The best quarterbacks drafted in the past decade

kskboys said:

I don't see it as luck. I see it as having the wrong guy in charge of the O. Don't forget, the same guy who was OC for ATL is now HC for SF. Kyle Shanahan simply does not understand how to run a ball control O. Yes, his O tends to build big leads, but then he has his Qb's throwing all over the field instead of having an eye on TOP and ball movement. To be clear, he likes to take deep drops and continue throwing long passes.

This plays right into the hands of the team who is behind. They obviously need to make some stops, what better way than to turn the dogs loose on a QB taking a deep drop waiting for routes to develop?

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J12B said:

For 2020, it's going to be Justin Herbert.

Been watching a lot of the Chargers this year and that kid is special. Going to be right up there with Mahomes.

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12+88=7 said:

Hypothetical, if Dallas were to have the number 1 pick it would be smart for them to select Lawrence. Dallas can then spend the money allocate to a Prescott signing and draft choices to address team needs.

If Dallas is in the top 5, it would not be smart to trade up for Lawrence. Prescott could be tagged. Dallas has their picks, 4 comp picks, and also Detroit's pick to help the other areas of the team. That's a lot of draft capital.

Scenario #2 now seems the most likely. There are too many teams ahead of Dallas for a realistic shot at #1.

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dckid said:

I was talking about Atlanta at a macro level not just the SB loss. I have a podcast worth of opinions as two what happened in that game. To put it simply Atlanta had to realize they were playing the clock and not the Patriots. If you go and analyze, they could have downed the ball every single play being up 28-3 and won the game. It was an impossible game to lose yet it happened. Just like Seattle not running at the goalline..
I would take Shanahan as my coach any day of the week. He knows how to win and utilize his players he will learn from his experience and have success.
If I was Dak, I would knock on SF's door this offseason and accept a 2 year 20 million per deal and go win a SB. Dak will find success and better coaching elsewhere. I am not anti Dak, but we are not the right team to be paying him 40 per year. We will not win. Full stop

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rocyaice said:

So let me get this straight. You’d rather draft defense the second round on instead of the first round on? How does that help the defense?

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BobbyFlame469 said:

2011:Cam Newton (MVP)
2012: Russel Wilson (Hall of famer)
2013: (bad year)
2014: (bad year)
2015: (bad year)
2016: Dak Prescott (OROY)
2017: Patrick Mahomes (MVP)
2018: Lamar Jackson (MVP)
2019: Kyler Murray (OROY)
2020: (Too soon to Tell)


The best quarterbacks of the past decade have been athletic playmaking quarterbacks. Drafting Trevor Lawrence may be the dumbest mistake a franchise can make. Hopefully, Fields will be available with the cowboys draft pick

Fields plays exactly like a bigger Russel Wilson with similar arm talent and an uncanny sixth sense for the deep ball.

Lawrence’s ceiling is a worse Andrew Luck. Someone who in his BEST season didn’t even have numbers better than Russel Wilson’s WORST season since 2015

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RonnieT24 said:

I think you're off in your assessment of Foles. Remember the Eagles went heavy on the RPO based attack once he took over. Foles is one of those sneaky athletic guys. He doesn't run much but he can run..Well maybe not now that he's old. Same with Goff and Garappolo. Both are good athletes who can move when need be. Remember Goff's keeper on the RPO that clinched that game against us? Garappolo might be a little less inclined to run now after the ACL surgery and now the ankle woes.. but dude was far from a statue before. And in 2015 Manning was an immobile shut putter as nothing he threw looked remotely like a pass down the stretch that season. I think being on a good team matters more than whether a guy can or cannot run. A lot more.

As an aside.. I don't think anybody would argue that Manning was anywhere near as good a passer as Cam that year.. The better passer lost that game because he faced the far superior defense.. just as Manning got clobbered by Seattle's defense despite being the superior QB to Wilson that year.

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ninja said:

Do you not see how a good offense helps a defense?
There is no defensive player capable of affecting the game like a Trevor Lawrence or Fields. Not even close. Can’t get either of these in the 2nd round.

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SlammedZero said:

I would be absolutely stunned if Dak isn't here next season and Dallas tries drafting a QB in the 1st round. I just do not see it happening.

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RonnieT24 said:

I remember being on this site posting during that game that very thing. When ATL went up 28-3 all the had to do was kneel every play the rest of the way and there would not have been enough time for the Pats to come back. They literally had to go out of their way to create the opportunity to lose that game. Same with Seattle.. not only not running it there but throwing to their FIFTH RECEIVER IN THE MOST IMPORTANT PLAY OF THE YEAR. The intended receiver on that play had something like 5 career receptions. That's like throwing it to you or me in that situation. Hell they would have been better off throwing it to me because I would not have heard footsteps and would have at least run through the route and made the DB come through me to get to the ball. That kid pulled up and made the INT possible. But I digress. Shanahan showed that the had not learned from the ATL debacle because he kept throwing the ball against the Chiefs even though the defense had stymied Mahomes most of the day. He had to know that that offense was going to get it together at some point. Also the 49er running game was averaging like 7 yards per rush all day. What the hell are your throwing it for? I think right before Jimmy G. threw the pick that started the comeback they had just run it for over 15 yards. Why not keep running it, punch it in for the kill shot while simultaneously eating clock and not allowing Mahomes more time to beat you?

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rocyaice said:

And that’s scary to me. But what al those qbs also have in common is that they didn’t go to bad teams....maybe you can argue Dak did since they were the 4th worst team in the league in 2015.....

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RonnieT24 said:

So you are advocating not only rolling the dice at QB but ignoring the open wounds on defense? Sorry I can't get behind that. If the Cowboys are in the top 5, and I would be shocked if they weren't.. they need to trade down .. stack some more picks up and find as many dawgs as they can find on defense.

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CowboyoWales said:

On the one hand scary or a good omen as our O-LINE and WR corp should help a rookie QB.

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12+88=7 said:

In that scenario(top 5) I said don't move up for a QB. You only select Lawrence if you have the #1 pick.

If you have the #1, you don't sign Prescott and use cap space to acquire players.

If you don't have the #1, you tag or sign Prescott.

Dallas is going to have 10 draft picks in 2021. Their own 1 through 4 and a 6th. Dallas also picked up Detroit's 6th which could become a 5th depending what Griffen does. Dallas will also have 4 comp picks in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th.

That is enough draft capital to help both sides of the ball.

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rocyaice said:

Every single pick should be going to that defense or offensive line. If it goes to any other position its a complete failure.

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rocyaice said:

This offensive line hasn't been good in sometime if we are being honest. It surely hasn't been great since 2016. And we also need to be realistic about the future of the offensive line when you have La'El Collins coming into seasons out of shape and Tyron broken down.

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rocyaice said:

The is full of good offenses with bad defenses what are you talking about lol? Seahawks have a good offense and a bad defense. Cowboys had a good offense but a bad defense. Falcons have a good offense but bad defense lol.......You can't just sit here and load up on offense and pray for the best on defense. It will rear its ugly head because there's going to come a game or game's where your offense sucks.......happens all the time. Chiefs offense sucks at times but they have a defense that can keep them in games.

And we don't know what Lawrence or Fields will be in the NFL but we do know that neither will be what Dak is in their rookie year.

I get it. Its the allure of seeing the "new". The uncertain. Trevor Lawrence looks the part. Looks like the Great American Kid. I get it. But be careful what you wish for.

This defense needs playmakers and you can't keep avoiding it. You want to once again give a premium pick to the offensive side of the football. This defense needs a premier game changer and you can't get that nowhere else but the draft.

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RonnieT24 said:

Yep.. we need nothing on offense except o-line depth. We need tons on defense. If we do not sign Dak we simply add one more thing we need to that list. That makes no sense to me.

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ninja said:

The NFL has been changing to all offense and little defense. All the rule changes are in favor of the offense. Fans want scores and shootouts.

Just like all of us, you have no idea what Lawrence and Fields will do as rookies. Especially with a good OL and the 3 WRs we have along with good RBs and TEs. All the pieces are in place for a rookie QB to come in and do well just like Dak did in 2016. And Dak has not been what he was as a rookie in any of the following years. Dak had plenty of opportunity to succeed. The cupboard was not bare. We have no idea how Dak will play next year.

The Cowboys invested heavily in the defense. LVE (injured), Taco (yeah big fail), and Byron Jones (left for $16M/yr) were 1st rd picks, Awuzie, Hill, Diggs, Lawrence, Jaylon Smith, Lee were 2nd round picks. They added free agents on the defensive side in Quinn, Aldon Smith, Griffen, Poe, McCoy. The defense had 6 each 2nd round picks and 1 first round pick and added Aldon Smith and McCoy. FAs did not work out this year and injuries hurt. Jaylon Smith playing like garbage sometimes hurt. Yes, one could say in hindsight some of the the defensive picks were a mistake. Yes, safety and DL were sacrificed to an extent. Hill was showing something before he got hurt and unfortunately safety Woods regressed.

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