One Draft Pick changes everything next year

Whyjerry

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Yeah, he could never be a starter except for the fact he was the starter this year before getting hurt.

So Hill got starter snaps (about 60) once this year. First time in his career. So yeah let’s pencil him in as an anchor for next year’s defense.
 

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So Hill got starter snaps (about 60) once this year. First time in his career. So yeah let’s pencil him in as an anchor for next year’s defense.

He had the second most snaps among DTs before he got hurt. The point is he can be a starter, especially with more experience. Nice job of moving the goalposts but in reality you just admitted you were wrong in the span of two posts.
 

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So tomorrow night when you are on your 7th beer watching the Dallas OL give up its 14th sack, fear not. For next year the team will be more talented than this year but with an offseason to learn the defense.

Next year the offense gets back three Pro Bowl level players, plus Jarwin, plus Martin is back this week. The best group of WRs in the NFL returns (Lamb will be even better) and the other two OL Williams and Biadasz will each be 24 years old but solid starters by that point. The major concern is obviously the OTs returning but nothing about Collins seems to show a long term problem and plenty of elite OTs have missed seasons like Tyron Smith – with Jason Peters (currently starting at age 38) a good example.

On defense the young DL will develop (Gallimore, Hill, Gregory, Anae), Aldon Smith likely returns and the DL will finally develop some continuity in the new scheme. Diggs will be playing at a #1 CB level next year after taking his lumps this year (while showing above average athletic skills).


The rest of the secondary will be rebuilt but one draft pick can completely change the landscape. Dallas looks to have a draft pick around the 5th to 10th spot, look at the players taken there in the last four years:

Pick 9 CJ Henderson, #6 Jamal Adams, #11 Marshon Lattimore, #5 Jalen Ramsey and #11 Minkah Fitzpatrick.

There are a ton of older veteran Safeties who could be signed to fill a spot in the secondary for a cap hit of 4 – 7 Million:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/safety/

The second round pick gets you a player who can join the secondary rotation at a minimum and probably start (Diggs, Awuzie, etc).

Another free agent (like Cam Fleming) and the third round pick gets you solid depth at OT. Recent 3rd round picks at OT range from decent backups to above average starters:

Pick 74 Geron Christian, #83 Orlando Brown, # Shon Coleman.

But most of the year to year improvement comes from both lines developing cohesion in a new system and the young players developing with more reps (like Schultz and Hill did this year).

Trolls, rev your engines.

But don’t say we will blow the draft picks after we got Lamb and Diggs this year with much later picks.

And don’t say we don’t have the cap space, even at a 175 Million cap and franchise tagging Prescott we still have 15 Million left over before any restructuring moves (Aldon Smith and conceivably Sean Lee are the only players in UFA we would want to resign).
Your naivete knows no bounds
IT WILL TAKE 4 YEARS TO REBUILD THE D.
BY THAT TIME OUR O WILL BE SECOND RATE.
SEAN LEE??? I WOULD LIKE TO SCOLD YOU IN PERSON. :angry:
 

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So Hill got starter snaps (about 60) once this year. First time in his career. So yeah let’s pencil him in as an anchor for next year’s defense.

Poor JoJo Rabbit Kaiser, you see where this is going don’t you ? While you and Jerry are in the bunker with your delusions that everything is about to be okay, this football team has collapsed around you. And it isn’t being fixed with one draft pick unless you and Jerry hit another home run by drafting a running back in the first round again...lol. Just dance, JoJo. You can’t look any worse.
 

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So tomorrow night when you are on your 7th beer watching the Dallas OL give up its 14th sack, fear not. For next year the team will be more talented than this year but with an offseason to learn the defense.

Next year the offense gets back three Pro Bowl level players, plus Jarwin, plus Martin is back this week. The best group of WRs in the NFL returns (Lamb will be even better) and the other two OL Williams and Biadasz will each be 24 years old but solid starters by that point. The major concern is obviously the OTs returning but nothing about Collins seems to show a long term problem and plenty of elite OTs have missed seasons like Tyron Smith – with Jason Peters (currently starting at age 38) a good example.

On defense the young DL will develop (Gallimore, Hill, Gregory, Anae), Aldon Smith likely returns and the DL will finally develop some continuity in the new scheme. Diggs will be playing at a #1 CB level next year after taking his lumps this year (while showing above average athletic skills).


The rest of the secondary will be rebuilt but one draft pick can completely change the landscape. Dallas looks to have a draft pick around the 5th to 10th spot, look at the players taken there in the last four years:

Pick 9 CJ Henderson, #6 Jamal Adams, #11 Marshon Lattimore, #5 Jalen Ramsey and #11 Minkah Fitzpatrick.

There are a ton of older veteran Safeties who could be signed to fill a spot in the secondary for a cap hit of 4 – 7 Million:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/safety/

The second round pick gets you a player who can join the secondary rotation at a minimum and probably start (Diggs, Awuzie, etc).

Another free agent (like Cam Fleming) and the third round pick gets you solid depth at OT. Recent 3rd round picks at OT range from decent backups to above average starters:

Pick 74 Geron Christian, #83 Orlando Brown, # Shon Coleman.

But most of the year to year improvement comes from both lines developing cohesion in a new system and the young players developing with more reps (like Schultz and Hill did this year).

Trolls, rev your engines.

But don’t say we will blow the draft picks after we got Lamb and Diggs this year with much later picks.

And don’t say we don’t have the cap space, even at a 175 Million cap and franchise tagging Prescott we still have 15 Million left over before any restructuring moves (Aldon Smith and conceivably Sean Lee are the only players in UFA we would want to resign).

I don't think Aldon Smith gets resigned, he is going to cost over 10 million to keep. I fully expect Gregory and Anae to become our edge rushers on the right side.

Your right, an elite prospect could change the defense around in a hurry. If the team selects high, you would think an elite CB or FS would be high on their list. The likes of NT, LB, SS all can be had after the 1st rd, especially if they are picking in the top 40. The front office is going to have to hit on most of their picks as the cap is going to be tight moving forward if they do resign Dak to an extension.
 

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And don’t say we don’t have the cap space, even at a 175 Million cap and franchise tagging Prescott we still have 15 Million left over before any restructuring moves (Aldon Smith and conceivably Sean Lee are the only players in UFA we would want to resign).

I expect that ASmith will be too expensive. When the whole league is bidding on you, the most optimistic wins, and there is a lot of reason to be optimistic about ASmith.

Meanwhile, we've already got DLaw, Gregory, Anae, and Armstrong under contract.

Much like Lee's groin, I'm torn. Back in the day, he probably would have been even better behind a 2gap dline protecting him and letting him read and react to the ball. Still *could* give us some of that. But he's got age and injury history against him now. 34. Despite positive reviews last year, he was just ok. Time to move on with younger options, if we have them.
 
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Unless these players improve their play significantly, Dallas needs to trade Lewis, Woods, Thompson, & possibly Crawford.

And if Dallas isn’t going to extend Awuzie & Smith, then they might as well trade them, too. Not only will Dallas receive some draft capital in return, but it will allow the rookies & other young players to play & develop.

We own Woods for next year. He's cheap.

"Might as well trade" doesn't take comp pick value into account. Teams need to give us comp pick value or more to make a trade worth our while.


With most of them in a contract year, why would a team give us comp pick value for a half year rental?
 

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I think you forgot to add the part about trading Zeke to Minnesota for gazillion picks.
 

CalPolyTechnique

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No, I said you live in Fresno because A) you are a loser and B) you stalk people but refuse to say anything about yourself.

You are the one that said SLO is like Santa Barbara, which is like saying Austin is like Belgrade.

No Donkey Boy, feel free to expose me and show where I said “SLO is like Santa Barbara.”

Go ahead, fetch.

And don’t doctor up the post to remove all context like you did last time you lying hack.
 

CalPolyTechnique

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Shirley, Larry and Robert was picked near the end of round 1.....28th or 27th.
So how is that comparable to Jamal Adams and Miss Claiborne being picked 6th?

Was their Wonderlic lower than 4????????

He’s doing the best he can with the little he’s got.

You don’t find the “look at all these DB’s that were picked this high in years past, so we should get a guy just as good this year” compelling, lool?
 

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It don't matter where we're pickin if Jerral is doing the pickin. Don't buy his hype and get your heart broke AGAIN. ain't nothin gonna change here.
 

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No, you are going to watch a simple point sail miles over your head. Its beyond stupid to say Dallas can't draft well in the first round because of Mo Claiborne eight years ago - especially when their first round picks since then have been home runs.

Pulling examples out of your behind from 8 years ago might as well be 50 because there is a different group in Dallas doing the drafting.
Picking RB with the 4th overall pick is dumb, not a home run. Taco was a strike out. LVE has been a bunt. Lamb seems to be good but still not sure that was the right pick for us at the time. They did a good job with Byron and had a nice run of O lineman but I’d hardly consider all their first round picks “home runs” especially over the past 4-5 years.
 

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Profoundly stupid post. I "gon be" putting you on Ignore because there are zero reasons to read more idiots here than I have to.
Which is why you end up talking to yourself in your own little delusional world most of the time. You refuse to listen to or engage with opinions that oppose yours so you keep drinking your own swill and your delusions become grander and grander.

When you can’t confront adversity, run the other way. Winning strategy right there folks!
 

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We talk about all the players this team needs to replace but maybe they need a QB that will inspire these players to elevate their game. Great teams have a QB that elevates even the defense. If your not going to draft a QB than draft DLINE. Do not waste a premier pick on secondary or oline.
 

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This team needs players in all 3 levels of the defense but stupidity runs amuck on these boards by some who believe it’s a qb will fix it.

more proof that Stephen A has a point about Dallas fans
 

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Starters/Depth


QB – Dak, Looch
RB – Zeke, Pollard
TE – Jarwin, Schultz, Bell
WR – Cooper, Gallup, Lamb, Wilson, Brown
OT – Tyron Smith, #3 Draft Pick
OG – Williams, McGovern
C – Biadasz
OG – Martin
OT – La’el Collins, Free Agent Swing Tackle

DE – Dlaw, Dorance Armstrong
DT – Hill, Vet FA
DT – Gallimore, Woods
DE – Aldon Smith, Gregory, Anae
MLB – LVE
WLB – Jaylon
SLB – Joe Thomas

CB – Diggs
CB - #1 or #2 Pick
CB – Brown
Safety – #1 or #2 Pick
Safety – Vet FA

For me DT is the priority. And God help us if those are our starting LBers next year.
 
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