McCarthy Simplified the Defense

Kaiser · Oct 28, 2020

gimmesix said:
Poe is the only one we cut without activating a replacement. And I think we did that because Justin Hamilton at least played hard last week.

I think Poe was a cut first, ask questions later move. He wasn't doing squat this year but Hamilton is a guy with one start over the last four years. Hamilton had more snaps than Poe this week (36 to 33) but only 19 the week before. IMO whoever replaces Poe isn't on the roster yet.

FWIW Jerry played the "Fat Tub" card in the presser -

"When you're 30 pounds overweight and you're not doing anything about what's keeping you from performing well on the field, there is no reason to get into the other stuff," Jones told ESPN.

EJK24 · Oct 28, 2020

Redball Express said:
Doesn't it bother you guys that all these guys being cut were signed under McCarthy?

Add in McCoy and Clinton Dix also cut..McCarthy and his talent evaluation should be a huge red light going forward.

Yes..Will Clay and the Jones are in on the signings and need their names highlited..

but if I understand it correctly..McCarthy makes the player decisions.

So does it not make it a truffle painful that Big Mike is that bad at evals?

And now we have all this rebuilding to do and Mike is zero at knowing who to sign?

This is a bomb about to go off after so many years of good drafting since 2016.

There are no magic pills.

I have to assume McCarthy is on a short leash right now in the smoking room at Jerrah's house right now.

When the brandy sniffers come out and Cuban cigars are handed out..

I wonder who speaks first?

Jerrah, Stephen or Will Clay?

I definitely find it troublesome that the off-season pickups have been a disaster whether it be because of MM, Jones', or McClay. It's a bad start for this coach and doesn't give me any reason to think its going to get fixed any time soon.

For me, being a fan, I guess it doesn't make alot of sense to just throw in the towel every year because Jones and his people are running the show. It doesn't give me alot of hope and its not a formula for short term or long term success. I'm well aware of that.

But like a sucker I still watch and hope that picking high in the draft coupled with spending some money in free agency could help this team. Once again, to your point, there isn't anything I'm seeing now that shows promise or makes me foolishly think we are headed in the right direction, but besides finding another team to root for, which I won't do, why would I not watch and hope things head in the right direction?

To your point, I'm assuming he's going to be on a shorter leash then the Jones' let on because I can't envision them staying the course if we stay playing this awful.

We shall see.

Established1971 · Oct 28, 2020

Kaiser said:
Reporter: "Coach McCarthy, there are anonymous players saying you need to simplify the Defense".

McCarthy: "Right, I just cut those three guys. It was simple".

The only silver lining in a trainwreck season is player development. Guys like Diggs, Biadasz, Gallimore, McGovern and Schultz will be way ahead next year because they where thrown into the fire this year. Some won't be starters but all will improve more than just the "light going on" like we saw with Trysten Hill this year (and Schultz to a degree).

With Poe, Worley and Griffen gone there will be more reps for guys like Gallimore, Anae, Randy Gregory, and Reggie Robinson (maybe CJ Goodwin in the dime also). Maybe this is the fish or cut bait with Jourdan Lewis where they give him a lot of reps. They will probably poach a DT from someone else's practice squad because we were already light at the position.

The moves today could end up being addition by subtraction in the long run, especially if they were malcontents.

and Denucci too, you never know if he has to finish a game in 2021 if Dak gets a hit to the head

TwentyOne · Oct 29, 2020

Kaiser said:
Reporter: "Coach McCarthy, there are anonymous players saying you need to simplify the Defense".

McCarthy: "Right, I just cut those three guys. It was simple".

The only silver lining in a trainwreck season is player development. Guys like Diggs, Biadasz, Gallimore, McGovern and Schultz will be way ahead next year because they where thrown into the fire this year. Some won't be starters but all will improve more than just the "light going on" like we saw with Trysten Hill this year (and Schultz to a degree).

With Poe, Worley and Griffen gone there will be more reps for guys like Gallimore, Anae, Randy Gregory, and Reggie Robinson (maybe CJ Goodwin in the dime also). Maybe this is the fish or cut bait with Jourdan Lewis where they give him a lot of reps. They will probably poach a DT from someone else's practice squad because we were already light at the position.

The moves today could end up being addition by subtraction in the long run, especially if they were malcontents.

I do think its a good message to other players.

But those were also 3 FA signings under our new HC. I have to judge him by that too. And that is not good work.

Parcells4Life · Oct 29, 2020

EJK24 said:
Good points...

I'm hoping we can find out what we have in some of these young guys now so we have a better idea what we need moving forward.

Cutting Worley was a no brainer and I think we need to see if Robinson can play. He doesn't have to be anything special to be an upgrade over Worley, plus we know if he's a guy that we think can improve and contribute next year.

I'm hoping Gallimore gets more snaps as well. It would be nice to think getting him experience now will make him a starter or quality back up by the time next season rolls around.

Gallimore is like Hill and Connor Williams. Most rookie linemen on both sides often need a season to just focus on strength before seeing the field in the trenches and making a meaningful impact.

Unless there’s rare talents like Donald/Tyron/Martin/Frederick, it’s hard to see rookies show up day 1 and be successful. La’El took until his 4th year to play at an all pro level. Most didn’t even have DLaw making the team heading into camp in his breakout year after missing with injuries/suspension first 2 years

gimmesix · Oct 29, 2020

Kaiser said:
I think Poe was a cut first, ask questions later move. He wasn't doing squat this year but Hamilton is a guy with one start over the last four years. Hamilton had more snaps than Poe this week (36 to 33) but only 19 the week before. IMO whoever replaces Poe isn't on the roster yet.

FWIW Jerry played the "Fat Tub" card in the presser -

"When you're 30 pounds overweight and you're not doing anything about what's keeping you from performing well on the field, there is no reason to get into the other stuff," Jones told ESPN.

Maybe. I just think we were testing out whether Hamilton could at least do decently. With our QB situation, I don't think we're seriously looking to add anyone right now. Maybe if DiNucci plays great and we somehow beat Philly.

yentl911 · Oct 29, 2020

Direwolf63 said:
My worry is that they ruin Diggs like they ruined Chido and Lewis.

Ruin Diggs? He’s sucked all year

gets beat like a drum each week

G2 · Oct 29, 2020

This is on the front office/GM. It's their responsibility to gather info from the coaching staff as to what their needs are, the type of player they're looking for and who can fit the scheme. The coaches simply give input. The staff make the picks and they are doing a piss poor job in FA specifically. Not to mention there was no off season/ preseason games to evaluate prior to the regular season. And, it's a whole new staff. You're seeing similar scenarios play out with all the other teams that have new coaches (Dallas, NY, Wash, Carolina). Cleveland is the exception, but they have about 45 first round pick talent to work with, and none of their FA are really stand outs.

Ranched · Oct 29, 2020

It's a trainwreck season being that's what it takes to clean up a decade of Garrett's mess.

Jimmy Johnson only had one win first year he took over. And some fans wanted him gone.

conner01 · Oct 29, 2020

Kaiser said:
Reporter: "Coach McCarthy, there are anonymous players saying you need to simplify the Defense".

McCarthy: "Right, I just cut those three guys. It was simple".

The only silver lining in a trainwreck season is player development. Guys like Diggs, Biadasz, Gallimore, McGovern and Schultz will be way ahead next year because they where thrown into the fire this year. Some won't be starters but all will improve more than just the "light going on" like we saw with Trysten Hill this year (and Schultz to a degree).

With Poe, Worley and Griffen gone there will be more reps for guys like Gallimore, Anae, Randy Gregory, and Reggie Robinson (maybe CJ Goodwin in the dime also). Maybe this is the fish or cut bait with Jourdan Lewis where they give him a lot of reps. They will probably poach a DT from someone else's practice squad because we were already light at the position.

The moves today could end up being addition by subtraction in the long run, especially if they were malcontents.

Great post

Captain43Crash · Oct 29, 2020

EJK24 said:
I was thinking this exact thing. Diggs is young and being apart of a really bad defense and being forced to cover the other teams best WR every week can be tough on a young guy. I hope his confidence doesn't take a hit because considering the circumstances, he's done ok up to this point.

I hope he stops letting average receivers run right by him!
CB 101: Don’t get beat deep!!!!!!!

EJK24 · Oct 29, 2020

Captain43Crash said:
I hope he stops letting average receivers run right by him!
CB 101: Don’t get beat deep!!!!!!!

Yea that play was horrible and there's no defending that.

If you look at the rest of the defense though he's not been near our biggest problem and he's only a rookie.

Kaiser · Oct 29, 2020

Parcells4Life said:
Gallimore is like Hill and Connor Williams. Most rookie linemen on both sides often need a season to just focus on strength before seeing the field in the trenches and making a meaningful impact.

Unless there’s rare talents like Donald/Tyron/Martin/Frederick, it’s hard to see rookies show up day 1 and be successful. La’El took until his 4th year to play at an all pro level. Most didn’t even have DLaw making the team heading into camp in his breakout year after missing with injuries/suspension first 2 years

I couldn't agree more. Fans get wrapped up in their draft predictions but almost all good OL or DL took time to develop. Frederick and Tyron were multi-time Pro Bowlers and they were average as rookies before developing into dominant players. DLaw is the perfect example.

That's why its encouraging that Biadasz is holding his own as a raw rookie, its means the chances are good he will be average or better next year. McGovern and Gallimore are clearly way behind the curve mentally but that is common. Ron Leary was so behind his first year that he ended up on the practice squad.

Kaiser · Oct 29, 2020

gimmesix said:
Maybe. I just think we were testing out whether Hamilton could at least do decently. With our QB situation, I don't think we're seriously looking to add anyone right now. Maybe if DiNucci plays great and we somehow beat Philly.

They definitely need to give Hamilton the tryout. DiNucci will get his trial by fire this week and I do like his upside for the long term. But I think the chances of him playing great Sunday night behind this OL pretty much look like this:

Kaiser · Oct 29, 2020

daboyzruleperiod said:
It's a trainwreck season being that's what it takes to clean up a decade of Garrett's mess.

Jimmy Johnson only had one win first year he took over. And some fans wanted him gone.

At the risk of being unpopular...nyuk, nyuk....

The irony is that it was definitely time for Garrett to go but if Jerry had enraged every last fan and kept him, the team would be better off his year. The players would be in a system they understand and not trying to learn on the fly, and all the "we like our guys" claptrap would have put better players on the field than these pizzpoor gambles on Poe, Clinton-Dix, McCoy, etc.

The trolls are going to freak out over this post, but the team would be better off with Jeff Heath and Maliek Collins right now.

cowboys1981 · Oct 29, 2020

Simplifying the defense would mean they go back to the 4-3 defense and can the 3-4.

CowboyRoy · Oct 29, 2020

Kaiser said:
Reporter: "Coach McCarthy, there are anonymous players saying you need to simplify the Defense".

McCarthy: "Right, I just cut those three guys. It was simple".

The only silver lining in a trainwreck season is player development. Guys like Diggs, Biadasz, Gallimore, McGovern and Schultz will be way ahead next year because they where thrown into the fire this year. Some won't be starters but all will improve more than just the "light going on" like we saw with Trysten Hill this year (and Schultz to a degree).

With Poe, Worley and Griffen gone there will be more reps for guys like Gallimore, Anae, Randy Gregory, and Reggie Robinson (maybe CJ Goodwin in the dime also). Maybe this is the fish or cut bait with Jourdan Lewis where they give him a lot of reps. They will probably poach a DT from someone else's practice squad because we were already light at the position.

The moves today could end up being addition by subtraction in the long run, especially if they were malcontents.

Yep…………..but the biggest silver lining is a top 5 draft pick.

Bullflop · Oct 30, 2020

It usually takes a train wreck of a season to inspire Jerry to fire someone -- especially one who signed as cheaply as Poe. It's no coincidence that there was someone to fill his shoes -- such things are easily predicted and rectified. I can't help but anticipate Nolan being sent packing at some point, also. Here's hoping it comes during the bye week, with George Edwards taking over at DC. Perhaps Edwards secretly hopes for the same thing?!

DallasDW00ds0n · Oct 30, 2020

I’m curious how we all give Diggs a pass for not playing well. I understand he’s a rookie, I’m not saying cut him, however he’s giving up big plays weekly.

yes, the whole defense is atrocious and it doesn’t help Diggs but Diggs also let a man run right by him last week and he just had his feet planted in the ground.

Also Chido leads the team in INTs with 1. Diggs has not brought anything to that category either.

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