The best quarterbacks drafted in the past decade

RonnieT24

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If we're in the top 5 there's the possible option of drafting Fields/Lance and spending the Dak money improving the Defense.

I'm sure if you think it through, without a Dak Regardless viewpoint you'll agree it's at least an option.

Sure it's an option, I don't want to go from being the best offense in football to ? on the promise that we will get lucky drafting a QB (again) and we will nail the defensive acquisitions with the money we would have paid Dak? What evidence do we have that that will happen? The last time we brought in a defensive free agent who actually elevated the defense was Deion. And we haven't exactly stacked pro-bowlers on defense via the draft either.. Maybe the best defensive draftee we've had in a decade was Byron and we couldn't wait to walk away from him. Am I missing anyone else?
 

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Too many fans forget that the QB position is the absolute hardest to find a quality starter. People acting like Trevor Lawrence is a lock to be great (even if we miraculously ended up with the #1 pick) are overlooking history.

If this organization chooses to not pay Dak (assuming he’s healthy is now a legit top 5-8 QB in this league) it would only be because they are going to do a complete 1989 type rebuild. I doubt JJ has the patience or fortitude to do that at 78.

I completely agree which is why people saying we should let Dak walk without a replacements are wrong. But Trevor Lawrence is being called a once in a decade prospect but some scouts. He has everything needed to be successful. He is big, strong, he can run, he has a good arm, and he comes from a winning program. I don't know how good he will be and I am not saying he is a sure thing, but he is a very talented player who should not have a problem finding success in the NFL.
 

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If we're in the top 5 there's the possible option of drafting Fields/Lance and spending the Dak money improving the Defense.

I'm sure if you think it through, without a Dak Regardless viewpoint you'll agree it's at least an option.
Its only a option if you get the 1st pick in the draft.

There is no way you can tell me this team can't use a Pat Surtain on it. Or a Gregory Rousseau.
 

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The handshake supposedly happened just after the deadline to sign a new contract expired this summer. I can't remember who I heard it from? I'm thinking it might have been Babe Laufenberg, but I could be wrong. I definitely heard it though.
Maybe by the end of this season............... pay up.
 

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On offense you have to address the OL.

Smith might not come back. This would move Collins to LT, but leave an opening at RT. I think you also need another interior lineman. That's two picks there. I would also look into a RB, not for next year, but the following. That would still leave seven picks left for defense.
 

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I completely agree which is why people saying we should let Dak walk without a replacements are wrong. But Trevor Lawrence is being called a once in a decade prospect but some scouts. He has everything needed to be successful. He is big, strong, he can run, he has a good arm, and he comes from a winning program. I don't know how good he will be and I am not saying he is a sure thing, but he is a very talented player who should not have a problem finding success in the NFL.

We can trot that scouting report out for 2-3 different guy every other year. It also matters what situation you bring the guy into. The fact of the matter is the best QBs of this era, Wilson, Brady, and Rodgers were lacking in one or more of those categories and none came from a winning program. Well Brady did come from a good program at UMich but they leaned on other QBs more than him.. Some will put Mahomes in that category but he aint there yet.
 

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Its only a option if you get the 1st pick in the draft.

There is no way you can tell me this team can't use a Pat Surtain on it. Or a Gregory Rousseau.

Of course we can and defense is the problem (i'd draft Micah Parsons), however, just not acknowledging that there are different viable options available, which includes trading down our first pick or drafting a QB (in the top 5) and improving Defense in later rounds and FA.

There's also a point of view that whatever we do in the draft it wont be sufficient to compete in 2021. You cant build an entire Defense in one draft.
 

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Sure it's an option, I don't want to go from being the best offense in football to ? on the promise that we will get lucky drafting a QB (again) and we will nail the defensive acquisitions with the money we would have paid Dak? What evidence do we have that that will happen? The last time we brought in a defensive free agent who actually elevated the defense was Deion. And we haven't exactly stacked pro-bowlers on defense via the draft either.. Maybe the best defensive draftee we've had in a decade was Byron and we couldn't wait to walk away from him. Am I missing anyone else?

Well lets hope Dak signs long term and it becomes somewhat academic other than do we trade a stud defensive player like Parsons or trade the pick for multi-players later on.

.....and yes looking at our drafting/signing success on defense its possibly a wise decision to look at multi-picks in the hope of one of them making it.
 

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Of course we can and defense is the problem (i'd draft Micah Parsons), however, just not acknowledging that there are different viable options available, which includes trading down our first pick or drafting a QB (in the top 5) and improving Defense in later rounds and FA.

There's also a point of view that whatever we do in the draft it wont be sufficient to compete in 2021. You cant build an entire Defense in one draft.
You can’t but in order to compete I need a defense that’s at least average. I need my defense not to be the worst of all time. We saw the jump the Panthers made.
 

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2011:Cam Newton (MVP)
2012: Russel Wilson (Hall of famer)
2013: (bad year)
2014: (bad year)
2015: (bad year)
2016: Dak Prescott (OROY)
2017: Patrick Mahomes (MVP)
2018: Lamar Jackson (MVP)
2019: Kyler Murray (OROY)
2020: (Too soon to Tell)


The best quarterbacks of the past decade have been athletic playmaking quarterbacks. Drafting Trevor Lawrence may be the dumbest mistake a franchise can make. Hopefully, Fields will be available with the cowboys draft pick:flagwave::flagwave:

Fields plays exactly like a bigger Russel Wilson with similar arm talent and an uncanny sixth sense for the deep ball.

Lawrence’s ceiling is a worse Andrew Luck. Someone who in his BEST season didn’t even have numbers better than Russel Wilson’s WORST season since 2015
Let's remove that HOF label next to Russell Wilson. He hasn't retired yet--
and there are \ will be a fair number of former QBs whose careers now are better for that recognition.
 

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Dak didn't get greedy. Stop spreading lies. Dak was in agreement with the $35 mil/year offer. It was the length of the contract he was in dispute with, plus Jerry's refusal to include a "no tag" for the last year of the contract. By the time Dak had agreed to Jerry's final offer, time had run out, hence why Stephen and Dak afterwards agreed on a handshake that both were agreed to get the same final offer signed right after this season ends.

Sure, Dak is now relying on his broken ankle/lower leg to heal. By March, both Dak and the Cowboys will know whether it will heal fully or not. That's a whole month and a half before the Draft happens by the end of April. If Dak's injury shows signs of healing well and Dak is able to perform back to normal on it, expect Jerry and Stephen to offer Dak if not the same a slightly similar new contract offer with some safety clauses added just in case Dak reinjures that lower leg injury or if it suddenly starts bothering him in the future. If Dak's leg does not show good healing but takes longer to heal with it by March, Dak either will get franchise tagged once again or be allowed to shop his services elsewhere.

Let's put this in football terms, shall we?

Dak takes the snap and is locked on his goal (1st read), he has to start moving in the pocket because that read still isn't open. Finally, he spots a way to get most of what he wants (2nd read), but it's too late just as he was going to sign (throw a pass) his time runs out (Sack/fumble).

He was just a split second late in making his decision. Too bad for Dak, and honestly too bad for us fans that would like this whole situation behind us.
 

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Let's put this in football terms, shall we?

Dak takes the snap and is locked on his goal (1st read), he has to start moving in the pocket because that read still isn't open. Finally, he spots a way to get most of what he wants (2nd read), but it's too late just as he was going to sign (throw a pass) his time runs out (Sack/fumble).

He was just a split second late in making his decision. Too bad for Dak, and honestly too bad for us fans that would like this whole situation behind us.
Well stated! ;):thumbup:
 

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I think Fields is the better player overall myself
Agreed.


Trevor Lawrence with better offensive players has performed WORSE than Deshaun Watson did at Clemson both his Freshamn and Sophmore years.


Less touchdowns and yards on more pass attempts.
 

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Yep.. we need nothing on offense except o-line depth. We need tons on defense. If we do not sign Dak we simply add one more thing we need to that list. That makes no sense to me.
Ronnie I am concerned with Smitty's health long term and would consider taking Sewell from Oregon if we end up with a top 5 pick. Him getting hurt and nicked up effects his performance when he's out there. And now he's missing multiple games at a time.
 

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Agreed.


Trevor Lawrence with better offensive players has performed WORSE than Deshaun Watson did at Clemson both his Freshamn and Sophmore years.


Less touchdowns and yards on more pass attempts.
Agreed, and Fields throws seem to be crisp and on point as they should and hes a pocket QB who can run and not the other way around
 
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