JeffInDC
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And you know everything... RIGHT!?!
Didn’t say I did *******...doesn’t make me wrong either.
And you know everything... RIGHT!?!
Doesn't make you right either...Didn’t say I did *******...doesn’t make me wrong either.
Brown and Kevin Glover made pro bowls because of Barry.
they played together for 4(!) years before Barry got there, and here are their team rushing ranks:
1985: Att:18 Yards:26 RushTDs:20 YPC:28
1986: Att:16 Yards:15 RushTDs:16 YPC:19
1987: Att:25 Yards:25 RushTDs:23 YPC:24
1988: Att:26 Yards:27 RushTDs:28 YPC:28
they were known as one of the worst lines in the whole NFL, no redeeming qualities. Suddenly Barry shows up and a couple of them are making perennial pro bowls.
Didn't they same about Emmitt....only got yards because of the O Line. Outside of Barry Sanders....I ain't never seen a RB get yardage with a bad OL.His funk is he was always over rated because the O line. Unfortunately Jerry never realized it and most people here didn’t either.
Hey Cmac, glad you showed up. So who’s fault is it this week?Didn't they same about Emmitt....only got yards because of the O Line. Outside of Barry Sanders....I ain't never seen a RB get yardage with a bad OL.
Can we simply assess....it was a loss from a team that has problems with OL, gadget play Coordinator, deficiency in the QB (no offense to Nooch)? or you want to put in all on Zeke, when WR play is impacted by such, also, as an indicator? There's more wrong that just Zeke, that's all. Can't dispute his miscues when they happen, but you seem to reached for something further, when he doesn't have miscues.Hey Cmac, glad you showed up. So who’s fault is it this week?
zeke had a whopping 3.3 ypc in a huge divisional game, why is he paying being paid as the 2nd highest RB?
They all suck, I get it, but to my knowledge only one of them held out with TWO years left on their contract and held the entire team hostage with his demands to be paid as the highest for his position and refused to play until he was paid as such.Can we simply assess....it was a loss from a team that has problems with OL, gadget play Coordinator, deficiency in the QB (no offense to Nooch)? or you want to put in all on Zeke, when WR play is impacted by such, also, as an indicator? There's more wrong that just Zeke, that's all. Can't dispute his miscues when they happen, but you seem to reached for something further, when he doesn't have miscues.
Pockets again?.....Does Zeke owe you money?....We already know you don't like him personally....Do you know him personally, to dislike him personally? Just sayin'....and Much love.
…..then shouldn't you be blaming our Owner/GM/Coach/ known as JJ......I ain't about the turn down more money from my boss.....I'm underpaid right now.....it can't hold out in my profession....but I ain't removing myself from negotiating my worth.They all suck, I get it, but to my knowledge only one of them held out with TWO years left on their contract and held the entire team hostage with his demands to be paid as the highest for his position and refused to play until he was paid as such.
To my knowledge there’s only one of those that said “put respect by my name.”
I’m still waiting for that ONE player to earn his respect and the paycheck he demanded.
This has nothing to do with MY money, are you not familiar with the salary cap? Do I need to tell you about how one players salary effects the entire team?
Oh, for sure. JJ is the ultimate responsibility and I can’t stand him but he’s not going anywhere and he’s the one making the decisions. This is a sports forum about a team we all love, there’s going to be a lot of criticism after 25 years of failure and mediocrity. Throw in a worthless diva who demands respect along with a fat pay check and refuses to honor his contract with an unprecedented TWO year left on his contract until he his paid as the highest for his position then he damn well deserves every but of criticism and some.…..then shouldn't you be blaming our Owner/GM/Coach/ known as JJ......I ain't about the turn down more money from my boss.....I'm underpaid right now.....it can't hold out in my profession....but I ain't removing myself from negotiating my worth.
Dez had passion that got called a cancer. As for crumbling around adversity....TRomo come to mind in big games....I don't get it, other than you don't like Zeke personally....and can't find one bad thing about a JWitt return and START, last year?Oh, for sure. JJ is the ultimate responsibility and I can’t stand him but he’s not going anywhere and he’s the one making the decisions. This is a sports forum about a team we all love, there’s going to be a lot of criticism after 25 years of failure and mediocrity. Throw in a worthless diva who demands respect along with a fat pay check and refuses to honor his contract with an unprecedented TWO year left on his contract until he his paid as the highest for his position then he damn well deserves every but of criticism and some.
I’m also a competitive person and have played sports for a good portion of my life. I don’t like losing a coin flip. Divas like zeke have no pride or passion, you can tell. That cat has been an entitled brat his entire life and has never faced adversity. From what we’ve seen, any time he has faced adversity he crumbles like a poorly made piece of corn bread (just made that up but if you’ve ever had poorly made corn bread then you would know what I’m talking about ).
Zeke has had his issues this year but he isn't nearly as bad as some are projecting. He is still pacing 1,000 yards and 10 TDs.
The fumbles were awful but it looks like he's starting to get them under control. Remember, he hasn't had fumbling issues his entire career.
The issue right now is he doesn't have any sort of consistent passing game to put pressure on opposing defenses, leading to stacked boxes and players keying in on him specifically. Some may say it is his job to make it work but they're being unrealistic. Stacked boxes plus no offensive line leads to subpar production. All day every day.
Does everyone else remember when Troy Hambrick was supposedly far superior to #22? How well did that work out when Smith left? Does anyone actually think it would be any different with Pollard, a guy who has never carried a load for his team? C'mon people, be realistic.
I was never a big fan of Romo, classic choke artist. I loved Dez’s passion, somewhat reminds me of myself, but he could keep it contained and it hurt the team.Dez had passion that got called a cancer. As for crumbling around adversity....TRomo come to mind in big games....I don't get it, other than you don't like Zeke personally....and can't find one bad thing about a JWitt return and START, last year?
hate trolling Zeke seem to be the hot topic scapegoat this season more so then normal which is hard to do but its happening..insane IMO..Yeah for all the talk people keep trotting out about how great Barkley is we can count the number of winning seasons he has led the Giants to on none fingers. I keep reading how he was "putting up comparable numbers to Zeke behind that horrible line in New York." Then I look.. Dude's best season was his rookie year with 1307 yards.. .. Hell Zeke outrushed him that year by 200 yards despite being held out of the final game of the season. Last year he dipped to 1003 yards in 13 games.. again finishing over 300 yards behind Zeke.. And that brings us to this season.. In his 1+ games this year without the veteran QB to at least keep defenses somewhat honest, Barkley was putting up ONE POINT EIGHT YARDS PER CARRY!!! 1.8? I mean REALLY!?!??!! It's weird how you take away any semblance of a passing threat and even great backs suffer a massive reduction in production. People really need to stop watching Barkley's highlight package and focus on reality. He's a wonderful back and I would be happy to have him on my team. But this notion that he is head and shoulders above Zeke is a pipe dream that people need to wake up from.
very well saidZeke has had his issues this year but he isn't nearly as bad as some are projecting. He is still pacing 1,000 yards and 10 TDs.
The fumbles were awful but it looks like he's starting to get them under control. Remember, he hasn't had fumbling issues his entire career.
The issue right now is he doesn't have any sort of consistent passing game to put pressure on opposing defenses, leading to stacked boxes and players keying in on him specifically. Some may say it is his job to make it work but they're being unrealistic. Stacked boxes plus no offensive line leads to subpar production. All day every day.
Does everyone else remember when Troy Hambrick was supposedly far superior to #22? How well did that work out when Smith left? Does anyone actually think it would be any different with Pollard, a guy who has never carried a load for his team? C'mon people, be realistic.
There's no disputing that first part.I was with him until he said Barry Sanders had a bad O-line. That line was nowhere near as bad as people made it out to be.
Bwhahahahahahaha....look at this chode, you have to be trolling.Yeah for all the talk people keep trotting out about how great Barkley is we can count the number of winning seasons he has led the Giants to on none fingers. I keep reading how he was "putting up comparable numbers to Zeke behind that horrible line in New York." Then I look.. Dude's best season was his rookie year with 1307 yards.. .. Hell Zeke outrushed him that year by 200 yards despite being held out of the final game of the season. Last year he dipped to 1003 yards in 13 games.. again finishing over 300 yards behind Zeke.. And that brings us to this season.. In his 1+ games this year without the veteran QB to at least keep defenses somewhat honest, Barkley was putting up ONE POINT EIGHT YARDS PER CARRY!!! 1.8? I mean REALLY!?!??!! It's weird how you take away any semblance of a passing threat and even great backs suffer a massive reduction in production. People really need to stop watching Barkley's highlight package and focus on reality. He's a wonderful back and I would be happy to have him on my team. But this notion that he is head and shoulders above Zeke is a pipe dream that people need to wake up from.
Got it....I think the 'Boys should have done him just like LV has done him.....you will play, but you ain't the Man no more....not be given the BFF perks he got last year. BTW, he laying down after catches like he is a WR....but never was about YAC.....and got a PASS when he went to Cabo in the midst to a playoff game. All good. You don't Zeke personally, and I don't JWitt was no more than a BFF, talent development roadblock, and stat chaser....no rings like everybody else. So we good.I was never a big fan of Romo, classic choke artist. I loved Dez’s passion, somewhat reminds me of myself, but he could keep it contained and it hurt the team.
Still love Witten and can’t criticize him for wanting to still play when he’s almost 40 (playing at the vet minimum) unlike an unnamed diva who looks and acts like he wants to hang up the cleats when he’s not even 26 and just demanded to be paid the highest for his position.
Thanks for the reminder.