The case for going for Lawrence

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No thanks, I’d rather have Dak. This Lawrence kid has played maybe 5 ranked teams in his life - Clemson is LOADED with talent in every spot in a very weak ACC. Dak played in the SEC and lead a far inferior Mississippi state team to #1 in the nation. Not only is Dak a far superior QB right now, I watched the guy play behind a terrible Oline in college and imo he was a better college QB than sunshine.
 

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No thanks, I’d rather have Dak. This Lawrence kid has played maybe 5 ranked teams in his life - Clemson is LOADED with talent in every spot in a very weak ACC. Dak played in the SEC and lead a far inferior Mississippi state team to #1 in the nation. Not only is Dak a far superior QB right now, I watched the guy play behind a terrible Oline in college and imo he was a better college QB than sunshine.

Dak didn’t beat a single ranked team his senior season in college, racking up yardage in blow-outs against garbage teams. He’s been a stat-padder his college career. What are you on?
 

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If they pay Dak, there will not be enough money to build a defense or any other positions that needs to be upgraded. Those stats means absolutely nothing when you figure in how they came about and the number of wins the stats translated into.
With a good draft, they don't need to spend that much on defense.
 

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FO saying they aren’t going to draft a Qb is only to protect the fragile QB they have right now on franchise tag and because they still haven’t given up on the season. If they suck, don’t believe the hype that they aren’t drafting a QB that has franchise written all over him.
What? Lol.
Newsflash: We suck.
 

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No thanks, I’d rather have Dak. This Lawrence kid has played maybe 5 ranked teams in his life - Clemson is LOADED with talent in every spot in a very weak ACC. Dak played in the SEC and lead a far inferior Mississippi state team to #1 in the nation. Not only is Dak a far superior QB right now, I watched the guy play behind a terrible Oline in college and imo he was a better college QB than sunshine.
That Mississippi State team was stout with or without Dak.
 

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With a good draft, they don't need to spend that much on defense.
Very few defensive players have any impact. To top it off, the salary cap is going to be less. You also have to sign players like LVE to their second contracts within the next year or so and they will have much less money available to sign them. Is there any evidence that paying 40 million to one player will produce Super Bowl wins? The evidence that I have seen has shown the opposite.
 

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First off, let me say that I like Dak Prescott, I think he is a very good, not great, QB, and even the Dakaters have to notice the team with and without him which is exactly my point. The team needs someone better at that position unless you believe this team's management is capable of doing something they haven't done in decades, build a team around a QB.

They haven't done it with Prescott as well as his predecessor and even admitted that, failed to build around Romo. The fact that they lucked into both of these QB's should also be considered.

There are two questions regarding Trevor Lawrence, three if you consider why he doesn't become an English actor with that name. But the main two are is he better than what the Cowboys have now and what will it take to get him away from the two teams, JAX and NYJ, that have him in their sights?

Now, we must also consider the considerable team that Swinney has built around Lawrence, just as he did Watson. That must be taken into account when considering Fields as well.

But for the sake of argument and this thread, Lawrence is a better QB now than Prescott has developed into and he has nothing but upside. He is the first QB since P. Manning to deliver on being the most highly recruited QB in his class. If you don't agree with this, then this thread doesn't make sense to you but I have watched a lot of Lawrence play the position and consider him the real deal.

The second question is a tough one because if the Cowboys do not end up with the 1st pick, trading up for it will be very expensive in draft capital. If that can even be done. JAX ends up with that and they'd have a hard time passing on Lawrence since he's played in the neighborhood and if they're in that position, we'll see the same response as we saw from the CIN fans when the season became all about Burrow.

OK, you can let me have it now but I just don't think Prescott is good enough to lift this team beyond a mid level team. They ranked #1 in offense and we're 8-8 and what did they look like this season with Prescott at the helm? Is it a risk? Absolutely, but isn't giving Prescott a 4 or 5 X 35-40M a year even a bigger risk when you consider who the team builders are?

This is not about Dak Prescott, I think there are teams he could take to the Big Dance. This is about trying to overcome what's been holding this team back for two and half decades, management.

And if you want to consider something else, this HC had one of the best QB's in the history of the NFL and the most accurate one I have ever seen and he could only get one ring and ended up canned and that team doing better without him.

McC has this rep as a QB guru but who wouldn't with those QB's? The better the QB, the better the guru.

All comes down to one simple question. Do you want more of the same or do you want to take a chance? This is about change but what needs to be changed, management, will not so what's the next best thing?
how is lawrence a better QB now than Dak? what basis? he plays in college. there are now several people out there who have expressed concern about his game. his recognition skills, etc. he has played exactly ZERO downs as a QB in NFL, so we know nothing about him...remember Ryan Leaf? second pick of the draft. he was a sure thing too.....until they play in the NFL. there has only been 3 or 4 sure things coming from college in the past 20 years or so. believe it or not one was Aikman, Manning, Luck. everybody else was flawed or was a high level of certainty projection. most have failed.
 

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Gotta love the morons on here. So they have stopped talking about how "Anybody could look as good as Dak in this offense" or how "Andy Dalton is better than Dak" and have now focused their attention on drafting.

What about this year will prove how overrated Dak Prescott when Dalton throws for 500 yards per game and puts up 40 points?
 

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Here is the case..

He’s cheap and he’s a transcendent talent.

Stop focusing on how ANYBODY could look as good as Dak has in this offense huh?

You gave up on that moronic argument so now you are off to this one?

I thought the Dallas Cowboys wouldn't miss a beat without Dak so there is NOOO WAY we would be in a position to draft a top QB this year?

What about that idiotic stance?
 

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Going for a quarterback with our first pick is alot like Madonna using Propecia under her armpits.
 

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Stop focusing on how ANYBODY could look as good as Dak has in this offense huh?

You gave up on that moronic argument so now you are off to this one?

I thought the Dallas Cowboys wouldn't miss a beat without Dak so there is NOOO WAY we would be in a position to draft a top QB this year?

What about that idiotic stance?


Listen.. You guys make up a lot of things I never said.


You’re way to proud of how well Dak loses vs how Dalton loses.

All I said was Dalton can get Dak like results and I still believe that if they can protect him he’ll do well because he has a winning record with one of the worst franchises in the league.

If Dak can get us to 8-8 I’m sure Dalton could get 6 or 7. Both suck.
 

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Actually, I wouldn't mind trading down a few spots and taking Zach Wilson.

That kid has what it takes IMO.
 

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Dak didn’t beat a single ranked team his senior season in college, racking up yardage in blow-outs against garbage teams. He’s been a stat-padder his college career. What are you on?
He had no offensive line whatsoever his senior year, you aren’t winning football games if you can’t block. I’m on facts.
 

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I didn’t read all of the post here but how exactly will we get Trevor if we don’t have the top pick?
This is premature as I don't know where they'll end up after the season and I don't know how teams in need will have the QB's ranked, the assumption is Lawrence at 1 but that could change.

A Clemson/OSU showdown in the CFP would be interesting with picks 1 and 2 playing each other but don't count out Trask making a move as he's playing in the SEC.

As far as making it happen, I don't see it. I believe him when he says he plans on signing Prescott because he's the only GM that cares about bad publicity and he got that when they didn't get a deal done and then again when Prescott got injured. Then they'll praise him for doing the right thing and then criticize him again when the team stumbles.

"I started a thread which started the world laughing,
Oh if I could have seen, the joke was on me".

I keep coming up with cockamamie plans to end run the incompetence and ineptitude of the management of this team and keep forgetting in this circus, ole PT Booger is playing the clown.
 

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I will give you 45 million reasons to draft a new franchise QB.

I'll give you 5 reasons to not draft a QB, bur rather 5 healthy offensive linemen that can play 80 games in one season.
 

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Here is the case..

He’s cheap and he’s a transcendent talent.

Lol no he isn't. There is nothing transcedent about him. He is the QB on a team that is stacked with NFL talent playing junk teams all year until the playoffs. His true freshman comes in and plays really good. Why? Because all that talent. He has all day back there to sit back and make reads. And his NFL talent players just out talent the other defenders and he makes easy passes.
 

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Listen.. You guys make up a lot of things I never said.


You’re way to proud of how well Dak loses vs how Dalton loses.

All I said was Dalton can get Dak like results and I still believe that if they can protect him he’ll do well because he has a winning record with one of the worst franchises in the league.

If Dak can get us to 8-8 I’m sure Dalton could get 6 or 7. Both suck.

Dak like results? So why are we talking about Lawrence? Isn't Lawrence going No. 1 overall...

When has Dak...in 4 years had us in contention for the No. 1 overall pick? Hell, when Zeke missed 6 games Dak didn't have us in contention for the first pick of the draft.

Why haven't Dalton been able to score more than 1 TD in two starts?
 
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