This Was The Turning Point of the Game For Me

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But did you watch this game? This was game was winnable. It's not like the last 2 weeks where we come in and lay an egg and have zero chance. This defense got us 4 turnovers. We had a lead and driving midway in the 3rd. How anyone could not see the Eagles are as trash as us and they were begging for us to win this game is beyond me.
If Philly DBs didn't dress up as Cowboy DBs for Halloween, this game would have been >35 -9. DeNucci had at least 2 pick sixes dropped and more that should have been picked.

Fools gold to look at that game and think there was ever any probable chance. It would have taken more miracles than all the sainthood in the vatican
 

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Pollard had 3 straight runs as good as Zeke if not better than they took him out and back with Zeke
Agreed, I was using Zeke as an example since I saw that happen two weeks in a row, but last night the same type thing happened with Pollard. Let a good thing roll...
 

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Honestly I believed we were in it until DiNucci coughed up the ball late in the 4th quarter. Sad he did that.

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Honestly I believed we were in it until DiNucci coughed up the ball late in the 4th quarter. Sad he did that.

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Yep. We were driving the ball well and eating clock. We were only down 6 so a score and an XP gives us the lead. And our defense was shutting them down the whole night. If only he could have made a few extra plays. Or just thrown that ball away and lived to fight another down.
 

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We were up 9-7 and driving the ball down their throats. Eagles up to that point had did much of nothing. I believe we were on a 9 play drive and ran the ball every play or all except one. It was 2 and medium and what is our call? A slow developing, predictable reverse to Wilson. Does Kellen Moore not know to stick with what it working? That made it 3rd and very long, settled for a very long FG. Not even close. Eagles get the ball in good field position and go down and score. And that was pretty much game for me. Such a maddening play call that made zero sense.

Even Collinsworth said had we just kept ramming the ball down their throats going north and south, they probably do not stop us. At the worst, we have a much easier FG try and extend the lead to 12-7. We needed every point we could get this game. But with how we were driving, we could have made it 16-7 and who knows what happens from there.

Dreaming. Nothing would have made a difference. The direct snaps to Zeke and Wilson were getting a little annoying, but I applaud them for at least trying to win and doing something, anything.

They knew they had to run the ball the entire game and were just trying to get creative in doing that. Dinucci is about the worst QB I have ever seen.
 

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Dreaming. Nothing would have made a difference. The direct snaps to Zeke and Wilson were getting a little annoying, but I applaud them for at least trying to win and doing something, anything.

They knew they had to run the ball the entire game and were just trying to get creative in doing that. Dinucci is about the worst QB I have ever seen.

Lol @ nothing would have made a difference. Y'all don't seem to know how sports work. It sure does make a difference at key moments in the game on what you do and don't do. This Eagles team is trash and belong in the cellar. All we had to do was hit a few plays a we win the game. Early in the game up 3-0 and inside their redzone, we fumble and they recover. And the play I mentioned.

There was nothing creative about the drive I mentioned up 9-7. It was just ramming it down their throats. So why go away from that? Especially on 2nd and 6. Newsflash, sideways plays rarely work in the NFL. This isn't high school football.
 

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We were up 9-7 and driving the ball down their throats. Eagles up to that point had did much of nothing. I believe we were on a 9 play drive and ran the ball every play or all except one. It was 2 and medium and what is our call? A slow developing, predictable reverse to Wilson. Does Kellen Moore not know to stick with what it working? That made it 3rd and very long, settled for a very long FG. Not even close. Eagles get the ball in good field position and go down and score. And that was pretty much game for me. Such a maddening play call that made zero sense.
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Seems to me that if you’re tanking the season you call dumb plays at the most opportune time
 

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Fans spent years complaining about Garrett's predictable offense...

Now fans complain that Moore should be more predictable...

i believe you’ve missed the point. The point is not about predictable versus not predictable. The point is about working versus not working. If something is predictable but working, that is good. If something is not predictable but not working, that is bad. Moore stopped doing something that was working to do something less predictable that did NOT work. That is bad. People complained about Garrett’s offense because it did not work. Know why nobody complained about our predictable 90’s Super Bowl offense ? Because it worked.
 

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But we've stopped running when it has been working for two straight games now... Zeke getting decent chunks at a time, and then they pull him for Pollard and the running game stops. Makes no sense why you pull a guy and change up when it is working.

Pollard was much more effective than Zeke. I was watching the stats and Zeke started out at 4.5 average. He dropped to 3.8 and by the third he was at his finishing 3.3 yard average. Pollard started out at 6.8 in the first half and finished at 5.7. Granted he only had 7 touches for 40 yards, vs Zeke's 19 for 63.

I've said it before, Moore gets impatient.
 

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We were up 9-7 and driving the ball down their throats. Eagles up to that point had did much of nothing. I believe we were on a 9 play drive and ran the ball every play or all except one. It was 2 and medium and what is our call? A slow developing, predictable reverse to Wilson. Does Kellen Moore not know to stick with what it working? That made it 3rd and very long, settled for a very long FG. Not even close. Eagles get the ball in good field position and go down and score. And that was pretty much game for me. Such a maddening play call that made zero sense.

Even Collinsworth said had we just kept ramming the ball down their throats going north and south, they probably do not stop us. At the worst, we have a much easier FG try and extend the lead to 12-7. We needed every point we could get this game. But with how we were driving, we could have made it 16-7 and who knows what happens from there.
shades of garrett, often garrett got too smart for his own good and out smarted himself. in the NFL, you keep taking what they are giving you until they learn to stop it. you don't stop yourself.

like I have argued before, Moore is learning on the job, he is being taken to school by smarter DCs, he came up too fast through the ranks....
 

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We were up 9-7 and driving the ball down their throats. Eagles up to that point had did much of nothing. I believe we were on a 9 play drive and ran the ball every play or all except one. It was 2 and medium and what is our call? A slow developing, predictable reverse to Wilson. Does Kellen Moore not know to stick with what it working? That made it 3rd and very long, settled for a very long FG. Not even close. Eagles get the ball in good field position and go down and score. And that was pretty much game for me. Such a maddening play call that made zero sense.

Even Collinsworth said had we just kept ramming the ball down their throats going north and south, they probably do not stop us. At the worst, we have a much easier FG try and extend the lead to 12-7. We needed every point we could get this game. But with how we were driving, we could have made it 16-7 and who knows what happens from there.

I'm pretty sure Dallas messed up two plays in a row. They kept running it behind Biadasz and Martin. On the play before the one you mentioned I think Zeke went left instead of behind them. Collinsworth also mentioned that and the replay did show a hole opening up on the right side.
 

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Lol @ nothing would have made a difference. Y'all don't seem to know how sports work. It sure does make a difference at key moments in the game on what you do and don't do. This Eagles team is trash and belong in the cellar. All we had to do was hit a few plays a we win the game. Early in the game up 3-0 and inside their redzone, we fumble and they recover. And the play I mentioned.

There was nothing creative about the drive I mentioned up 9-7. It was just ramming it down their throats. So why go away from that? Especially on 2nd and 6. Newsflash, sideways plays rarely work in the NFL. This isn't high school football.

Nope...……...Cowboys team is pathetic. Nothing would have made a difference. Cowboys would have gotten killed anyway. You seem surprised and disappointed. This was expected and par for the course. Maybe its you that doesn't get how sports work.
 

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i believe you’ve missed the point. The point is not about predictable versus not predictable. The point is about working versus not working. If something is predictable but working, that is good. If something is not predictable but not working, that is bad. Moore stopped doing something that was working to do something less predictable that did NOT work. That is bad. People complained about Garrett’s offense because it did not work. Know why nobody complained about our predictable 90’s Super Bowl offense ? Because it worked.
Hindsight is 20/20.
 

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But we've stopped running when it has been working for two straight games now... Zeke getting decent chunks at a time, and then they pull him for Pollard and the running game stops. Makes no sense why you pull a guy and change up when it is working.
I agree, I think you keep running it until they stop it. We were getting 6 yards per run on that drive and then we trick to out trick them and then we get hit with a loss. Why out trick them when blowing them up with the run is working? Bad coaching and play calling. Our guys were beating their guys and we stopped ourselves. Pure stupidity.
 

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DaNucci and Prescott led offenses both scored 9 in the last two games against Philly.

Think about that for a while.
Both threw 40+ passes
Prescott threw 0 passes in practice the week before the game
DiNucci had no business even being in the game
both had a running game that was ignored.
 

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JG did the same thing against Detroit when we were up by 3 TDs and lost.

After calling 5 consecutive runs where Murray was getting 6 yards per run, he started go pass happy and Romo ended up throwing bunch of INTs (one to Barbie Carpenter) and we ended up losing.
 

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We were up 9-7 and driving the ball down their throats. Eagles up to that point had did much of nothing. I believe we were on a 9 play drive and ran the ball every play or all except one. It was 2 and medium and what is our call? A slow developing, predictable reverse to Wilson. Does Kellen Moore not know to stick with what it working? That made it 3rd and very long, settled for a very long FG. Not even close. Eagles get the ball in good field position and go down and score. And that was pretty much game for me. Such a maddening play call that made zero sense.

Even Collinsworth said had we just kept ramming the ball down their throats going north and south, they probably do not stop us. At the worst, we have a much easier FG try and extend the lead to 12-7. We needed every point we could get this game. But with how we were driving, we could have made it 16-7 and who knows what happens from there.
Actually, it was a very good and surprising call to make. I liked it. It should have worked for a huge gain had someone blocked their man at the line of scrimmage.

The problem with that play was that no one blocked DT Fletcher Cox! If my memory serves me correctly, wasn't Fletcher Cox lined up across from Zack Martin? Wasn't that Zack's man to block?
 

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Yep that was right before halftime I think. Maybe. It was such a weak call. But I don't think Philly ended up scoring on that drive, though.

Another thing they did wrong was the play calls for DiNucci. Everything should have been short and quick. One read types. He has no idea how to be comfortable in the pocket. The drive where we are up 3-0 and inside the Eagles 15, he sat in the pocket way too long and gets strip sacked and they recover. That is points off the board. You can't have a guy like that sit back and examine the field. He isn't good.
Agreed Kellen blew it with the long developing plays. The OL stinks and just collapses. :D There IS no pocket. Watching his college film he had all day...
 
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