we live in these days.
What's even worse is someone stooping to the level of childish insults. Examine your conduct and you'll see the strangeness is caused by those like you.

Would you rather have Chase Young or K'Lavon Chaisson on our team? Think hard about that.
 

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:facepalm:

The amount of fake fans rooting against this team is astounding.
I know fake fans... they post on social media after every loss stuff like this “ lose or win dc4l “ we’ll get them next week” blah blah blah they don’t even know the players on the roster but sure are hopeful, jolly and happy..

The best thing for the team is to lose... if you can’t see the logic in that then I have no idea what to tell you.
 

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I dont see us getting better then the 5th pick
Houston and jags play each other
Cincy and wash play
Dallas plays minny
NYG plays Cincy
Dallas play Cincy
Cincy n Houston
Of course we play wash again
The Jets i just dont see another winnable game for them but you never know
chargers
denver
NE
Dallas
all have 2 wins

Houston
Cincy
Jack
All have 1 win
 

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I really dont think anyone wants to root for the Cowboys to lose here, they're very capable of doing it by themselves.
 

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They are also competing against any other team that might be willing to trade the draft as Snyder did for Griffin and Ditka did for Williams.

If CIN or HOU gets that top spot, they're looking to make a haul because they don't need a QB. I think ATL is going for that spot and Lawrence.


Houston doesn’t own their own pick this year, it goes to Miami in the tunsil trade.
 

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AFC
Jets 0-7
Bengals 1-5-1
Texans 1-6
Jaguars 1-6

NFC
Giants 1-6
Vikings 1-5
Falcons 1-6

So we have to compete with the Jets, Jaguars, Falcons, Giants, Vikings
I don't see the Jets winning more than one game and this will probably doom us. Man we can't even lose correctly.
Just imagine we luck into a Herbert, Burrow, Tua type . I would keep Nolan and keep the complicated scheme. Winning a game moving forward is a mistake. 2-14 should get us the 2nd pick and Lawrence will balk at going to the Jets so that is where Jerry swoops in and grabs him.
All the above teams with the exception of the Jets will win at least another 2-4 games.
Jets are the only competition for the L man at this point.
GO JETS!!!
 

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I know fake fans... they post on social media after every loss stuff like this “ lose or win dc4l “ we’ll get them next week” blah blah blah they don’t even know the players on the roster but sure are hopeful, jolly and happy..

The best thing for the team is to lose... if you can’t see the logic in that then I have no idea what to tell you.
Thank you very much.... Do what is best for the team.
Getting to 4,5,6 wins is idiotic. This team is going nowhere. Look at the bigger picture!
 

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It's quite interesting to see someone calling me a fake fan for calling someone out as a fake fan for rooting against the Cowboys. It's a strange world we live in these days.
The issue is your very serial and 0 &1 approach to this discussion. Like everything in life there is nuance.
This Cowboy team winning 5 or 6 games will get us nothing. Why would a Cowboys fan want to have a false sense of hope when even if Dak is signed at 40 million a year we win 7 or 8 games. The oline is injured and aging, the def line, LB, secondary are in shambles.
Clear the cap, get assets, draft a rookie QB give yourself a chance to really get better.
 

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I dont see us getting better then the 5th pick
Houston and jags play each other
Cincy and wash play
Dallas plays minny
NYG plays Cincy
Dallas play Cincy
Cincy n Houston
Of course we play wash again
The Jets i just dont see another winnable game for them but you never know
chargers
denver
NE
Dallas
all have 2 wins

Houston
Cincy
Jack
All have 1 win

Man I am afraid of Jacksonville after the Minshew injury. We need to find a way to get the 1st or 2nd pick.
 

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AFC
Jets 0-7
Bengals 1-5-1
Texans 1-6
Jaguars 1-6

NFC
Giants 1-6
Vikings 1-5
Falcons 1-6

So we have to compete with the Jets, Jaguars, Falcons, Giants, Vikings
I don't see the Jets winning more than one game and this will probably doom us. Man we can't even lose correctly.
Just imagine we luck into a Herbert, Burrow, Tua type . I would keep Nolan and keep the complicated scheme. Winning a game moving forward is a mistake. 2-14 should get us the 2nd pick and Lawrence will balk at going to the Jets so that is where Jerry swoops in and grabs him.
Hey dckid, we have our franchise QB. He ain't going anywhere. Don't like it? Go root for the Jets.
 

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Hey dckid, we have our franchise QB. He ain't going anywhere. Don't like it? Go root for the Jets.
hahaha.
We are so pathetic... I still have the 3 SB's I saw... That is how I go about rooting for this team every year.
Even my 13 and 9 year old barely believe the Cowboys were a relevant franchise at one time.
They haven't won a lick in 25 years. Keep kissing Jerry's feet and talk about the Emperors new clothes.
You are delusional. We are functionally equivalent to the Lions.
 

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Yep.
We need Trevor!!! I am not rooting for the Cowboys to lose.
Just like Spurs fans in 1997 were not rooting for the Spurs to lose. They ended up with Duncan and got 20+ years of success.
I don't know if Trevor is that kind of player.. but lets try to get a generational talent, like the Colts did in Manning.
Some feel Fields may be the better pick, more like Mahomes and Murray.

My concern with not extending Prescott has always been if not him, then who? These Bozos wanted Lynch and Cook, don't trust them without a no brainer like Aikman.

If the Cowboys had a shot at either of these two QB's, I would take them over Prescott, I think they're both better now. Lance I am not so sure about, I haven't seen him play much.

However, none of this changes the fact that a team must be built around them, just like they've had at Clemson with the best RB and D in college and OSU with some high end D talent and RB's as well. The Skins made a mistake with Haskins because of the team he was on.
 

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What's even worse is someone stooping to the level of childish insults. Examine your conduct and you'll see the strangeness is caused by those like you.

Would you rather have Chase Young or K'Lavon Chaisson on our team? Think hard about that.
Someone has hurt feelings, I am sorry.
 

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It's quite interesting to see someone calling me a fake fan for calling someone out as a fake fan for rooting against the Cowboys. It's a strange world we live in these days.
It is simple. Some fans, and they are fans, have decided losing to win beats drafting where the Cowboys have been drafting because that hasn't worked out or we wouldn't be discussing what constitutes a fan.

I happen to disagree with the idea that they have become better at drafting. These people need all the help they can get. At least if they have a stud QB, that gives them a chance.

Besides that, from a selfish standpoint, I would rather watch Lawrence or Fields play than Prescott. Like I'd rather watch Burrow, Herbert, Murray or Tua.
 
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