If Urban Meyers was the hire

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MM has always been a sloppy coach with a makeshift defense. AR did more for him than vice versa. That's why I wanted Meyer or Harbaugh. I knew Harbaugh can get some guys in that could coach and fix that D. Meyer knows how to run a big time program, big lights and names. Going to the Cowboys would only place a check on his list.
 
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Are we still this bad?
No way. I was hoping we’d go and get Urban over MM, who’s a retread.

I’m hoping I’m wrong and MM gets his guys and we begin to compete for titles, but who knows?
 

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Are we still this bad?
Probably
We’ve played bad but a big part of that is circumstances around this season and injuries
Two of our starting LB out
Both OT out
All pro guard out
2 of top 3 CB out
Starting QB out
That’s a lot to overcome and no pre season to inn be stall a new defense
 

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I was hoping by now that the thread title would be corrected because I've never heard of Urban Meyers. I'm guessing he coach Joe Burrows. :muttley:
 

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No, wouldn't be this bad.

Jerry didn't even want to call Urban or anyone who is a demanding/serious type HC.

McCarthy fit the puppet mold, plus he has a SB ring as HC, Jerry fiqured fans would be happy/blind.

Jerry didn't take into account just how bad McCarthy really is.

Jerry just figured because McCarthy beat Garrett so often, he must be good.
 
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Jerry needs to pull his head out.

Urban or Riley...

Anything else is a failure.

Do we want to win, or not?
 
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I don’t believe so. The only chance for success in Dallas is to offset Jerry with a fearsome taskmaster. Meyer is that for sure. I think Meyer would scare these losers straight.

And Urban is actually a football genius unlike fake tough lying in his interviews MM.
 

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Are we still this bad?

Yes most likely. No mini camps or pre season games would cripple any team with a new coaching staff and new schemes. Not too mention the ridiculous number of injuries. MCCarthy and this staff get a free pass from me for this year. The real evaluation begins next year.
 

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I'm not sure how any HC on the planet would make much of a difference given the circumstances. I mean, there are a bunch here convinced Meyer would make a difference. Based on what? There were a handful of teams that needed a HC this season and he's still unemployed. Why?
 

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meyer has a congenital brain anomaly. an arachnoid cyst that sometimes causes him severe headaches. it's the reason he quit at florida and possibly even ohio state. not the best candidate for a high stress position. i did like lincoln riley. but it seems he just used his flirtation with the cowboys to get a huge raise from oklahoma.
 

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there are no ifs and butts and we've seen college coaches crash and burn before , no guarantees Meyer would have done one thing better given the same exact scenarios that happened to MM..

INJURIES DECIMATED THIS TEAM AND IS THE REASON FOR THE LAST 2 WEEKS BEING OUR WORST NON COMPETETIVE GAMES OUTCOMES..SERIOUSLY WAKE UP, I KNOW ITS COMMON TO SAY NO EXCUSES AND NEXT MAN UP BUT THE HATE FOR THE TEAM FROM THE TOP DOWN HAS CAUSED THIS PLACE TO BECOME TOXIC WITH HORRIBLE FANS..YOU ALL HAVE NO CHARACTER TURNING ON YOUR TEAM WHEN THEY ARE DOWN , YET YOU EXPECT THE TEAM AND PLAYERS FOR MORE ON THE FIELD..

IMHO Meyer could not have overcome the injurys to our key payers, no way , BillB could not have dont better job..

want proof , look at NE right now..they have lost a lot of players sure but Cam was their choice technically hes starter they had a strong defense minus a few C19 waivers ..they are 2-4

we have far worse situation here and Meyer could not have done better..

how many NC did Meyer win? didnt he fall short due to better comp around him? does it matter hypotheticals are as useless a car without tires..
 

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A good recruiting college coach isn't necessarily a good NFL coach. The NFL's even distribution of talent has put more than one ex college coach in a hurry to return to college.

Urban Meyer is like a woman going through menopause and can't find her hormone meds. I speak from experience and you do not want that person coaching your football team or within reaching distance of sharp objects.

And I am not bashing the man, he has some struggles and wasn't on any team's short list after openly campaigning for the Cowboys job.

I don't any of us can know the real difference between coaching a bunch of 18-23 year old's, and having 80 of them and dressing 60, and being able to be the disciplinarian for them to keep them in line and having 23+ paid players and only dressing 45 of them and having few of those punching bag teams because the 4 and 5 star recruits are disproportionately distributed. There is a good reason why Bama, Clemson, Georgia, OSU and OU are always vying for the CFP.

Saban and Spurrier couldn't wait to get back and Kelly had assistance in getting back but the vision that sticks with me was Bobby Petrino on the Falcons sideline in a MNF game after all of that vick crap went down and the look on his face when some of his players pulled up their jerseys showing t's protesting vick even being disciplined. He was in shock and embarrassed and the next week he was calling the Hogs.

Meyer is a risky hire for any college or pro team and if you want Riley, you'd better find the best DC money can buy. I think Matt Rhule is the exception but he was already in the NFL and knows the terrain. He was also smart and got a contract that pretty much gives him job security longer than most NFL HC's. Not that his owner wouldn't buy him a ticket on the 3"10 to Yuma, he's the fattest cat in the league.
 

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meyer has a congenital brain anomaly. an arachnoid cyst that sometimes causes him severe headaches. it's the reason he quit at florida and possibly even ohio state. not the best candidate for a high stress position. i did like lincoln riley. but it seems he just used his flirtation with the cowboys to get a huge raise from oklahoma.
He was canned at OSU for embarrassing the school supporting one of his coaches that liked to hit his wife.

Riley made that unusual comment about being interested in coaching in the NFL "someday", got a raise and quietly didn't interview with any team. He's good in college but I think he'd get cooked and eaten in the NFL. And he's not coming as a QBC or OC.
 
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Urban would have quit by now for "health reasons" after all of these injuries
 
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